The LeBron James Thread

[rangerrick012]

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i'm lost, why are we even talking about whether they could have gotten Amare? Its not like getting him would have changed things. Amare wasnt resigning with Cleveland, no free agents were signing with Cleveland because no one wants to go play & live in Cleveland, and the Cavs still wouldnt have beaten Boston in the playoffs because Boston was the better team.

You really don't think Amare would have helped them beat Boston? That and the King not quitting in game 5? Right...

[OSUFan_88]

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i'm lost, why are we even talking about whether they could have gotten Amare? Its not like getting him would have changed things. Amare wasnt resigning with Cleveland, no free agents were signing with Cleveland because no one wants to go play & live in Cleveland, and the Cavs still wouldnt have beaten Boston in the playoffs because Boston was the better team.

That's a large pile of crap *well, at least the free agents part.*

As for the Cavs not beating Boston...well...I guess it depends. Does LeQuit still quit?

[JerseySuave4]

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That's a large pile of crap *well, at least the free agents part.*

As for the Cavs not beating Boston...well...I guess it depends. Does LeQuit still quit?

its a pile of crap? really? considering guys that Cleveland has got said they didnt enjoy living in Cleveland. Plus, name me the last big free agent that signed with the Cavs? Go ahead... i'll wait.

[PrettyT11]

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its a pile of crap? really? considering guys that Cleveland has got said they didnt enjoy living in Cleveland. Plus, name me the last big free agent that signed with the Cavs? Go ahead... i'll wait.

There isn't one. Larry Hughes is the biggest free agent signing they have ever had. That says all you need to know.

[King_B_Mack]

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its a pile of crap? really? considering guys that Cleveland has got said they didnt enjoy living in Cleveland. Plus, name me the last big free agent that signed with the Cavs? Go ahead... i'll wait.

That's really not fair to say though. Before Bosh and Bron who was the last big name free agent to sign with Miami? Before Boozer the last big name guy to sign with the Bulls? Miami and Chicago are crappy places to live?

I brought up the whole Amar'e thing because the conversation was starting to dip back into the whole LeBron would have never been able to win in Cleveland cause he didn't have help territory and how he's in Miami because he wants to win. If he wanted to win he'd have gotten Bosh there in Cleveland with him or he'd have been actively recruiting big name people to the team like he did his first week in Miami. Bron is the best player in the league on a team that was winning 55+ games a year I find it hard to believe if he made his intentions on staying or leaving Cleveland clear to guys they'd still not go to Cleveland to play with him because it's Cleveland.

[OSUFan_88]

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considering guys that Cleveland has got said they didnt enjoy living in Cleveland.

Who said that?

As for big FA, obviously they weren't coming to Cleveland and LeBron did nothing to help that. The Cavaliers would have had Ariza if LeBron would have committed to them.

[PrettyT11]

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I brought up the whole Amar'e thing because the conversation was starting to dip back into the whole LeBron would have never been able to win in Cleveland cause he didn't have help territory and how he's in Miami because he wants to win. If he wanted to win he'd have gotten Bosh there in Cleveland with him or he'd have been actively recruiting big name people to the team like he did his first week in Miami. Bron is the best player in the league on a team that was winning 55+ games a year I find it hard to believe if he made his intentions on staying or leaving Cleveland clear to guys they'd still not go to Cleveland to play with him because it's Cleveland.

Every report out there on the situation was saying that Bosh was telling LeBron he wanted no part of Cleveland though. It didn't matter what LeBron was trying to say or going to say Bosh wasn't going to Cleveland. Bosh wanted the big city and bright lights.

[King_B_Mack]

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Every report out there on the situation was saying that Bosh was telling LeBron he wanted no part of Cleveland though. It didn't matter what LeBron was trying to say or going to say Bosh wasn't going to Cleveland. Bosh wanted the big city and bright lights.

That's the thing, maybe it's just me, but there is no doubt in my mind that neither one of them were passing up the chance to team up together in Miami. That was a little show for the sources or even Bron's people putting that BS out there to make it seem like Bron was giving Cleveland every chance to get him back and throw people off the scent. I find it hard to believe that Bron didn't even talk to the Cavs organization after they got bounced by the C's the whole summer but he's out trying to recruit for them? Can't buy it man, sorry.

[PrettyT11]

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That's the thing, maybe it's just me, but there is no doubt in my mind that neither one of them were passing up the chance to team up together in Miami. That was a little show for the sources or even Bron's people putting that BS out there to make it seem like Bron was giving Cleveland every chance to get him back and throw people off the scent. I find it hard to believe that Bron didn't even talk to the Cavs organization after they got bounced by the C's the whole summer but he's out trying to recruit for them? Can't buy it man, sorry.

