Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

[OSUFan_88]

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Iggy may be "massively overrated" but that has nothing to do with comparing him to Gallo.

Dwight Howard and every top point guard in the NBA are massively overrated but that doesn't mean that say...Lamar Odom is better than them.

Perhaps I am going way overboard with the "Gallo is better than Iggy" talk, but I'd take Gallo's future over Iggy.

And Juke, I'm pretty sure Jason Kapono does not know how to use a PC.

[Streets]

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Edit: And yes, I know my hate is totally irrational.

Alright, this is all I needed to hear my man.

[nickjamesm7]

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GarPax should trade Deng, Noah, and a first round pick for him, I guess the hold up is the Bulls not wanting to part with Noah, but if that's what it takes to get closer, do it (I like Noah and what he has done, but he's no Melo, we can find the rebounds elsewhere).... or if it get's late and the Nugs just need to get something instead of losing Melo and getting nothing, see if Deng, Taj Gibson and a first round pick would get it done... throw James Johnson in on any of those trades if you must... How would a starting five of Rose, Brewer, Melo, Gibson and Boozer be? and if you could somehow keep Noah as well? He would be the center and Gibson would probably be gone. See ya... My point is, everyone on the roster should be made available except Rose, now I know Denver doesn't want Boozer's knees and contract, so he is out of the equation... but if I am a GM, that's how I would approach this... 25 points, 6 boards, and 3 assists per game from one guy isn't something I could pass up

[ehh]

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The Nuggets don't want Noah or Deng according to a Denver beat writer.

[Streets]

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GarPax should trade Deng, Noah, and a first round pick for him, I guess the hold up is the Bulls not wanting to part with Noah, but if that's what it takes to get closer, do it (I like Noah and what he has done, but he's no Melo, we can find the rebounds elsewhere).... or if it get's late and the Nugs just need to get something instead of losing Melo and getting nothing, see if Deng, Taj Gibson and a first round pick would get it done... throw James Johnson in on any of those trades if you must... How would a starting five of Rose, Brewer, Melo, Gibson and Boozer be? and if you could somehow keep Noah as well? He would be the center and Gibson would probably be gone. See ya... My point is, everyone on the roster should be made available except Rose, now I know Denver doesn't want Boozer's knees and contract, so he is out of the equation... but if I am a GM, that's how I would approach this... 25 points, 6 boards, and 3 assists per game from one guy isn't something I could pass up

Plus, you get Melo plus extension. There's no guarentee that Noah re-ups with Chicago, as he'll probably look for a max contract (and some team will be stupid enough to give him close to that). Who's the greater value? Melo locked up for a max deal or Noah at a near max?

I know this is all speculation on my part, but if you're Chicago, you have to think long term. Get Melo and plug in a decent 5 who can rebound and block shots (Dampier or Mbenga type) as a stop gap until free agency or the draft and roll with that.

The Nuggets don't want Noah or Deng according to a Denver beat writer.

There's also reports that it is Chicago who won't part with Noah. I guess it all depends on what "sources" you trust.

[hokupguy]

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this nugget doesnt look happy at media day...

[Dice]

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Statistically since Magic Johnson you have as much of a chance winning a championship with a poster from OS than you do of winning with an All NBA point guard.

Isaiah Thomas in 89 and 90.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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To be fair, for the folks who think we ****ed this one up, might wanna take a look at the newbie over there in Denver because we did something that we probably wouldn't have even done if Thorn was still here. Denver's GM reportedly put out there what he was looking for and when we called his bluff and offered what he was reportedly looking for, he got scared and wanted to put this on hold but if talks were never that serious, it would have never even gotten this far.

In this day and age of professional sports, when you're trying to move a superstar or potential superstar in his prime, you're never, EVER going to get equal value in return no matter how GOOD or GREAT that player is. You can get CLOSE(that definition is for you to decide) but folks need to realize that this is how it's going to be and Denver's GM doesn't realize this but that's understandable since he's pretty much "new" in this game for the most part but eventually most of this stuff he will learn about.

