"I Could Score 100."

[airjoca]

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I'm sorry this arguement makes no sense. The level of talent Cheryll and Drazen faced isnt even close to the level of talent Jordan saw from even the bottom of the barrel teams.

Your comparing highschool girls basketball in the 80's to NBA basketball?

The game is easy if your a A+ player playing against F and D- players.

Yes I am. The bottom NBA players are the same to Michael as at least what the other pros were to Drazen, I'll leave girls out of it. Surely you realize Yugoslavia was a basketball superpower at the time? And Drazen did it in a 40m game, which is even more impressive.

You really think that todays worst NBA teams could dream of stopping Michael?

[King_B_Mack]

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"I'm sorry Kobe but 81 is not enough. You should have grabbed a few more boards and out of the 41 other pts you're team scored you could have also picked up 3 or 4 more assists."

Hey good job missing the point bro. I'm not taking away from Kobe's performance as it's one of the greatest I've ever seen in my life. But the fact is if all you're doing is focusing on scoring and your team is feeding you the ball to do it, an elite scorer like Kobe is going to put up a bonkers point total. Jordan never actually went out with scoring and not passing, other guys not doing anything in mind as Kobe did in his 81. If he didn't go out trying to grab boards and dishing to the open man on a play down court who knows what he could do.

[da ThRONe]

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This is such stupid logic. No one has come close to 81 points except Kobe. Does that mean he's the only person in league history capable of scoring 81? No one has come close to 100 but Kobe, does that mean he's the only player in history capable of scoring 100 cause he's at least come close? Jordan was putting together complete games while going bonkers in his career, Kobe was ONLY scoring in his 81 pointer. I'm looking at things in a light that Kobe's 81 has happened and the 'who's better' talk in the media and between fans has shifted to Kobe because he had that game. If Jordan set out to do it against some scrub defensive team, he COULD do it. My biggest thing has been this discussion going in a direction as if Jordan couldn't even score 70 or 81 simply because he didn't ever do it in his career which is how some of you are acting.

No. But what I am saying is if dropping a football field is as easy as challenging Jordan. Shouldnt he have gotten closer in his career despite the rules? It's extremely difficult to score 100 period and to think because some rules change a person can just walk on the court and do so IMO is delusional.

[KG]

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Hey good job missing the point bro. I'm not taking away from Kobe's performance as it's one of the greatest I've ever seen in my life. But the fact is if all you're doing is focusing on scoring and your team is feeding you the ball to do it, an elite scorer like Kobe is going to put up a bonkers point total. Jordan never actually went out with scoring and not passing, other guys not doing anything in mind as Kobe did in his 81. If he didn't go out trying to grab boards and dishing to the open man on a play down court who knows what he could do.

Kobe only did that in the 2nd half because his team was down. Once he got the comfortable lead he was around 70 and went for broke.

It's like MJ fans get insulted if you say he can't do something. I would have loved to see Mike get a century, or go for broke trying to do it. I just don't think it's as easy some people are making it out to be.

[Dice]

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No. But what I am saying is if dropping a football field is as easy as challenging Jordan. Shouldnt he have gotten closer in his career despite the rules? It's extremely difficult to score 100 period and to think because some rules change a person can just walk on the court and do so IMO is delusional.

And here's where we all disconnect about this. Nobody said Jordan could just walk onto a court and score 100. At least what I've been saying it's possible for him to do it IF the situation presents itself.

And the rules change makes a huge difference. As I stated in my long post, defenses back in the day was allowed to do more than they are today. So the rules from 20 years ago made a lot of bad defenders actually look good.

[mKoz26]

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I read the whole article....and Jordan just didn't think his answer all the way through or said something to get a rise. We were talking about this very thing on the Charlotte boards, when Jordan said contradictory statements in the past. It's not that big of a deal really though, I think it was just a figure of speech.

But most teams in the NBA today are good defensive teams....the Cavs (w/Lebron), Bobcats, Bucks, Spurs, Celtics, Lakers, Rockets, Jazz, Magic, Blazers, Hawks, Heat, etc. who unless MJ got really hot, scoring 100 against is absolutely out of the question. It's just not logical.

I figured MJ being hot was a given here. Nobody, not even Wilt, can score 100 without getting hot. It just won't happen.

[King_B_Mack]

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And here's where we all disconnect about this. Nobody said Jordan could just walk onto a court and score 100. At least what I've been saying it's possible for him to do it IF the situation presents itself.

And the rules change makes a huge difference. As I stated in my long post, defenses back in the day was allowed to do more than they are today. So the rules from 20 years ago made a lot of bad defenders actually look good.

