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  • bigfnjoe96
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
    • 11410

    #2476
    Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

    Chris Sheridan is also reporting the Knicks got a TPE from Minnesota as part of the deal... Donnie is an assassin if this true...



    We ain't done dealing yet

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    • BATMON
      Banned
      • Oct 2010
      • 1445

      #2477
      Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

      Melo is a more than capable of setting up/scoring in the low post on the offensive end, if D'Antoni chooses to play him at the 4 for short stretches.

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      • Giants4Natic
        Banned
        • Oct 2010
        • 2475

        #2478
        Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

        Chris Sheridan just said on ESPN Radio in NYC that the Knicks also got a Trade Exception from Minny for Curry...Huge deal


        Traded Player Exception: If a team trades away a player with a higher salary than the player they acquire in return (we'll call this initial deal "Trade #1"), they receive what is called a Traded Player Exception, also known colloquially as a "Trade Exception". Teams with a trade exception have up to a year in which they can acquire more salary in other trades (Trade #2, #3, etc.) than they send away, as long as the gulf in salaries for Trade #2, #3, etc. are less than or equal to the difference in salary for Trade #1. This exception is particularly useful when teams trade draft picks straight-up for a player; since draft picks have no salary value, often the only way to get salaries to match is to use a trade exception, which allows trades to be made despite unbalanced salaries. It is also useful to compensate teams for losing free agents as they can do a sign and trade of that free agent to acquire a trade exception that can be used later. Note this exception is for single player trades only, though additional cash and draft picks can be part of the trade.

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        • Giants4Natic
          Banned
          • Oct 2010
          • 2475

          #2479
          Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

          If the Knicks did get that TPE then I think Walsh should go after Dalembert from the Kings

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          • Kully
            MVP
            • Jul 2007
            • 3178

            #2480
            Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

            A TPE is automatically created when you send out more money in contracts than you get back, they don't get it from any team haha. I believe Denver also created one in this trade.

            It is a factor though.

            Edit: Giants4Natic is on to something, it looks like only Denver creates a TPE. NY takes on more salary than they gave up.
            Last edited by Kully; 02-22-2011, 11:05 AM.

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            • Giants4Natic
              Banned
              • Oct 2010
              • 2475

              #2481
              Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

              Looking at the salaries and deal involved I think Sheridan might be wrong about the knicks getting the TPE

              I think that goes to Denver

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              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #2482
                Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                Looking at the salaries and deal involved I think Sheridan might be wrong about the knicks getting the TPE

                I think that goes to Denver
                Off topic, but anyway you can make your avatar into a wallpaper?
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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #2483
                  Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                  What number will Melo where?
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                  • Kully
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3178

                    #2484
                    Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    What number will Melo where?
                    apparently #13

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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #2485
                      Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                      Also Batmon... I was just checking Corey Brewer numbers. I don't think he can play the 4 spot. His career average for rebounds is 3.3. And he only weights 188. ...Yea he is not going down low anytime soon lol
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                      • BATMON
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1445

                        #2486
                        Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        Also Batmon... I was just checking Corey Brewer numbers. I don't think he can play the 4 spot. His career average for rebounds is 3.3. And he only weights 188. ...Yea he is not going down low anytime soon lol
                        Haha,...yeah he's too frail to play there. Landry Fields gets better rebounding numbers from the 2.

                        Brewer is going to be a big help on the defensive end. I just wonder how the coach is going to split the bench minutes w/ Brewer and Shawne Williams.

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                        • Kully
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 3178

                          #2487
                          Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                          Some bits fron an Alan Hahn report today:

                          From what I'm told, neither Brewer nor the first round pick may remain in the Knicks' possession beyond Thursday's trade deadline, but what either could be used for remains unknown. The deal leaves one open roster spot for the Knicks to fill with, perhaps, some much-needed big man help with the departure of the 7-1 Mozgov. Right now the Knicks' size consists of 6-10 Amar'e Stoudemire, 6-10 Ronny Turiaf, 6-9 Shawne Williams and 6-9 Shelden Williams. Has Earl Barron kept working out?

                          What about Rasheed Wallace, who actually would be a perfect fit in D'Antoni's system? There was talk in January of Sheed possibly coming out of retirement to join the Celtics, but nothing has materialized.

                          The Knicks could open up other spots by waiving Carter, Shelden Williams, or even Roger Mason, who are each on expiring one-year veterans minimum deals.

                          As for the future, the cap situation is impossible to project because there will be a new CBA in place for that season.

                          So let's just provide the payroll for now: $60,610,763 in salaries for nine players, with $1,577,744 in non-guaranteed money ($788,872 for second-round picks Landry Fields and Andy Rautins). But that's not taking into account the team's 2011 first round pick, which is an automatic cap hit. The Rockets, as part of the Tracy McGrady trade from last season, have the right to swap picks with the Knicks if Houston finishes with a better record.

                          We don't know what the new system will bring, but considering this year's cap is $59M, it's safe to assume the Knicks will be capped-out for the 2011-12 season. So, unless there is a shocking development in collective bargaining and the reviled mid-level exception survives, the Knicks won't be able to sign anyone. So forget making a play for Tyson Chandler or signing Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan to offer sheets. The most the Knicks will be able to do is add a few depth players on veteran's minimum deals.

                          So who will be the starting center in 2011-12? Don't laugh, but the team does have 2010 second round pick Jerome Jordan, a gangly 7-footer, playing over in Europe.

                          As we've explained here at the Fix before, the Knicks could get some cap space if they waive Billups within five days of their final game (playoffs count) of the 2010-11 season. After five days, his entire $14.2M salary for 2011-12 locks in. If he's waived, the team only owes him $3.7M, which means a $10.5M savings.

                          But, of course, it would also mean a huge deficit at the starting point guard position, which is an area you don't want to have to address until 2012.

                          The Carmelo trade, once he signs the extension, will have a major impact on the 2012 cap situation, of course. If you factor in the 105 percent increase (and check my math, Fixers, because you know I'm brutal), Carmelo's salary for 2012-13 will be $19,444,502. Amar'e is slated to make $19,948,799. The only other salary commitment the Knicks have, to date, is Balkman's $1,675,000. The team doesn't have a first round pick in '12 (that goes to Houston), but the salary for their '11 pick will also be included here, plus the anticipated extension that Fields is likely to get if he keeps up his quality play. But just factoring in the commitments currently on the ledger, the Knicks are locked in for $41,068,301 for three players.


                          He also mentions that NY may be getting a first round pick from Minnesota
                          Last edited by Kully; 02-22-2011, 11:32 AM.

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                          • TexasBorn1
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 798

                            #2488
                            Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                            In order for the Knicks to land a good free agent in 2012 it will take good/sound decision making by their Front Office and I just don't see that happening given their history. And if Isiah comes back just throw everything out the window. He still has dreams of Lebron playing in MSG

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                            • Pete1210
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3277

                              #2489
                              Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                              But just factoring in the commitments currently on the ledger, the Knicks are locked in for $41,068,301 for three players.
                              Could Amare and Melo rework their contracts, making something less to make room to pay a 3rd star to join them?

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                              • OSUFan_88
                                Outback Jesus
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 25642

                                #2490
                                Re: Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

                                Originally posted by Pete1210
                                Could Amare and Melo rework their contracts, making something less to make room to pay a 3rd star to join them?
                                I don't think the NBAPA would allow that.
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