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  • TribeWarpath
    Rookie
    • Aug 2003
    • 89

    #5821
    Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

    Originally posted by Taur3asi3
    After reading through this monolith of a thread it seems that non-cleveland fans are most disappointed and upset because they painted LeBron to be something he clearly wasn't and isn't capable of being. Maybe LeBron was never meant to be the alpha dog of a dynasty like Jordan or Jabbar. It isn't his fault people expected him to be something he wasn't.
    When one has a tatoo that says "Chosen One" I would have to believe that person more than likely wants to be an alpha dog.
    Teams: Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Ohio State Buckeyes, Kent State Golden Flashes

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    • wheelman990
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 2233

      #5822
      Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

      Heres my feelings on the matter



      What can I say? Lebrons nobodys sweetheart

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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #5823
        Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

        The truth is LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh had been plotting combining their forces in the NBA for years. It was part of a complex master plan that was never guaranteed, but the trio's heartfelt desire for much of the past four years.


        CLEVELAND, Ohio -- During a rally for Miami Heat fans Friday night, Chris Bosh said he'd been talking with new teammates LeBron James and Dwyane Wade about the moment for months.

        It was a slip, which some -- including Bosh -- quickly noticed. Bosh's statement hinted there was a long-standing plan in place to gather in Miami. That potentially would not only be against NBA rules, but also poor taste -- considering Bosh and James were supposedly completely focused on the task at hand with teams in Toronto and Cleveland.

        Bosh quickly revised the statement and said they'd been talking about it for "days." But it was hardly correct. The truth is James, Bosh and Wade had been plotting this for years.

        That won't be comforting for Cavaliers fans who are still reeling from what many considered James' stunning departure. For those deep in the process, however, it was hardly stunning. It was part of a complex master plan that was never guaranteed, but the trio's heartfelt desire for much of the past four years.

        Now that the move has been made, the veil of secrecy is being lifted to a degree as people begin to talk. Or, in some cases, brag. The Plain Dealer talked to numerous sources to piece together a picture of how James ended up in Miami.

        It is still a somewhat fuzzy image; James and his close friends and business associates may never tell the whole story. But here are the broad strokes:
        The seeds of the massive move were planted back the summer of 2006 after Bosh, James and Wade finished up their third seasons. Established all-stars and clearly the future of the league, the three were part of a bonding effort led by USA Basketball to revamp and re-energize the national team after the disappointing 2004 bronze medal.

        The three played together for the first time that summer at the World Championships. For the first week they were sequestered without family or friends in Sapporo, Japan, in an attempt to build chemistry. But it wasn't just the players -- working as an intern for Team USA and getting to know the players was Nick Arison, the son of Heat billionaire owner Micky Arison.
        Now, not ironically, Nick Arison is a rising executive with the Heat. He was part of the team that recruited all three players this summer.

        Already close as members of the same draft class, the Team USA experience strengthened the relationship. Even before the team gathered in Las Vegas to prepare for the World Championships that summer, the three had talked at length about playing for that team. After a poor experience at the Olympics in 2004, they had to recruit each other to get the top players to try the process again.

        That same July, the co-op took on another role when all three decided to extend their contracts with their teams. They couldn't all become unrestricted free agents until 2007 anyway under the rules, so the smart play was for them to extend with the Raptors, Cavs and Heat respectively.

        But with some of the league's high-profile older stars perceived as stuck in long-term contracts with struggling teams -- Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett eventually demanded trades out of unhappy situations around that time -- the three decided to go for a shorter contract.

        Eugene Hoshiko / Associated Press
        By the time Team USA was preparing for the 2008 Olympics, sources say Chris Bosh and LeBron James had frequently shared their common desire to play together with Dwyane Wade for an NBA franchise. There were already several teams -- most notably the New York Knicks but including the Miami Heat -- gutting their rosters in order to free up salary cap money for the summer of 2010.

