Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

[J-Clutch1]

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Does Larry Brown like his PGs to score alot of points because Devin has proven that can do that when he's healthy and confident or does he prefer them to be just distributers and play solid D(which Devin also does well)?

Devn is capable of doing the latter, but he just chooses not to most of the time, as shown with the Nets.

I don't know, I think the Nets ruined his defensive mentality.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The more I read about this, it seems like Augustin won't be part of the deal. That sucks, in my opinion.

Even though Augustin isn't starting quality, it'd be good to get a PG in return. Maybe Ben Uzoh can magically develop into a solid backup and Farmar blossoms.

Either way, I hope to see Outlaw traded for a point guard, and smart draft picks.

In next year's free agency, I also hope we go after Nene or Al Horford. Losing both Harris and Favors hurts.. but if Melo can ultimately lead us to Chris Paul (what a pipe dream), I guess i'm supportive.

I'd keep Outlaw for now and let Jordan run the point(assuming this reported deal goes down). I think we'd still have like 9 draft picks left over the next 3 years as well so I think we'd be fine in that area.

Pass on Nene and Horford is a MAYBE to me at this point, but if I had to chose RIGHT NOW I'd probably pass on him as well. Although that could very easily change in the next year lol. Right now I'm sort've taking a wait and see approach with this team, seeing how everyone will fit in and how they'll adjust to Avery's system and how quickly they can pick up, which there's no rush to BTW.

Devn is capable of doing the latter, but he just chooses not to most of the time, as shown with the Nets.

I don't know, I think the Nets ruined his defensive mentality.

He chooses not to or did the Coaches screw him over in that regard? Reason I ask is because remember there would be some nights where we'd be an Offensive Run-n-Gun type of team and then other nights we'd be a Half Court Offense running team. In other words, we had no identity while the 12 Year Old was here lol. I still don't think he's been the same PG since he got hurt the year he made the All Star team in 08.

[Bumi]

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And there's no guarantee Noah resigns with the Bulls, and on top of that he wants 70 million? Easy decision in my opinion. Pack his bags for em and head to the eastern conference finals.

Wade > Rose(For now, Wade is injury prone and his game is based solely on his athleticism. We'll soon be a decline in his performance.)

LeBron > Melo(Though I'd rather have Melo. He fits the scorer mold much better than LeBron, and would mesh well with Rose. He doesn't need the ball at all times to be effective)

Boozer and Bosh are a toss up in my opinion. Both can give you 20 & 10.

Get it done Bulls.

[J-Clutch1]

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Yeah we have 8 or so draft picks. Just wondering, are you indifferent about this trade? Not crazy about it, but also not too upset? That's basically the boat I'm in, but I may get crazy about it depending on how the year goes and whatnot, like you said.

I guess last year shouldn't be how we judge the players since that was just awful, with the different coaches, bad owner, and everything else. I'm okay with letting Harris go, since he has shown to be injury prone after his all-star appearance. Even when he was an all-star though, he wasn't that good a defender.

I remember watching on YES a preview for back-to-back games against the Spurs, and Ian Eagle and whoever would mention how Harris was THE man to stop Parker and show good defense. I never noticed much of that against whoever he defended as a Net.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yeah we have 8 or so draft picks. Just wondering, are you indifferent about this trade? Not crazy about it, but also not too upset? That's basically the boat I'm in, but I may get crazy about it depending on how the year goes and whatnot, like you said.

I guess last year shouldn't be how we judge the players since that was just awful, with the different coaches, bad owner, and everything else. I'm okay with letting Harris go, since he has shown to be injury prone after his all-star appearance. Even when he was an all-star though, he wasn't that good a defender.

I remember watching on YES a preview for back-to-back games against the Spurs, and Ian Eagle and whoever would mention how Harris was THE man to stop Parker and show good defense. I never noticed much of that against whoever he defended as a Net.

I've pretty much been the same as you in regards to this trade. Wouldn't be upset or pissed if we didn't get him but also wouldn't be ready to say that getting Melo automatically us a Top 5-6 team in the East because like you said, this is basically a new roster(that was our motto going into the Offseason "It's All New" haha)

I was willing to go the OKC Route in that we'll take a bumps and bruises like we had for the past few seasons and just develop our players under this system but if getting Melo would speed that process up some, then I'd have no problem making the move.

And I agree in that last year we really shouldn't judge the players off of that because everyone who was apart of that mess is gone(FINALLY)Of course to the folks that follow the team like me, you dossier and a few other folks on here we're not as bad as our record indicated but at the end of the day we were still 12-70 and that sticks out to people and the only way we can make people(non Nets Fans)forget about that would be to gain some respectability(which a little bit would maybe come with Melo)and to get that we would have to win(which we will get this year because there's only one way for us to go and that's up)

I won't lie I probably would be a little bit upset if Harris were to leave since he's pretty much been my favorite player on this squad and was practically the ONLY reason anybody else would watch the Nets play but if he is moved then I hope he rebounds from the past few seasons here in NJ and hopefully get back to his 2008-09 All Star form.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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From a reliable poster on one of the Nets' Boards(who also covers the team as well):

When you're 12-70

and everything about you is new, you wind up overpaying for free agents…and in trades. It’s a fact of life.
And this is about making Brooklyn viable. Nets will have Melo for four years, next year plus the extension. That means two years in New Jersey and two years in Brooklyn.
I’m not blaming Billy King for giving up too much. He was brought on to be aggressive and change the team’s culture. Thorn would never have done the Murphy trade. Nets insiders have told us that. Doubt he would have done this deal too.
It could in two years look like a disaster. In fact, I think it will. But in two years, the Nets will be in Brooklyn and who knows what their situation will be. This is about clearing the 12-70 rep.

