The LeBron James Thread

[OSUFan_88]

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That doesnt explain why the entire team decided in unison to not listen to Mike Brown and in the end just waive him off like he wasnt even in the arena.

It was plain as day that the Cavaliers players all were done listening to Mike Brown. Whether that started with LeBron, Shaq or someone else, we'll never know.

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It was plain as day that the Cavaliers players all were done listening to Mike Brown. Whether that started with LeBron, Shaq or someone else, we'll never know.

Thats pretty much what I was saying

[Cebby]

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I'd feel you if Charles decided to chime in on the heels of Jordan and Magic's comments. This comment was a direct reaction to Lebron calling out all of his haters, and hinting at that including members of the media and NBA alum... I think that's what Barkley took offense to. My guess is he would've kept his thoughts mostly to himself (until Kenny asked him about it in the first Heat broadcast on TNT next year anyway) if Lebron started learning to keep his mouth shut.

Even if you take it as "learning to keep his mouth shut" criticism Barkley is still tied with TO as about the last people to criticize anyone.

[rangerrick012]

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I wonder if LeBron will have MJ on that list of people for his 'mental notes'. From what I hear he was much more ticked off than his public comments even let on about this whole ordeal.

[Muzyk23]

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Posted by Sekou Smith
HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – Even when he isn’t “the story” LeBron James finds his way into the headlines these days.
Thursday’s World Basketball Festival showcase put on by USA Basketball at Radio City Music Hall somehow devolved into yet another situation by the end of the night, and he didn’t even say a word this time.
This after a day of hearing about TNT’s own Charles Barkley calling the move to unite on the same team by James and his new Miami Heat teammates Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh a “punk move.”
And with Chicago Bulls legend Scottie Pippen heading into the Hall of Fame this weekend, there have been comparisons to the games of both Pippen and James, versatile, do-it-all types that were and are capable of jaw-dropping feats on the court that few others have been or are capable of duplicating.
And now that James is teamed up with Wade, it’s like the New Millennium version of Michael Jordan and Pippen all over again …
Well, not exactly, per some other members of those storied Bulls teams.
Pippen’s one-time Bulls teammate, Dennis Rodman, doesn’t want to hear any of that, as he explained to Adam Fluck of Bulls.com:

“People talk about LeBron,” said Rodman. “You’ve got to understand, LeBron has no business even being in the same conversation with Scottie. Scottie was the epitome of the (do it all elite player). What do you want me to say? Scottie was great.”
Just as so many of his other teammates have regularly done, Rodman was only following suit for the player who garnered so much respect throughout his 17 season career and will enter basketball’s Hall of Fame Friday in Springfield, Mass.
“Scottie was supportive. Michael was like his big brother and I came in as the black sheep of the family,” Rodman said of his Chicago arrival in 1995. “I did my wild thing, but it was cool and we kept it together. Scottie was right in the middle of that team and he supported us all.”

Guess that means we can add Rodman to that list James is putting together of all of his “haters.”
He’s going to need a few extra pages to finish that list, by the way. Because the legends of the game seem to be tripping over each other to get on it.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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So do we add Rodman to the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of former/current NBA Players who have no right to critcize Lebron about LeDecision as well?

[LingeringRegime]

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I am sure LeBron is keeping tabs on all us "haters" on OS too.

That must be one monumental list. It might be easier for him to make a list of those who haven't criticized him. It would be a lot less work for him.

[Cebby]

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So do we add Rodman to the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of former/current NBA Players who have no right to critcize Lebron about LeDecision as well?

Rodman is just being silly.

[wwharton]

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Even if you take it as "learning to keep his mouth shut" criticism Barkley is still tied with TO as about the last people to criticize anyone.

I'm not making the connection there (seriously, not trying to be funny).

My point is Barkley has an opinion on it just like everybody else. But unlike the others who spoke up and people say "they have no right to spit such hypocrisy" I think Barkley was ONLY speaking about the list Lebron was putting together. Basically, if Lebron stood up in a room and said "I'll kick anybody's *** that has something else to say." Barkley stood up and said, "I'm standing right here, I think you're a punk, come kick my ***." He was calling Lebron's bluff bc we all know LBJ ain't doing jack, which is why he needs to just STFU.

So do we add Rodman to the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of former/current NBA Players who have no right to critcize Lebron about LeDecision as well?

lol... Rodman's just talking trash though, he probably couldn't care less. I think he was just giving Scottie some love since this is his time to shine.

[Jasong7777]

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So when Lebron goes into the Hall of Fame does D Wade introduce him.

[rangerrick012]

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I'm not making the connection there (seriously, not trying to be funny).

My point is Barkley has an opinion on it just like everybody else. But unlike the others who spoke up and people say "they have no right to spit such hypocrisy" I think Barkley was ONLY speaking about the list Lebron was putting together. Basically, if Lebron stood up in a room and said "I'll kick anybody's *** that has something else to say." Barkley stood up and said, "I'm standing right here, I think you're a punk, come kick my ***." He was calling Lebron's bluff bc we all know LBJ ain't doing jack, which is why he needs to just STFU.

lol... Rodman's just talking trash though, he probably couldn't care less. I think he was just giving Scottie some love since this is his time to shine.