        After talking amongst themselves, James, Bosh and Wade decided to accept three-year extensions. It would make them all unrestricted free agents at the same time in 2010. For players on maximum contracts, becoming an unrestricted free agent after just seven years in the NBA is rare. But it would put them all in position to potentially team up that year, a fact that was not lost on them.

        In the ensuing years, four important events happened that were major contributors leading to their union in 2010.

        One was a very positive and emotional summer in 2008 in China, where the trio were part of the gold medal-winning Team USA. They proved they could play effectively together. For the most part, they checked their egos, with Wade even deciding to come off the bench.

        Second, Los Angeles-based management company Creative Artists Agency decided to get into the basketball agent business. Seeing how influential they could be in the summer of 2010, CAA bought the agencies that represented James, Bosh and Wade. Bringing them all under one roof gave CAA huge control of the market and took down any barriers the three would have with negotiations.

        Third, the recession hit and NBA owners started tightening their spending, a trend that would last for two years. The result was a bubble of salary cap space that would eventually result in giving numerous teams large blocks of cash in 2010.

        Fourth, the struggling New York Knicks launched a plan in the fall of 2008 to clear off enough cap space to sign two maximum level free agents in an effort to recruit James to New York. Though he never said so directly, James began openly flirting with the thought. Other teams, many of whom where struggling, saw the opening and hatched the same plan.

        That included the Heat, who were in the midst of a large-scale rebuilding process after a 15-win season. They had won the title in 2006, but made several trades that eventually caught up with them. With Wade already on the team, team president Pat Riley decided to begin his own cap manipulation, even if it limited what the Heat could do with Wade during two of his prime years.

        The Knicks got most of the attention for positioning themselves for James, especially when they traded away their best players for pennies on the dollar in an effort to clear the books. But Riley was just as passively aggressive in not spending, at one point last summer getting into a public battle with Wade, who was frustrated at the lack of roster additions.

        It was a risk to mess with Wade as he headed for his own free agency, but Riley had been watching and doing background research. He knew the three wanted to play together and he knew he had a glamour destination to offer, a history of success and Wade already on the team. He crunched the numbers over and over and thought he could get close to clearing three maximum salary spots -- or at least get close.

        He didn't quite get there, but close enough to pull off the major score. In addition to the weather and the city's attractions for young rich athletes, Riley knew the lack of a state income tax in Florida could help him sell it.

        According to sources, Heat President Pat Riley made sure to reassure James that his close friends would be taken care of by the franchise, in much the same manner the Cavaliers had accomodated them for the last seven years. It might have been the final factor that convinced James to leave Cleveland.
        Riley really put the plan into action last November. During a Cavs visit to Miami, Riley arranged a get together with Michael Jordan and James. Jordan, who was in town to do some Nike work with Wade, at the time did not own a majority of the Bobcats.

        During the meeting, Riley talked to James about how more modern players should pay homage to Jordan. Riley had always led this effort, retiring Jordan's No. 23 in the rafters at AmericanAirlines Arena even though Jordan -- of course -- never played in Miami.

        The Cavs knew about it and while it seemed like it could be classic tampering, they decided not to make an issue of it. The meeting -- technically -- wasn't about free agency. Only, of course it was.

        That night James and Wade staged an another strong individual battle. But the Cavs won when the Heat didn't have enough down the stretch, a common problem with Miami's roster last season. After the game, and after seeing Jordan and Riley sitting together courtside, James made an emotional statement right on the court that he was going to ditch jersey No. 23 out of respect to Jordan. In fact, he felt all players should stop wearing No. 23.
        It was controversial and got headlines. Riley didn't care so much about the statement but how his conversation obviously influenced James. Without much doubt, it gave Riley confidence that he could win James over by playing to his emotions when it came time for free agency. Riley became more dedicated than ever before to trying his grand plan of getting all three stars to South Florida with the poaching of James being the grand prize.
        That was why he was so amped up before his presentation to James in Cleveland a week ago. He packed up his seven championship rings, had his salary cap specialists create displays to show how Florida taxes could save James money and brought along Alonzo Mourning to make an emotional pitch about how the team backed him up as he recovered from a kidney transplant.
        It was also made known to James that the Heat would take care of his friends much in the same way as the Cavs. There would be special treatment at the arena, changing practice and travel schedules to allow for moneymaking late-night parties in various cities and perhaps even hiring a James associate for a high-paying position in the organization.

