The LeBron James Thread

**rangerrick012** · 11-20-2010, 11:41 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by King_B_Mack

Bron could've gotten Amar'e or Bosh in Cleveland, he chose not to. Instead he was at the airport looking to recruit Derek Fisher to the Heat. I think it's time to give the 'he had no help in Cleveland' excuse a rest.

Yeah, I do find it funny that he did more in 1 week in Miami to get guys there, than he did in 7 years in Cleveland.

**ex carrabba fan** · 11-20-2010, 12:30 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Could have gotten Amare or Bosh?

Sure guys.

**King_B_Mack** · 11-20-2010, 12:58 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by ex carrabba fan

Could have gotten Amare or Bosh?

Sure guys.

The choice for available players to pursue through trade for the playoff push was Amar'e or Jamison. They ended up with Jamison cause it's what LeBron wanted. They could've gotten Bosh in the summer but the mWo was formed a few years ago and that's what they're minds were made up on doing. If they weren't trying to take the easy way out and party it up in Miami, Bosh would have took his lanky behind to Cleveland and they could have at least gotten to the Finals. They could have signed for less, taking one to three year deals with the Cavs and if it didn't work out put they're super group together in Miami with Wade in three years. The Bulls put together they're team signing guys to two and three year deals so that in three years when Wade and crew can opt out of their deals, they can make another run at one of them, Miami could've done the same.

**JerseySuave4** · 11-20-2010, 01:06 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by King_B_Mack

Bron could've gotten Amar'e or Bosh in Cleveland, he chose not to. Instead he was at the airport looking to recruit Derek Fisher to the Heat. I think it's time to give the 'he had no help in Cleveland' excuse a rest.

If you're talking about last year at the deadline the 2 guys they were discussing was Amare & Jamison as the guys. Perhaps Toronto would have traded Bosh to Cleveland just to get something but i doubt that would have changed what happened in the playoffs. And even so, once last year was over those guys were not resigning in Cleveland. Nobody good signs with Cleveland as a free agent because nobody wants to live in Cleveland.

**da ThRONe** · 11-20-2010, 01:52 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by Boltman

I seriously sit here and laugh when I read some of the stuff that gets written on here. My opinion is this, I don't care who the "best" player in the league is. That is akin to parents arguing who's better at little league baseball little Johnny or little Timmy.

I always thought a more relevant argument or conversation would be, who do you prefer more as your superstar of choice?

There really is no "best player" in the game title now is there? Do they hand out an MVP award? Yes they do, and even that award gets argued amongst people. Is it really "Most Valuable Player" or the best player in the league?

I like what Gibbz said here about Lebron "Would I ever prefer to have him on my team over Bryant? Hell. No."

I feel that way not because he is the "best" just because he is my superstar of choice, Lebron may be for others. Meh, I can live with that.

This is the same as saying who is better. Because whoever you think is better or the best would be the player you wanted on your team. I rather LeBron than Kobe.

**BlueNGold** · 11-20-2010, 03:26 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Since when could Cleveland get Bosh? Bosh said himself he didn't want to play in Cleveland.

Amar'e on the other hand was a much realer possibility, but either from the Phoenix side or Cleveland side, something didn't work out. Mainly when it came to JJ Hickson.

**NYJets** · 11-20-2010, 03:32 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Yea, Bosh was never going to Cleveland. If Lebron stayed, he would have just gone to Miami with Wade.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 11-20-2010, 03:51 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Some of ya'll do know that you're just repeating the same things you've already said in this thread, right LOL.

Better off just quote what you originally said and just put "This" under the post lol.

Anyways, it's obvious that the whole "help" issue falls on both parties(Lebron and Cavs)and can't really place majority blame on one or the other.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 11-20-2010, 03:53 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by da ThRONe

This is the same as saying who is better. Because whoever you think is better or the best would be the player you wanted on your team. I rather LeBron than Kobe.