But again, for the folk or folks who think that this our fault that this didn't go thru, that isn't the case in this one.

[Streets]

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But again, for the folk or folks who think that this our fault that this didn't go thru, that isn't the case in this one.

I was just going to post that given the situation that Denver's new GM has been put in, no one would blame or judge him no matter how this situation turned out, because, well... it's a a bad situation. Basically I figured, they'd get what they could and he could begin to be judged based on everything he does after.

Well... he proved me wrong. He handled this situation horribly, got greedy, had a great package from NJ (getting exactly what they wanted), but wanted even more. He's burned bridges with Melo, and other teams. It's to the point where he's going to walk to NY or get traded there later for nothing (which kills me as a Rockets fan). With more teams less likely to deal with Denver and Anthony no longer willing to work with Denver (thus shortening his list of teams he'll sign the extension with), Denver is screwed (and NY benefits). Trust me, I definitely blame Denver.

[JustBIaze!]

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I was just going to post that given the situation that Denver's new GM has been put in, no one would blame or judge him no matter how this situation turned out, because, well... it's a a bad situation. Basically I figured, they'd get what they could and he could begin to be judged based on everything he does after.

Well... he proved me wrong. He handled this situation horribly, got greedy, had a great package from Denver (getting exactly what they wanted), but wanted even more). He's burned bridges with Melo, and other teams. It's to the point where he's going to walk to NY or get traded there later for nothing (which kills me as a Rockets fan). With more teams less likely to deal with Denver and Anthony no longer willing to work with Denver (thus shortening his list of teams he'll sign the extension with), Denver is screwed (and NY benefits). Trust me, I definitely blame Denver.

I agree 100%.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Although the proposed deal would have furnished Denver with two future first-rounders and Favors -- satisfying many of the prerequisites it established when it began fielding offers for Anthony earlier this month -- Kroenke's 2010-11 payroll would have increased by $4.8 million, which would force the Nuggets to spend an extra $9.6 million (including luxury-tax penalties) to become a worse team.

This is what killed the deal

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yup.

Dude wanted to cut payroll but remain competitive in the West and not start rebuilding already. He basically tried to have it both ways but they need to realize that's now how it works.

You either keep him and build around him, even if it might not be enough to get him to stay past this year or you move him, get what you can for him and start the rebuild process right now, which at this point is all but inevitable. NJ tried to do this with the whole Kidd, RJ, Carter Project when it was obvious it wasn't going to work and instead of letting them take up most of the payroll and/or be a distraction while they were here, they decided to move them and get what they can for them, which looking at it now they got back some nice value from each of them.

[nickjamesm7]

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Plus, you get Melo plus extension. There's no guarentee that Noah re-ups with Chicago, as he'll probably look for a max contract (and some team will be stupid enough to give him close to that). Who's the greater value? Melo locked up for a max deal or Noah at a near max?

I know this is all speculation on my part, but if you're Chicago, you have to think long term. Get Melo and plug in a decent 5 who can rebound and block shots (Dampier or Mbenga type) as a stop gap until free agency or the draft and roll with that.



There's also reports that it is Chicago who won't part with Noah. I guess it all depends on what "sources" you trust.

Exactly... Put Boozer at the 5 and Gibson at the 4, and bring in Asik and see what he can do off the bench to grab some boards and play some defense

[hokupguy]

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i can wait to compare the trade the eventually goes down, to see which one would of been better for them. This new GM might be one yr and done in nugget land.

[Eman5805]

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Statistically since Magic Johnson you have as much of a chance winning a championship with a poster from OS than you do of winning with an All NBA point guard.



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So...if your team had a chance to acquire Chris Paul, no questions asked...you'd say, "No. I want to win a championship."

Because I guarantee you'd say that about your team acquiring me.