Chris Bosh is not a superstar

[dsallupinyaarea]

I'm sorry if this has been posted in another thread.

But can we please stop with the Chris Bosh is a superstar garbage. 7 years and 11 career playoff games. Guy is 6'10" and doesn't block shots or play defense. He has never played in a big game in his life. I couldn't but think during the heat celebration (I love celebrations before any titles are won) why is Chris Bosh up there.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Would read again

[ffaacc03]

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I think he is ... what he is not, on the other hand, is a franchise type player.

As of now, among all PF superstars/stars he is within the top best D (KG-Duncan-him-Amare-Nowitsky-Boozer-Lee) and he is also within the top best O. He has multiple all star appareances and he is young enough to improve upon his already stellar game. As a reference, he did more than what P. Gasol ever did in MEM (before joining a contender) ... just wait and watch him on this new contender team.

He is not on the level of Wade and LBJ but he is a top player ... him being the third most looked player in this FA wasnt a coincidence.

[Mo_Magic]

Re: Chris Bosh is not a superstar

I think he is ... what he is not, on the other hand, is a franchise type player.

As of now, among all PF superstars/stars he is within the top best D (KG-Duncan-him-Amare-Nowitsky-Boozer-Lee) and he is also within the top best O. He has multiple all star appareances and he is young enough to improve upon his already stellar game. As a reference, he did more than what P. Gasol ever did in MEM (before joining a contender) ... just wait and watch him on this new contender team.

He is not on the level of Wade and LBJ but he is a top player ... him being the third most looked player in this FA wasnt a coincidence.

I would beg to differ, sir, especially seeing as even Jazz and Maverick fans will tell you Nowitzki is an average defender and Boozer and Lee are two of the worst starting defensive PF's in the league(Boozer being one of the worst in the league period).

Bosh's D is nowhere near the level of Duncan or Garnetts... or anyone good for that matter, in my opinion.

His offense is rock solid, but he's not as good as Amare, Dirk, or Gasol from pretty much anywhere on the court(shooting the 16-23 footer is the only place he's comparable and they're all better then him at that, even) and they all have way better games with their backs to the basket.

Chris Bosh is FOOLS gold... I'm calling it.

When the Heat need someone to show up besides James or/and Wade, Bosh will be the person who needs to... and against the top tier teams, he won't.

[KyotoCarl]

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I have to kinda agree. Bosh has not really achieved anything and he's always played on a mediocre team. I've seen guys average 20+ ppg on bad teams and when they get to play for a good team they average 10- points.

Scoring a bunch of points on a bad team is worth much less than scoring more points on a good team.

Having said that, I think he's a good player and I'm not bashing him, but I don't think he deserves a superstar title. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make an all-star team during the years he will be playing for the Heat.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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Like Kenny Smith said, "Guys who score a lot of points for bad teams are like looters in a riot"

I'm sorry but a superstar PF should be able to drag a team to the playoffs in a league where over 50% of the league makes the playoffs.

[Taur3asi3]

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Is Amar'e a superstar? Would Toronto have done any better with Amar'e than Bosh? What about Phoenix with Bosh instead of Amar'e?

[dsallupinyaarea]

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No Amare isn't a superstar. He dropped 20 and 9 while playing with Steve Nash. All while playing the worst pick and roll defense imaginable and not making any teammates better. Never developing the post-game he so desperately needed to take himself to the next level.

Durant, Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Dwight, Carmelo.

Those are the superstars in the NBA right now. Those are the guys who, as you’re number 1 option, will always have a decent roster in contention. I even hesitate to put Dwight on that list because he allowed himself to be shut down by one on one defense in the ECF. There is a tier of players just about ready to break through (cp3, deron Williams, rajon rondo, I’m sure I’m forgetting somebody). And then there are guys like Amare, Bosh, Boozer, Jefferson, Gasol. If these guys are your 2nd option then you're in really good shape, but if they are you're number one then you're picking in the lottery. I call those guys All-Stars. That last line I took from one of Bill Simmons sports articles.<o></o>

[BiggD]

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Like Kenny Smith said, "Guys who score a lot of points for bad teams are like looters in a riot"

I'm sorry but a superstar PF should be able to drag a team to the playoffs in a league where over 50% of the league makes the playoffs.

Totally agree. I'm having the same arguement with some friends about Monta Ellis.. scoring 25+ PPG on a losing team doesn't make you a franchise superstar

[MarvellousOne]

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No Amare isn't a superstar. He dropped 20 and 9 while playing with Steve Nash. All while playing the worst pick and roll defense imaginable and not making any teammates better. Never developing the post-game he so desperately needed to take himself to the next level.

Durant, Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Dwight, Carmelo.

Those are the superstars in the NBA right now. Those are the guys who, as you’re number 1 option, will always have a decent roster in contention. I even hesitate to put Dwight on that list because he allowed himself to be shut down by one on one defense in the ECF. There is a tier of players just about ready to break through (cp3, deron Williams, rajon rondo, I’m sure I’m forgetting somebody). And then there are guys like Amare, Bosh, Boozer, Jefferson, Gasol. If these guys are your 2nd option then you're in really good shape, but if they are you're number one then you're picking in the lottery. I call those guys All-Stars. That last line I took from one of Bill Simmons sports articles.<o></o>

I would consider D.Howard a Superstar himself, even though he did see some bad game in the ECF you can't forget he also had some remarkable games in the ECF also come to think about it, Boston really only shut him down in 2 games the whole series, he dropped 30+ twice and 20+twice and with D.Howard he isn't always going to Drop 20+ PPG every night nor does he get those type of touches like what shaq was getting in his days, but he his a monster defensively and a beast on the boards, so I would add him to that superstar list also.

[2010gunnabethe4ring]

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I would consider a double double average a superstar. PF's and C's dont carry teams into the playoffs, their the accessory guy. That doesnt mean they cant be superstars, just generaly speaking these are not the guys that carry their teams.

[Jukeman]

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A top 5 player at your position doesnt make you a "superstar" a top 5 player in the league (even top 10) does...

[Admiral50]

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Just popped in to say I agree with pretty much everything the original post says.

[Vince]

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Bosh's mid range game is better than Gasol's and Amar'e.

[dsallupinyaarea]

Re: Chris Bosh is not a superstar

I would consider a double double average a superstar. PF's and C's dont carry teams into the playoffs, their the accessory guy. That doesnt mean they cant be superstars, just generaly speaking these are not the guys that carry their teams.

I'd have to respectfully disagree. A superstar is supposed to embody more than just statistics. You can't be a superstar and an accessory. Those two things are mutually exclusive.