Not necessarily true.

**ex carrabba fan** · 11-20-2010, 06:01 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by King_B_Mack

The choice for available players to pursue through trade for the playoff push was Amar'e or Jamison. They ended up with Jamison cause it's what LeBron wanted. They could've gotten Bosh in the summer but the mWo was formed a few years ago and that's what they're minds were made up on doing. If they weren't trying to take the easy way out and party it up in Miami, Bosh would have took his lanky behind to Cleveland and they could have at least gotten to the Finals. They could have signed for less, taking one to three year deals with the Cavs and if it didn't work out put they're super group together in Miami with Wade in three years. The Bulls put together they're team signing guys to two and three year deals so that in three years when Wade and crew can opt out of their deals, they can make another run at one of them, Miami could've done the same.

There are zero ways. count em, zero ways anyone can prove that Cleveland had the option of acquiring Amare. None.

You failed to bring any evidence that Amare was an option, and will continue to do so on this specific topic because there is no proof out there.

**WTF** · 11-20-2010, 06:16 PM

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And you have failed to prove that he wasn't an option. You two drop your bickering. You aren't "in the know" just like he isn't. There were speculations that there was a deal on the table, and there are naysayers as well. Drop the back and forth.

**King_B_Mack** · 11-20-2010, 06:25 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by ex carrabba fan

There are zero ways. count em, zero ways anyone can prove that Cleveland had the option of acquiring Amare. None.

You failed to bring any evidence that Amare was an option, and will continue to do so on this specific topic because there is no proof out there.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....-way_trad.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- It was going to take a special opportunity to get the Cavaliers to trade franchise pillar Zydrunas Ilgauskas.

That chance came Wednesday amid a wild day of negotiations for the team's front office as they attempted to upgrade their roster ahead of Thursday's trade deadline. With two deals on the table, one for the Phoenix Suns' Amar'e Stoudemire and one for the Washington Wizards' Antawn Jamison, the Cavs had to make a decision.
When the dust had settled, the Cavs took Jamison in a three-team trade that also involved the Los Angeles Clippers.

Brian Windhorst

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/02/17/cavaliers.trades/index.html

LeBron James, Amar'e Stoudemire waiting like everyone else on Cavaliers-Suns proposed trade

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/02/lebron_james_amare_stoudemire.html

LeBron James and Amar'e Stoudemire purposely were avoiding specifics late Sunday night, but there's little doubt they are already thinking about playing with one another.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/02/13/amare-stoudemire-to-cleveland/

I will say that saying they didn't acquire him because of what Bron wanted is wrong, I screwed up on that one. However Bron's mum attitude and not letting Cleveland in on his thinking or what he was going to do pretty much forced every move that they made good or bad cause they were trying to appease him not knowing exactly what he was looking for out of them.

**King_B_Mack** · 11-20-2010, 06:26 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by WTF

And you have failed to prove that he wasn't an option. You two drop your bickering. You aren't "in the know" just like he isn't. There were speculations that there was a deal on the table, and there are naysayers as well. Drop the back and forth.

Was posting when you put this, consider it dropped.

**ex carrabba fan** · 11-20-2010, 06:37 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by WTF

And you have failed to prove that he wasn't an option. You two drop your bickering. You aren't "in the know" just like he isn't. There were speculations that there was a deal on the table, and there are naysayers as well. Drop the back and forth.

There is no back and forth or bickering, there is no proof of any trade on the table.

As far as me not providing proof that Amare wasn't an option, how is that possible if Cleveland never had the chance to get him? That makes no sense

**JerseySuave4** · 11-20-2010, 08:33 PM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

i'm lost, why are we even talking about whether they could have gotten Amare? Its not like getting him would have changed things. Amare wasnt resigning with Cleveland, no free agents were signing with Cleveland because no one wants to go play & live in Cleveland, and the Cavs still wouldnt have beaten Boston in the playoffs because Boston was the better team.

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