        This was nothing knew for Riley, he made the same accommodations for Shaquille O'Neal and, to a lesser extent, Wade in recent years.
        Riley was so focused that he paced the halls outside James' offices while waiting for James to arrive for the meeting. The meeting went so well and so long that the Heat took up some of the Los Angeles Clippers' scheduled time with James.

        But Riley may not have even needed to slam dunk the presentation. He already had a huge advantage working long before he even got to Cleveland.
        As was their plan four years earlier and was discussed more deeply in 2008, Bosh, Wade and James had been talking. Unlike Bosh or James, Wade took the step of actually recruiting free agents to his team. Riley's efforts were more successful than the Knicks, and Miami had the most salary cap space.
        Getting all three together was only really possible in Miami. Wade pushed the topic. Despite being discouraged by Commissioner David Stern and perhaps breaking tampering rules again, Wade flew with Bosh to Akron to meet at James' house in the last week of June. Still under contract with the Heat, Wade got the other two to the brink of a deal to join up.

        All the players still met with teams just to make sure they wanted Miami. Both Wade and James were interested also in Chicago, where there was a chance two of them could match up and play with rising star Derrick Rose. But Wade stayed strong to Riley's plan and kept tugging on James and Bosh.

        Though many thought James would seriously consider Knicks and Nets, part-owned by friend Jay-Z, they were never in his top two. The way it looks now, the Cavs may not have been in the top two for much of the process. James did talk with Bosh about the chance of playing in Cleveland, but Bosh resisted and James was intrigued by teaming up with his friends even more than he was attracted to staying home.

        The Bulls' chances for James were diminished for two central reasons. One was that Wade wasn't willing to go to his own hometown. The other was the Bulls made it clear that James' friends would not be given the privileges they were given in Cleveland, or the high-paying jobs.

        Chicago didn't give Jordan special treatment when he was leading them to six titles, and owner Jerry Reinsdorf wasn't about to give it to James. In addition, Rose -- who often talked to the media about his respect for James -- did not openly welcome his arrival and instead campaigned for other free agents, especially Joe Johnson. Soon, the Bulls were out.

        With the weather, his friends and South Florida's glamour pulling him to Miami and Cleveland offering just his hometown and hope for that much-coveted title, James was gone.

        Despite his comments that he went back-and-forth on the decision, it appears the Heat were always the leaders in his mind. That's what he chose, after four years of buildup, breaking Cavs fans' hearts.
        Too Old To Game Club

        Urban Meyer is lol.

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        • gallandro
          Pro
          • Jul 2003
          • 526

          #5824
          Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

          Originally posted by TribeWarpath
          http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....iamis_cou.html

          Based on this story is there really any doubt that LeBron didn't want to win a championship in Cleveland, but was more motivated on playing with his "friends"? Perhaps LeBron was afraid winning a championship in Cleveland would make it impossible for him to leave so he threw the Boston series? I'd hope not, but for anyone that watched the series it could be questioned if he gave full effort.
          The giveaway that Lebron was always going to leave was what happened at the trade deadline between Phoenix and Cleveland. The Cavs had a verbal commitment on the table to trade Ilguaskas and Hickson to the Suns for Amare'. The Suns were then going to waive Ilguaskas and the Cavs would resign him. The Cavs ownership in return were planning to extend Amare's contract... that move would have almost guaranteed the Cavs would at least reach the Finals.

