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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #751
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

    Originally posted by mKoz26
    That guy you know is taking and making the last shot down by one with 10 seconds left. And he's got to be at least solid defensively.
    So does a guy like Robert Horry constitutes as a superstar?

    He does everything you just explained.
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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    • ffaacc03
      MVP
      • Oct 2008
      • 3487

      #752
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

      Originally posted by Dice
      So does a guy like Robert Horry constitutes as a superstar?

      He does everything you just explained.
      hehe ... exactly my thoughts !

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      • mKoz26
        In case you forgot...
        • Jan 2009
        • 4685

        #753
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

        Originally posted by Dice
        So does a guy like Robert Horry constitutes as a superstar?

        He does everything you just explained.
        Yeah because he's the guy the other team gameplans for and denies the ball on that last play.

        He's come up with a few clutch shots in his career, 0 off the dribble.
        Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

        @CDonkey26

        Originally posted by baumy300
        Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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        • Dice
          Sitting by the door
          • Jul 2002
          • 6627

          #754
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

          Originally posted by mKoz26
          Yeah because he's the guy the other team gameplans for and denies the ball on that last play.

          He's come up with a few clutch shots in his career, 0 off the dribble.
          I really hope your being sarcastic.
          I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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          • PrettyT11
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 3220

            #755
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

            Originally posted by Dice
            Well, if that's the case then would you put James Worthy in the Gervin, English and Nique class? I would BUT he has 4 rings. And he has those rings because he played with another superstar in Magic. I don't disagree with you on Melo as a player. He won't win the championship as 'THE GUY'. BUT pair him with another superstar and watch him win multiple rings. Bosh falls into this category as well. BUT he'll probably go to the HOF if everything works out the way they think it's going to work out. All because he's playing with James and Wade. If the Heat win just 3 rings, I'll put money on that James, Wade and Bosh are HOF locks. Wade and James are already there without the rings, it's Bosh who's the one that's tied into the Heat's success.
            I wouldn't group Worthy in the same group as those guys in the way I described it earlier. James was more well rounded than they where but also I don't think James had the flat out you can't stop me scoring ability as those guys. You also can't fairly do a direct comparison between him and those guys. James was able to play the swingman role and wasn't asked or forced to carry the team. He played that role as well as anybody in history and has been rewarded for it. He his the prototype wingman you want on a fast breaking team. Those guys I mentioned had to play the number 1 for thier team and if they wasn't scoring then the team wasn't winning. They didn't have the team around them to lighten the load. I don't know if Worthy would have exceled as much if forced in the same role but we will never know.

            P.S. before Alex Brady comes in yes James was a better player in the playoffs and in the clutch. He lived up to his nickname Big Game James time and time again.

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            • mKoz26
              In case you forgot...
              • Jan 2009
              • 4685

              #756
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

              Originally posted by Dice
              I really hope your being sarcastic.
              The last post about Horry was.

              EDIT: I should be more specific about my definition of a superstar. He's got to be the first option as well as putting up big numbers on a winning team.

              And he's still got to be solid defensively and clutch in big situations.
              Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

              @CDonkey26

              Originally posted by baumy300
              Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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              • Dice
                Sitting by the door
                • Jul 2002
                • 6627

                #757
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                Originally posted by mKoz26
                The last post about Horry was.

                EDIT: I should be more specific about my definition of a superstar. He's got to be the first option as well as putting up big numbers on a winning team.

                And he's still got to be solid defensively and clutch in big situations.
                OK. You were starting to scare me there.

                Back to the topic at hand. So what about Larry Bird? He wasn't all that great on defense but yet many people would consider him a superstar.
                I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                • mKoz26
                  In case you forgot...
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4685

                  #758
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  OK. You were starting to scare me there.

                  Back to the topic at hand. So what about Larry Bird? He wasn't all that great on defense but yet many people would consider him a superstar.
                  Of course there are occasional exceptions, and I'd consider Bird one of them.

                  Another is Steve Nash.
                  Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

                  @CDonkey26

                  Originally posted by baumy300
                  Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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                  • Cebby
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 22327

                    #759
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                    I wouldn't really consider KG a superstar when he was traded, but he moved up once he was traded.

                    Prior to the trade he had spent 3 years out of the playoffs, missed all 3 All NBA teams in 2006 and made the third team in 2007.

                    I consider a super star to be one of the transcendent players in the NBA. In the current NBA I'd say that only Kobe, Lebron, Wade, and Durant are at the level. Anthony, Paul, Dirk, and a few others are definitely stars, but not in the category of the first 4. Howard is the most borderline since he's easily the best center but not a threat to take over a game like the others.

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                    • PrettyT11
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3220

                      #760
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                      Originally posted by Dice
                      OK. You were starting to scare me there.

                      Back to the topic at hand. So what about Larry Bird? He wasn't all that great on defense but yet many people would consider him a superstar.
                      His man to man D wasn't all that but his team defense was very good. But aside from defense though Bird exceled in every other area of the game. He was a great scorer, great rebounder, and great passer. He was putting up 20 plus points, 10 boards, and six assists a night. That is amazing numbers and him and Garnett are the only guys in history to put up those kind of numbers over a five year run. Not to mention the things he did when the game was on the line.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #761
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                        KG was still an elite big in 2008. So whether or not he was a superstar, Boston certainly had 3 All-Stars if not superstars.

                        In other words, Boston had enough to get a title in the proposed "blueprint for a title" AKA have a number of stars or have an elite wing and/or big.

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                        • PrettyT11
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3220

                          #762
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                          Yeah KG was without question an elite player when he was traded. He had just lead the league in rebounding for the fourth straight year while putting up over 20 points a night, 4 to 5 assists, and playing All NBA level defense.

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                          • mKoz26
                            In case you forgot...
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 4685

                            #763
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            KG was still an elite big in 2008. So whether or not he was a superstar, Boston certainly had 3 All-Stars if not superstars.

                            In other words, Boston had enough to get a title in the proposed "blueprint for a title" AKA have a number of stars or have an elite wing and/or big.
                            Totally agree. That Boston mold was no exception or fluke. That team was one of the most talented of the last 10 years.
                            Bears | Bulls | Cubs | Illinois | #Team3Some

                            @CDonkey26

                            Originally posted by baumy300
                            Yeah, she may be a bit of a beotch, but you get back to me when you find out a way to motorboat personality...

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                            • Dice
                              Sitting by the door
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6627

                              #764
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              KG was still an elite big in 2008. So whether or not he was a superstar, Boston certainly had 3 All-Stars if not superstars.

                              In other words, Boston had enough to get a title in the proposed "blueprint for a title" AKA have a number of stars or have an elite wing and/or big.
                              I'd say KG was a superstar.

                              In my mind, a superstar is someone who is viable candidate to be the league's MVP. KG was a heavy contender for league MVP that year. He finished 3rd in the balloting.
                              I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                              • BlueNGold
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 21817

                                #765
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                                Originally posted by Dice
                                I'd say KG was a superstar.

                                In my mind, a superstar is someone who is viable candidate to be the league's MVP. KG was a heavy contender for league MVP that year. He finished 3rd in the balloting.
                                KG should have won MVP that year. I don't know how he wasn't the "Most Valuable" player in the league that year just based off the fact of how he changed the entire culture of that team.

                                This is a little off-topic though, ha.
                                Originally posted by bradtxmale
                                I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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