Oh I'm not taking up for anybody involved or anything like that. I stayed away from this thread throughout the thing and afterwards. I thought the whole thing was a joke. Who knows what was true and what wasn't in any of those reports. I just don't believe anything at all would have got Bosh to Cleveland. You could tell by the way the whole thing was going down that Bosh was loving the attention and was wanting some spotlight.

[HMcCoy]

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Every report out there on the situation was saying that Bosh was telling LeBron he wanted no part of Cleveland though. It didn't matter what LeBron was trying to say or going to say Bosh wasn't going to Cleveland. Bosh wanted the big city and bright lights.

Every report? LMAO. When Bosh guest hosted Mike and Mike, Greenburg asked him about joining James in CLE, he specifically said that he and LeBron honestly never talked about it, and if a player like James asked him, he'd consider it.

BTW, here are the list of huge FA's that have left their franchises to sign on with "destination city" teams NY, MIA, CHI, and LA in the LeBron era:

2004
NY: Jamison Brewer, Bruno Sundov
MIA: Mike Doleac, Damon Jones, Wes Person, Christian Laettner
CHI: Andres Nocioni
LAL: Vlade Divac, Tony Bobbitt
LAC: Mama N'Diaye, Q. Ross, Rebraca, Mikki Moore, Rick Brunson

CLE: Tractor Traylor, Scott Williams, Lucious Harris

2005
NY: The Big Squadoosh. None.
MIA: Nada
CHI: Malik Allen
LAL: Aaron McKie
LAC: Sam Cassell, Cuttino Mobley

CLE: Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones

2006
NY: Jared Jeffries
MIA: Nada. Again. So sunny tho, lol.
CHI: Big Ben
LAL: Radmonovich, Shammond Williams
LAC: Tim Thomas

CLE: David Wesley

2007
NY: Nan
MIA: Alex Johnson, Penny
CHI: Zilch
LAL: D Fish, Coby Karl
LAC: Brevin Knight

CLE: None

2008
NY: Chris Duhon
MIA: James Jones, Diawara, Magloire, Bobby Jones, Shawn Livingston
CHI: ...
LAL: Josh Powell
LAC: Baron, Camby, Ricky Davis, Steve Novak

CLE: Lorenzen Wright, Tarrance Kinsey

2009
NY: Jonathan Bender
MIA: Arroyo, Rafer, Kenny Hasbrouk
CHI: Pargo
LAL: Ron Ron, Gaffney
LAC: Jameson Curry, Brian Skinner

CLE: Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, Leon Powe, Z

Now please point out to me, if someone would, just how in the **** you come up with "derrr...nobody wants to sign in Cleveland, hur hur" BS? How many prime, cornerstone FA's have gone to these OMG it's so cool here cities over the last 6 years? How many years has CLE been thoroughly spanked in FA before Bron left? Some of those FA hauls were...better!? Even with NY and MIA penny-pinching for a few years doesn't explain it, as they still must have been able to bring in good players on the cheap, right? Right? It's Miami! Right?

Wrong, lol.

Stop with the stupidity. Players go where the money is first, and where they think they can flourish second. Having a lavish environment to floss in is icing.

[PrettyT11]

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All the reports they was giving on the situation was saying Bosh didn't want to go to Cleveland. I really could give a damn either way. All you had to do was read my next post after the one you quoted to see that I said who knows what was true and what wasn't. Hell do you ever stop to think maybe some of these guys including the players themselves are lying?? I don't know what the hell your lil list was suppose to mean but I commented on nothing like that. I could tear that so called theory with that list to shreds but I won't waste my damn time. Again I could really give damn about any of it. Nobody on this forum knows what was really going behind the scenes and what was the truth or not. All we know is the end result that they all ended up in Miami.

[BlueNGold]

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lol lebron ruined his career!

Lawl! Good one! Thanks for elaborating!

[boomhauertjs]

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http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-101123/daily-dime

LeBron's not having any fun. A bunch of his numbers are career lows or lowest since his rookie year. He shared the court with this lineup: Eddie House, James Jones, Jamaal Magloire and Juwan Howard.

Missing Cleveland yet?

[Jasong7777]

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Judging from those names, he had more "talent" in Cleveland.

[boomhauertjs]

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Every report out there on the situation was saying that Bosh was telling LeBron he wanted no part of Cleveland though. It didn't matter what LeBron was trying to say or going to say Bosh wasn't going to Cleveland. Bosh wanted the big city and bright lights.

So everyone could see what a fraud he is?