          But Lebron nixed the deal... according to people in the Suns organization, Lebron expressed "concerns" about playing with Amare... so instead the Cavs were stuck signing Jamison. Had the Cavs signed Amare it would have been difficult for Lebron to suggest the Cavs weren't interested in winning, or weren't making an effort to get him the tools he needed to get a ring.

          Lebron was never going to stay in Cleveland, he was always signing with Miami... the "Decision" was a joke, and Lebron played the game to perfection.
          "Echo from the buttes, Give 'Em Hell Devils!"

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          • wheelman990
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 2233

            #5825
            Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

            Watch this video at 1.54....this could and should of been you Lebron. The people in Cleveland wont forget you turned your back on us....Just wait until you play us. I can only imagine.


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            • TribeWarpath
              Rookie
              • Aug 2003
              • 89

              #5826
              Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

              Originally posted by gallandro
              The giveaway that Lebron was always going to leave was what happened at the trade deadline between Phoenix and Cleveland. The Cavs had a verbal commitment on the table to trade Ilguaskas and Hickson to the Suns for Amare'. The Suns were then going to waive Ilguaskas and the Cavs would resign him. The Cavs ownership in return were planning to extend Amare's contract... that move would have almost guaranteed the Cavs would at least reach the Finals.

              But Lebron nixed the deal... according to people in the Suns organization, Lebron expressed "concerns" about playing with Amare... so instead the Cavs were stuck signing Jamison. Had the Cavs signed Amare it would have been difficult for Lebron to suggest the Cavs weren't interested in winning, or weren't making an effort to get him the tools he needed to get a ring.

              Lebron was never going to stay in Cleveland, he was always signing with Miami... the "Decision" was a joke, and Lebron played the game to perfection.
              Agree completely and based on the past month the Amare story makes complete sense.
              Teams: Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Ohio State Buckeyes, Kent State Golden Flashes

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              • King_B_Mack
                All Star
                • Jan 2009
                • 24450

                #5827
                Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                I knew it. Pay attention people, THIS is what the problem with all of this was. Not leaving, but putting up this big BS show and playing everybody for fools as if they ever were actually going anywhere else.

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                • str8artist
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1065

                  #5828
                  Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                  Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                  I knew it. Pay attention people, THIS is what the problem with all of this was. Not leaving, but putting up this big BS show and playing everybody for fools as if they ever were actually going anywhere else.
                  The more info that comes out just makes it even worst. If dude knew months ago and still did all this, tells a lot about his character. SMH @ bosh slipping up and telling the truth.
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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #5829
                    Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                    Originally posted by TribeWarpath
                    If he lost in the first round what would that do for his image? Despite what Gilbert says the only game I believe he quit in was Game 5. Plus the alleged elbow injury was all a sham. He obviously was using it as an excuse. By pretending to be hurting it would give him a reason to say he played poorly.
                    I don't think I ever saw him use the elbow as an excuse for not playing well, in fact the game following the elbow injury was when he played really well.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • OSUFan_88
                      Outback Jesus
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 25642

                      #5830
                      Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                      Never put it together, but LeBron saying he was going to change from #23 in Miami after Riles brought in Jordan for the game...

                      I think that was the night LeBron decided he was going to Miami. JMHO.
                      Too Old To Game Club

                      Urban Meyer is lol.

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                      • TribeWarpath
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 89

                        #5831
                        Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                        Originally posted by jmood88
                        I don't think I ever saw him use the elbow as an excuse for not playing well, in fact the game following the elbow injury was when he played really well.
                        Correct he never once used it as an excuse, but his actions created a circus. If you were to go back and watch the Celtics series right before tip-off in all of the games that there was only one days rest he would be holding his elbow and acting like he was in complete agony. Heck ESPN did an entire story on a mock twitter account regarding LeBron's elbow. In the Bulls series he even took a free throw left handed to try to sell an injury of some sort.
                        Teams: Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Ohio State Buckeyes, Kent State Golden Flashes

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                        • TribeWarpath
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 89

                          #5832
                          Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat



                          THE CURIOUS CASE OF LEBRON JAMES
                          Jul 10, 2010 -- 8:08pm

                          By: T.J. Zuppe

                          When Miami Heat forward Lebron James broke into the National Basketball Association at the ripe-old age of 18 years, he seemed to have a firm grasp of reality.