[J-Clutch1]

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From a reliable poster on one of the Nets' Boards(who also covers the team as well):

Was that NetIncome ? lol

I feel bad for both Harris and Favors. Harris was so happy to be reunited with Avery, and has been reportedly working hard this summer, and then learns that he'll be traded.

Favors is only 19, wanted to come to the Nets, wanted to get better with these guys, wanted to meet the owner, and then learns that he'll be traded.

Tough to go through, even though it's all business.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yup that's where I got it from lol

[J-Clutch1]

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I hope the replacement for Devin is able to hit a 3 point shot, play defense, and just control the tempo of the game adquately. Melo's scoring makes Devin expendable I guess.

[LingeringRegime]

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Does Larry Brown like his PGs to score alot of points because Devin has proven that can do that when he's healthy and confident or does he prefer them to be just distributers and play solid D(which Devin also does well)?

I recall a story that Raymond Felton told where he had like 25 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. And was confident that LB would praise him after the game. But, he was upset because he didn't spread the ball around as much. They lost that game by the way, so maybe that was a big part of it.

Bottom line is our offense was bad last year. I think we were the worst in the league, if not very close to being the worst. Harris would definitely add some much needed firepower, so LB will have to deal with it.

[Dice]

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The latest from Adrian Wojnarowski Twitter:

Y! Sources: Denver debates internally on whether to take present deal for 'Melo, Nets try expand trade to get PG

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Been reading some other reports on this that if we can't get Augustine from Charlotte, that I guess we'll try to get a fifth team involved in this deal, that's basically in Melo's hands at this point, supposedly.

Question, is 3 years the MAX that he can sign right now or is that what HE wants to do(have a 3 yr deal instead)?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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New Update:

By the time Monday morning arrives, these furious final days of negotiations between Denver, Utah, Charlotte and New Jersey might indeed result in Carmelo Anthony becoming a member of the Nets.

But according to two sources close to the situation, the Nuggets -- who stand to acquire Nets rookie forward Derrick Favors, Utah forward Andrei Kirilenko and two first-round draft picks from New Jersey in the deal -- are compromising the trade with their slow-moving ways.

No key figure is growing more impatient than Nets general manager Billy King, who is determined to get the deal done by Monday and unclear on why new Denver general manager Masai Ujiri is fielding calls from teams like Cleveland and Indiana that are attempting to get involved in the trade. Ujiri, who was an assistant general manager with the Raptors and just experienced the ill-fated Chris Bosh departure to Miami, is clearly attempting to exhaust more options before agreeing to the deal.

At this advanced stage of the talks however, it's a dangerous tactic.

Because it appears Anthony would sign the three-year, $65 million extension with the Nets that is certainly a precursor to their involvement, Denver's insistence on exploring other avenues while not tending more closely to the situation at hand means they could lose one of the few Anthony suitors who fits all the necessary qualifications. Only so many teams are realistically in the running for Anthony, of course, as his agreement to an extension is an obvious precursor to a deal. Sources say he has warmed to the notion of the Nets after the likes of New York, Chicago, the Clippers and perhaps even Houston were originally more preferable.

Secondly, the highly-publicized nature of the talks has increased the tensions for all involved, with the Nets, Bobcats and Jazz eager to finalize the trade so the uncomfortable situation doesn't loom over their current players' heads during training camp. The smart play for the Nuggets might well have been to quietly let the many 'Melo possibilities unfold, but their choice to travel this far down this road is making the pragmatic approach problematic.

It's unclear whether Charlotte would send point guard D.J. Augustin to the Nets in the deal, though they are pushing for help at the position in light of Devin Harris' planned exit to the Bobcats. Utah is expected to receive small forward Boris Diaw from Charlotte. Numerous reports also have Utah acquiring Quinton Ross and the Bobcats getting Jarvis Hayes via sign-and-trade. The Nuggets' two first-round picks acquired would be from New Jersey (their 2011 pick and a 2012 pick from Golden State that is protected at spots one through seven).

[J-Clutch1]

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I read the Nuggets GM is making Billy King impatient. The Nuggets GM is reportedly listening to calls from other teams like the Cavaliers and Pacers.

WTF is this. They won't even make better offers than this one.

If this leads to the Nets tweaking the offer to make it better for themselves, or if it leads to it not happening at all, I'm all for it I guess.

This is so stupid.

[da ThRONe]

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I read the Nuggets GM is making Billy King impatient. The Nuggets GM is reportedly listening to calls from other teams like the Cavaliers and Pacers.

WTF is this. They won't even make better offers than this one.

If this leads to the Nets tweaking the offer to make it better for themselves, or if it leads to it not happening at all, I'm all for it I guess.

This is so stupid.

What is Denver GM doing? Melo will not agree to sign with Indiana or Cleveland. You have a great chance to get something for a guy you cant keep.