Right and Barkley is paid to give his opinion. I still don't understand how people don't see that LeBron isn't being criticized just because he left, it's the whole way he did it and the show that went on afterwards that has made this the huge ordeal. Last I checked Barkley didn't hold a huge press conference when he asked to be traded from Philly, so in that regard I don't see why he shouldn't be qualified to give his opinion.

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So when Lebron goes into the Hall of Fame does D Wade introduce him.

His step-father, Delonte West, would be a better option.

[Scott812313]

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LeBron isn't being criticized for leaving. He isn't even being criticized for the way he left. The reason all these legends are pissed at him is simple. Never before have we seen the supposed best player in the sport, leave his franchise to join another top 3 guys team. This is the epitome of coattail riding. I have always thought Wade was better than LeBron (I know I'm in the minority here), but LeBron joining up with Wade might have proven me right. Miami will ALWAYS be Wade's team. LeBron is now a sidekick. The legendary players ( MJ, Bird, Scottie, Sir Charles Barkley) are disgusted by this lack of respect for the history of the game. Those guys helped build the league to what it is today, through rivalries and competing against each other. They didn't join up, in the prime of their careers, with another superstar, to win a ring or rings that was obviously not going to happen on their own.

[ex carrabba fan]

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“People talk about LeBron,” said Rodman. “You’ve got to understand, LeBron has no business even being in the same conversation with Scottie. Scottie was the epitome of the (do it all elite player). What do you want me to say? Scottie was great.”

Worm, STFU. Your take on this is

From ground zero, here's my take based on all Ive heard and read...

Lebron had issues with Mike Brown's decision to play Shaq and wanted to stick with Hickson, his pet project. They had several shouting matches on and off the floor, and for the first time Mike Brown played the "I'm the coach, beyotch!" stance. In his mind, Shaq needed to get up to speed if he was going to be any help against the Magic. Also, contrary to expectations, O'neal had worked hard to stay in great shape, and had been a model teammate all year long. Brown felt an obligation to the man, and on paper it was a prudent decision. On the other hand, the Cavs had been scoring alot of points with a smaller lineup, it made more sense to run against the older, slower C's, and Shaq's rust factor was significant. Either way, the rift got ugly and LeBron was heard yelling at Mike Brown to "win without him then".

Thing is though, LeBron wasn't tanking the entire games...he was sitting back to show up MB, thinking he could take over whenever he wanted. After taking the C's to the final seconds of a game 7 two years ago, the Cavs got alot better roster-wise. They also crushed the C's twice in the reg season, and almost erased a 20 point 4th quarter defecit in another game. More importantly, they had demolished the C's by thirty earlier in the series. Bronny Bron THOUGHT he had the C's in his hip pocket, lol.

There were times in both games 5 and 6 where Lebron clearly decided it was time to make things happen, but in both games his "take over" mode was frantic and sloppy. Tons of rushed bricks and turnovers. Worst, a supporting cast built specifically to play off James was shellshocked, directionless, and was losing confidence by the second. It wasn't all LeBron...Give credit to Rondo going nuts, KG being in better shape than anticipated, Andy being completely useless with back spasms, Shaq and Twan having zero chemistry since they'd never played together, and Mike Brown doing a piss poor job with rotations at just the wrong time...and you have a dominant, versatile 61-win team get slaughtered in 6.

Bottom line, there's alot of blame to go around in the situation. So much so, both the pro and anti-Bron camps have plenty of material to cling to.

I could jive with this post.

If what you're saying is true about Hickson vs. Shaq, then I'm siding with James 100% on this one.

Stats didn't lie even with O'Neal being "in shape" and the "model teammate". That's all well and good but it's clear that the Big Fella simply should not be starting nor be getting significant minutes. He's an on-court chemistry killer for most contending teams. Now with Boston, Shaq can actually be effective assuming he's a backup.

In the half court it looked as if LBJ had a 2-ton anchor around his neck whenever Shaq would be in. The game looked too rigid on offense and not artistic like the year before. Once again, the stats on that don't lie. Check em.

Hickson was the ideal compliment to a player like James, and when Hickson didn't see the floor much of the Boston series I was constantly making posts about it. Brown's inept *** decided to nail Hickson's backside to the bench.

[wheelman990]

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“People talk about LeBron,” said Rodman. “You’ve got to understand, LeBron has no business even being in the same conversation with Scottie. Scottie was the epitome of the (do it all elite player). What do you want me to say? Scottie was great.”

Worm, STFU. Your take on this is


I could jive with this post.

If what you're saying is true about Hickson vs. Shaq, then I'm siding with James 100% on this one.

Stats didn't lie even with O'Neal being "in shape" and the "model teammate". That's all well and good but it's clear that the Big Fella simply should not be starting nor be getting significant minutes. He's an on-court chemistry killer for most contending teams. Now with Boston, Shaq can actually be effective assuming he's a backup.

In the half court it looked as if LBJ had a 2-ton anchor around his neck whenever Shaq would be in. The game looked too rigid on offense and not artistic like the year before. Once again, the stats on that don't lie. Check em.

Hickson was the ideal compliment to a player like James, and when Hickson didn't see the floor much of the Boston series I was constantly making posts about it. Brown's inept *** decided to nail Hickson's backside to the bench.

Id take shaq anyday.