                          It was actually quite shocking how well James was able to handle the media, say the right things, and more importantly do them. James seemed humbled, well-rounded, and able to handle the pressure of being in the spotlight in his early years with the Cavaliers. However, things have surely changed.

                          In the last couple of weeks, James has decided to put the emphasis on the brand, rather than on him as a person. He has put distance between himself and the relationships he has created throughout his first seven years in Cleveland.

                          He has gone viral, something he claimed to never want to get into. Replacing the loyalty he supposedly felt for his home in Northeast Ohio, James has put more of focus on his new website, or embracing the world of social media on Twitter.

                          That is a serious contrast to last year’s offseason, where he said things like “I’ll leave the tweeting to Shaq.”

                          He then took himself to national television, where on ESPN, he broke the hearts of Clevelanders, and even more shockingly did not seem to care.

                          Instead, he stared heartlessly into a camera with a cold dead stare, and announced he was heading to South Beach to play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh, and it was all about him once again.

                          Selfishly he spoke of a family atmosphere in Miami, and how warm he felt to be welcomed in. Somehow he forgot the family he left out in the cold, and the franchise that bent over backwards to please him, that he thanked with a set of handcuffs.

                          He went on stage in Miami on a setting that looked more like WWE Monday Night Raw, and spoke to how easy it would be to win in Miami. He talked about how right it felt to be a member of the Heat.

                          Then, in an effort to shift the blame and make himself look better, he talked about conversations he had with his mother, Gloria James, and that she told him he should go play in Miami.

                          He spoke of championships, and the number they would win. He brought up old memories of winning titles in Miami, and the feelings they must have felt.

                          On the stage in Miami James said, “Me and CB (Bosh) are here to make those feelings come back.”

                          Hopefully Miami does not hold him to that, because Cleveland is still waiting on the championship he was expected to deliver.

                          The truth of the situation is this has been building up over the last couple of years. The same 18-year old kid that took the sports world by storm was not maturing with age at all.

                          In fact, he is regressing. He is getting younger and younger before our very eyes.

                          Where is the man Cleveland came to love? Cleary what is left of him has disappeared as well as his career in Cleveland. He is gone.

                          Instead, he has become a self-absorbed, prima donna, who waits for the world to serve him hand and foot. What is even more pathetic, because of his talent, everyone has no choice but to follow through.

                          He has been enabled since joining the Cavaliers, and from the top of the organization with Dan Gilbert, all the way down to the media and the fans, we have created a monster.

                          Now that he has hit South Beach, it will only get worse.

                          It is a curious case with James. What we have seen over the last seven years is a man who has become more of a child, and keeps getting acting younger. Instead of providing the hype, he has fallen and been consumed by it. Even worse, he buys it even more daily.

                          It is a bad example of what fame and fortune when combined with talent can do to an individual. Even more so in retrospect; so much of what he has done as of late is self-serving, and for his benefit, and his alone.

                          While others might have been infatuated with winning, the self-proclaimed King has become more closely tied to being a mogul. What he failed to realize is how closely they are tied together with the legacy you leave behind.

                          What exactly has that legacy become? It is yet to be determined, but it has taken a turn for the worst.

                          Why might we say such a thing? Just look at it this way; No matter how many championships the man wins in Miami, he will never be able to come home as the hero of the story.

                          If he wins three, four, five titles or more as a member of the Heat, in Cleveland, he will always be a quitter and a backstabber. He has alienated everyone around him, at the advice of a group of kids who want to be just like him, and have ridden his coattails to the top.

                          He will forever be the villain in this story.

                          More so than the decision to leave Cleveland, it was the manner in which he did so that will forever resonate in the mind of his hometown.

