Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

[ScoobySnax]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

Couldn't choose a better title than The Carmelo Anthony Saga though?

LMAO! I was kinda thinking the same thing. We got the Melo Saga, the GA saga, the Roethlisberger saga. That's a lot of sagas! Much love tho Streets! LOL

[ehh]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

This whole situation doesn't make sense and some these rumors are ridiculous. The Wolves and Kings? Really?

Melo isn't going to agree to an extension with any cellar dweller and no cellar dweller is going to give up their young guys with potential for someone who won't agree to an extension as part of the trade.

I don't see the Nets giving up Favors and Lopez for Melo. I'd be surprised if he wanted to go to Houston because it's a similar situation to Denver - he'd still be stuck in the West on a team that doesn't have the talent to win a title. The pieces are a little younger outside of Yao at least.

I think Melo starts the season in Denver and they may trade him for pennies on the dollar mid-season. They hold no power in this situation. Melo can be a free agent one way or another next summer, that kills the Nuggets chances to get a good return. If he doesn't agree to an extension as part of the deal then Denver is f'd.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

Oh and I'm not getting my hopes up for this either until I know for certain that a move is imminent and that it'll be the Nets. After getting hook, line, and suckered a few years back with the Randy Moss to the Packers stuff a few years ago, I told myself I would never get too excited about a "name" going to one of my favorite teams until it actually happened.

[ehh]

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Honestly Pack there is no team that should be hoping they trade for Melo. Why are the bad teams going to give up several young, promising pieces to get a guy that they can pursue in FA in ten months AND keep those young, promising pieces. Does removing those young pieces and adding Melo make any of those teams better? I doubt it.

I don't want the Knicks to even consider trading for him unless it doesn't involve Gallo or Randolph (which won't happen).

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Exactly.

All this stuff about giving up Lopez, Williams, Favors AND Picks(which we have PLENTY of but I still wouldn't give up most of them)for Melo, I'd rather pass on that and go the simple rebuild route and develop some of the youngins that we have.

[Streets]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

All the work I put into this thread, and ya'll are harping on the name!? Come on now! I simply lifted the title from "the LeBron James Saga" thread. Nothing more to it than that.

Pack, I wish I had your mentality, but I always get swept up no matter what, and usually end up disappointed. The Nets (and the fans I've interacted with, at least here on OS) are cool with me. So, if it's not us, I'm hoping it's you (even though I'll be disappointed regardless).

[Cebby]

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I think Melo starts the season in Denver and they may trade him for pennies on the dollar mid-season. They hold no power in this situation. Melo can be a free agent one way or another next summer, that kills the Nuggets chances to get a good return. If he doesn't agree to an extension as part of the deal then Denver is f'd.

Any other year and that would be true.

However, with the new CBA looming next summer, Melo will likely be financially ****ed if he isn't willing to resign with the team Denver trades him to.

That's why all these stupid rumors come into play.

Denver actually holds the vast majority of the power, especially if a lockout is eminent. If Melo demands a specific team (the Knicks are generally said to hold this card) he's either going to have to be willing to give up tens of millions or the Knicks are going to have to be willing to give up significantly more than Melo would be worth on the open market.

If Melo isn't willing to play ball and give a list of destinations that's 3-5 teams long, Denver can put him in a horrible position. Denver can agree midseason to a unprotected 1st rounder from Minny/Sac (I think they have Minny's pick)/NJ/Washington/whoever is awful and say "alright Melo, either agree to an extension with a team that may not be your #1 or risk the severe devaluation of the largest contract of your life."

[ehh]

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I think he would rather risk seeing what the new CBA brings than agree to an extension with the Kings or T'Wolves if it comes to Denver making that threat to him.

He won't be financially ****ed, the new CBA won't be that drastically different for max deals in terms of the dollar amount, just the years. Regardless of that, he'll still be getting a max deal - whatever it may be with the new CBA. He'll lose some money but he won't be ****ed.

[dossier]

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Exactly.

All this stuff about giving up Lopez, Williams, Favors AND Picks(which we have PLENTY of but I still wouldn't give up most of them)for Melo, I'd rather pass on that and go the simple rebuild route and develop some of the youngins that we have.

nobody said both favors and lopez. but you would have to be crazy to not want a line up with lopez, anthony, and harris or harris, anthony, and favors.

besides we have an extremely rich owner, and are going to brooklyn with arguably the greatest arena in the NBA(yes that includes MSG) Why do a standard rebuilding process which takes years when you can be a big market team and just sign great players

no offense but i think you're blinded by the dank dope your smoking

[Cebby]

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I think he would rather risk seeing what the new CBA brings than agree to an extension with the Kings or T'Wolves if it comes to Denver making that threat to him.

He won't be financially ****ed, the new CBA won't be that drastically different for max deals in terms of the dollar amount, just the years. Regardless of that, he'll still be getting a max deal - whatever it may be with the new CBA. He'll lose some money but he won't be ****ed.

If he doesn't agree to an extension before the new CBA and opts out of his contract he'll lost $18.5 million in 2010-2011 alone.

That coupled with the shorter years on max contracts and the possibility of far lower money per year and yes, he will be financially ****ed if he doesn't play ball with Denver.

[ehh]

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If he doesn't agree to an extension before the new CBA and opts out of his contract he'll lost $18.5 million in 2010-2011 alone.

That coupled with the shorter years on max contracts and the possibility of far lower money per year and yes, he will be financially ****ed if he doesn't play ball with Denver.

How do you know he'll lose $18.5 next year? Are you assuming a work stoppage?

Just because it's a shorter max deal doesn't mean he'll lose a ton long term, hell it could pay off if he's still in his prime and can get a second max deal that he wouldn't have gotten other wise. The NBAPA isn't going to agree to anything that reduces the top salaries by THAT much anyway.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that we don't know enough yet about how the labor talks will work out to say how much he'll lose.

[Cebby]

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How do you know he'll lose $18.5 next year? Are you assuming a work stoppage?

I'm assuming a work stoppage next year like I"m assuming that Melo won't sign with the Lakers for the vet minimum in 2010.

Just because it's a shorter max deal doesn't mean he'll lose a ton long term, hell it could pay off if he's still in his prime and can get a second max deal that he wouldn't have gotten other wise.

Sure, given that the first chance he'll have to sign a contract will be at age 28-29 when contending teams will definitely be willing to offer him the long term max.

Actually, no, that won't happen.

The NBAPA isn't going to agree to anything that reduces the top salaries by THAT much anyway.

You are absolutely right. Players always win CBA negotiations.

Wait a minute, players win strike negotiations roughly never.

[domidomdomz]

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Favors, Lopez, AND others? No chance in hell.

I'd like to see him come to the Clips. Davis/Butler/Anthony/Griffin/Kaman is pretty freakin' legit.

Who would the Clippers give for Melo? Eric Gordon and some scrubs? That's way more no chance in hell.

Kaman or Griffin with Aminu ,Gordon and future draft picks is the most logical package for Melo.

[J-Clutch1]

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Most likely Kaman, someone, and a pick.

I hope the Nets offer something like

either Murphy/Harris
Humphries
Ross
$3 Million
Draft picks(we have the most in the next 3 years)

They could replace Ross with James if they want.

[domidomdomz]

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Most likely Kaman, someone, and a pick.

I hope the Nets offer something like

either Murphy/Harris
Humphries
Ross
$3 Million
Draft picks(we have the most in the next 3 years)

They could replace Ross with James if they want.

Sorry but the Nuggets won't deal Carmelo to Nets without Brook Lopez and/or Favors. With that said, Martin might be shipped along side Melo. Nene can play as PF.