The LeBron James Thread

[ThreeKing]

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If I were Lebron though I can't see myself making money for Dan Gilbert and so many Cleveland fans that turned on ME, burned MY jerseys, and even said they wouldn't want me back.

Stop it, LeBron brought that upon himself. You knew fans were going to react that way. Not saying it's right, but it's not really hate on their part, more disappointment that their prospects of winning a championship instantly went out the window.

Can some of you stop pretending that 'The Decision' wasn't that big of a deal?? Put yourself in their shoes just for a minute.

[d11king]

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Stop it, LeBron brought that upon himself. You knew fans were going to react that way. Not saying it's right, but it's not really hate on their part, more disappointment that their prospects of winning a championship instantly went out the window.

Can some of you stop pretending that 'The Decision' wasn't that big of a deal?? Put yourself in their shoes just for a minute.

If people were so irate about the Decision, they wouldn't have tuned into the show IMO. This isn't some nobody cares who Jodie Meeks signs with, this was LeBron James we were talking about. What bigger name could you possibly think of be in that situation within the past 20 years? 9.95 million people tuned into the show. This article says it was the third most watched program of that year.... Behind the Super Bowl (of course) and some icarly episode lmao. Had he said he was going back to Cleveland, this would be no issue.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/642719

[ThreeKing]

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If people were so irate about the Decision, they wouldn't have tuned into the show IMO. This isn't some nobody cares who Jodie Meeks signs with, this was LeBron James we were talking about. What bigger name could you possibly think of be in that situation within the past 20 years? 9.95 million people tuned into the show. This article says it was the third most watched program of that year.... Behind the Super Bowl (of course) and some icarly episode lmao. Had he said he was going back to Cleveland, this would be no issue.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/642719

That's not the point.

LeBron KNEW he wasn't going to go back to Cleveland. Everyone knew it the second he ripped off his jersey after Game 6 in Boston.

He should've ousted them from the start without stringing them along and he STILL could've had 'The Decision'.

[d11king]

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That's not the point.

LeBron KNEW he wasn't going to go back to Cleveland. Everyone knew it the second he ripped off his jersey after Game 6 in Boston.

He should've ousted them from the start without stringing them along and he STILL could've had 'The Decision'.

Oh that I definitely agree with, I too thought that when I saw the jersey come off (such a drama queen lol). In his mind, I wonder if he thought telling them would've had the information leaked, thus ruining the point of the show. If that might've been the case than that's just weird thinking but I know I personally wouldn't have had that same immediate reaction when hearing his decision if I would've saw on twitter, LeBron informs Cleveland he's not going back.

[WTF]

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That's not the point.

LeBron KNEW he wasn't going to go back to Cleveland. Everyone knew it the second he ripped off his jersey after Game 6 in Boston.

He should've ousted them from the start without stringing them along and he STILL could've had 'The Decision'.

That game is the reason I stopped being a Cavs fan after a great number of years. Killed me to see a team, not just Lebron quit. My wife, who is as ignorant as they come in regards to the game of basketball, was disgusted with their effort that game.

He knew he was gone. He didn't need to rub it in the face of the fans that supported them from Day 1, and praised him like he was the second coming.

[The 24th Letter]

The LeBron James Thread

........never mind

[King_B_Mack]

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King, twisting the words is EXACTLY what you're doing here, lol.

I know I'd act very differently to someone saying to me "This is hard but if you've got the guts you'll stick with it." and someone saying "If you don't do this you are gutless."

It's the same kind of reach with his "coward" comment. You're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill here.

Also, I don't get the need to try to put accountability on how OTHER people feel. You say you don't care about Gilbert or Riley's words here so you can't possibly understand the people that do care about one or the other. Considering that, how do you know they'd have the same feeling about both? You're not looking at the situation the same as they are (proven by it effecting you differently) so you have no idea what that trigger was that had them react how they did. Hell, some people jumped on Gilbert bc his letter was in Comic Sans.

I don't really see that. Tossing a "this is hard" in front of a statement like that doesn't really make it much better in my eyes. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

It's just funny to me that four years later we're still getting people making a big deal out of that letter as if Dan Gilbert dropped an N-bomb on LeBron and when we had this discussion a few weeks ago the fact that he was calling LeBron cowardly in it was cited as a specific reason why the letter was so bad and now here we are with this and nothing. I can drop it because it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but that's just funny to me.

[ProfessaPackMan]

The LeBron James Thread

"The mystique of the amazing Pat Riley"

Lol come on now

[BringTheHeat]

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Riles saying the great teams lose and have to fight through it is nowhere in the same league as what that clown Gilbert said. His childish response to LeBron dumping his sorry management and leaving for Miami is pathetic.

Just for reference..here it is.

Spoiler

Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;

As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.

This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.

Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.

The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.

There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.

You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.

You have given so much and deserve so much more.

In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER 'KING' WINS ONE"

You can take it to the bank.

If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.

Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become.

But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio.

The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.

Just watch.

Sleep well, Cleveland.

Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day....

I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:

DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue....

Dan Gilbert

Majority Owner

Cleveland Cavaliers

[King_B_Mack]

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Did you guys see Windhorst saying this morning that Riley let out that LeBron's wife is expecting when LeBron was trying to keep that under wraps right now? Pretty sure Riley didn't do it on purpose, but does anybody think that might affect LeBron's decision?

[cavsfan2]

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Riles saying the great teams lose and have to fight through it is nowhere in the same league as what that clown Gilbert said. His childish response to LeBron dumping his sorry management and leaving for Miami is pathetic.

Just for reference..here it is.

Letter isnt nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It was stupid, but you would think he was ranting against the Emancipation Proclamation the way some people talk about it

[wwharton]

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I don't really see that. Tossing a "this is hard" in front of a statement like that doesn't really make it much better in my eyes. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

It's just funny to me that four years later we're still getting people making a big deal out of that letter as if Dan Gilbert dropped an N-bomb on LeBron and when we had this discussion a few weeks ago the fact that he was calling LeBron cowardly in it was cited as a specific reason why the letter was so bad and now here we are with this and nothing. I can drop it because it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but that's just funny to me.

I'm not defending anyone who hammered Gilbert for the letter. Like you, I'm ignorant to the reason they had such strong reaction to it one way or the other. Personally I understood his emotion, thought it was unprofessional if not slightly predictable (considering what we know of him) and took the whole thing as kind of funny.

My point to you is that, like me, you can't know what triggered any of these people to react the way they did to the letter... because you didn't react that way. It'd be wrong to assume that they all did bc he said "coward" so now since Riley said "coward" they should all still be up in arms. That doesn't make sense. If that's how you feel personally, that's cool, express it, some may agree, some may not. But you don't... you said you don't care. How can you speak for other people?

[wwharton]

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Letter isnt nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It was stupid, but you would think he was ranting against the Emancipation Proclamation the way some people talk about it

It wasn't that bad... which makes the comparison between it and what Riley said that much worse imo. I think there's a reason not many batted an eye at what Riley said. There was nothing there unless you're really searching for it.

[The 24th Letter]

The LeBron James Thread

Letter isnt nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It was stupid, but you would think he was ranting against the Emancipation Proclamation the way some people talk about it

That's the thing about these "some people said this back then" arguments...it's not like we're directly referencing any one, or anyone is being quoted...so it takes on a (usually exaggerated) life of it's own....

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Letter isnt nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. It was stupid, but you would think he was ranting against the Emancipation Proclamation the way some people talk about it

This is what happens when time passes by.

Because when that letter came out, you had people applauding Gilbert for writing it, even if it did sound silly.