                          Not a single person in Cleveland can tell you some of the positives that former Browns owner Art Modell put into place, of which there were many. However, people will remember him as the man who stole smiles, laughs and good times on Sunday afternoons in Cleveland at Municipal Stadium.

                          This is yet another case where the perception trumps the reality. For James, that is a perception he will just have to live with.

                          Good thing for him, he does not seem to care.

                          Possibly someday he will grow up and realize the mistake that he has made in his actions. The real question is, when that happens, will he be mature enough to admit it?
                          Teams: Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Indians, Ohio State Buckeyes, Kent State Golden Flashes

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                          • jmood88
                            Sean Payton: Retribution
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 34639

                            #5833
                            Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                            Originally posted by TribeWarpath
                            Correct he never once used it as an excuse, but his actions created a circus. If you were to go back and watch the Celtics series right before tip-off in all of the games that there was only one days rest he would be holding his elbow and acting like he was in complete agony. Heck ESPN did an entire story on a mock twitter account regarding LeBron's elbow. In the Bulls series he even took a free throw left handed to try to sell an injury of some sort.
                            Yeah it was hyped for days but had no effect on how he played and wasn't used as an excuse, like you said.
                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • LingeringRegime
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 17089

                              #5834
                              Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                              The question is what will be done about it? Nothing. I posted once this deal went down it was planned out. It makes it even worse that it has been confirmed straight from the horse's mouth. Do you think Stern is going to bring the hammer down? Hell to the no.

                              This is BIG business. And Stern is the happiest man on planet earth right now.

                              EDIT: I just remembered that LeBron had a dream the night before, so these reports of the prior intentions can't be true. Seriously, perhaps this explains the "Boston Shutdown." To provide an avenue (excuse) to get the hell out of Cleveland. And to get to the sunny sands of South Beach.
                              Last edited by LingeringRegime; 07-10-2010, 09:01 PM.

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                              • NovaStar
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 3561

                                #5835
                                Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                First things first, all this talk about "you think Jordan wouldn't team up with Magic if he had the chance" kill that noise...

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                                If you think THAT guy didn't want to beat the breaks off the people that could be called GREAT players like him, you have a lot of studying to do in order to continue your hoops fandom.

                                That said you don't have to get bent out of shape with those of us that have a problem with how this thing went down. I'm a basketball fan through and through, I was born in June of '84 and have been watching for as long as I can remember. I love the sport, love watching, love playing and I love the NBA more than any league in the world. One of the things about all of this that bothers me is that this kind of thing just breeds copycats. When the Lakers made the move to get Gasol it changed the league and it sent every team out West and even in the East out there scrambling for big men to adapt to the change that was made to the Lakers. This thing down the line is gonna keep teams making moves and doing what they can (whether it's an overreaction or not) to keep up. I don't wanna see super teams competeing against each other, I wanna see the best players in the world going at each other every night to determine who deserves to be champion, not secretly conspiring to play together to beat another of the alpha dogs in the league and make all the tax free money they can and disguise it as a challenge.

                                You have the right to not feel the same way, you have the right to be fine with everything that has happened. But don't come here and tell us that we don't have a right to be upset with what's happening with the league right now or that we're somehow wrong for thinking that LeBron and Wade are wrong for how they've handled this situation. Teams having to find out his decision like every other person in the world? Wade using his kids and stringing along the Bulls and fans in Chicago when he had absolutely NO intention of ever leaving Miami? Bosh, don't even get me started on him basically just trying to create the Chris Bosh brand as opposed to expanding it like the other two were doing for their brands. This whole thing has been a farce and if I or anyone else has a problem with it, it's our right to have that opinion.
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                                Like Honor, one on one fists fights, virtous woman, and righteous men, an NBA player like Jordan, is hard to find these days (Kobe is the closest). Great post!!! Like I said before, Lebron James turned coward and ran from the fight. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, Lebron didn't have the neck strength for it.

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