Exactly even the title of the thread from his quote is "I COULD score 100' not I would, not without a doubt it would happen. For some reason it's being treated as we're saying he's going to go out against the Celtics and drop 100. If Jordan was playing one of his out of his mind games in this era against a crap team there's no doubt in my mind he COULD do it. Like I said, my issue in all this is more this logic of he didn't even score his 69 in regulation so therefore he's incapable of even getting to Kobe's point total in a game.

[sb24]

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To me this seems like the most relevent post of the thread. It wasnt like the guy just happened to score 100, they forced the issue to get to that point. I can only imagine what players would do now watching a player try to show them up like that.

#6 really sticks out. How would we react to that now.

I don't think you guys realize how crazy it is to score 100 in a game...Wilt Chamberlain took 63 shots and 32 free throws just to get to it!!!

MJ, Kobe, or LeBron I do think could do it, but some things would have to happen.


1. They'd have to be matched up against a terrible defense, and a team that plays up-tempo. Knicks or Warriors come to mind here.

2. They'd have to be absolutely feeling it. I mean like hitting atleast 10 3's.

3. They'd have to get a lot, a lot of calls to get to the free throw line. Then they'd have to hit a lot of free throws.

4. The teammates and coach of this player would have to sacrifice their shots, and basically give it to that player every possession. Wilt's coach told his team in the second half to give Wilt the ball every play.

5. The other team would have to be close in the game, because if not, then they'd put 4 guys on the man, just to not let him score 100.

6. The coach would have to do use some weird tactics. Wilt's coach fouled the opposing team every possession just to get more time on the clock for Wilt.


And the chances of those 6 things happening are insane. Plus the defense when Wilt played, wasn't even close to today's defense. I mean, his team scored 169 and gave up 147. Really it wasn't even like a real game. It was basically just a game to get Wilt a 100.

So, no I don't think this would've/will ever happen.

[yankeesgiants]

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As close as Kobe got, he still needed another 19 points. For a 100 point game the following events most likely need to happen:

double digit 3 pointer made: 10+
roughly 25 free throws made give or take a few. not attempted but made...
Then another 20-25 2 point baskets made.

folks it ain't that easy....

[Kashanova]

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kobe's 81 was one of the most overrated performances of all time, his 60 some points against the mavericks was definitely a better performance in my opinion

[Cebby]

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As close as Kobe got, he still needed another 19 points. For a 100 point game the following events most likely need to happen:

double digit 3 pointer made: 10+
roughly 25 free throws made give or take a few. not attempted but made...
Then another 20-25 2 point baskets made.

folks it ain't that easy....

And most importantly, absolutely no defense can be played which hasn't happened since 1962.

People don't realize that Wilt didn't just take over the game and score a huge percentage of his team's points like Kobe did. His team gave up 147 points and his teammates combined for 69. Wilt had 3 teammates with 16 or 17 points and the Knicks had 3 players with 31+.

Again, if Jordan played in 1962 100 points would certainly be attainable.

[Dice]

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As close as Kobe got, he still needed another 19 points. For a 100 point game the following events most likely need to happen:

double digit 3 pointer made: 10+
roughly 25 free throws made give or take a few. not attempted but made...
Then another 20-25 2 point baskets made.

folks it ain't that easy....

19 more points could have been possible. As you stated, hit 3 more 3pters(9 points), hit four more 2-pointers(8 points) and hit two more of his free throws(2 points) that's 19.

If you look at that game, with the shots Kobe took he had a possible of 125 points. Here's the break down:
- 33 2-point shots(66 points)
- 13 3-point shots(39 points)
- 20 Free throws(20 points)

Your telling me it wasn't possible for Kobe to hit just a few more shots in the game? Some of you guys are making it seem like this feat is impossible. It is possible. Will it happen? I'm not sure. Probably won't happen anytime soon BUT to rule it out is not out of the question. And if anybody can do it Jordan certainly can.

By the way, for those who thinks that a coach needs to conjure up some gimmicks to help his player get the record...Phil Jackson was coaching the game Kobe scored 81 out of the possible 125 points. So your telling me Phil told his players to foul the Raptors so Kobe could get the ball back?

[ex carrabba fan]

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Come on Dice, that's much more than 'hitting just a few more shots'

I've watched that game at least 3 times and he really maxed out that night. As I said in a previous post, I think the most he could have ended up with is around 89 if you break it down play by play.

[Cebby]

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Not only do you not understand the comparison BUT your taking my analogy way off base. What do Stackhouse, Jordan and Redd have in common? They all at one point in their lives played pro basketball. And with them comparing individual scoring achievements has nothing to do with head-to-head competition. So unless your stating that Billy, Joe and Pedro are all professional runners AND if Joe did beat Usain Bolt in a race AND Pedro beat Billy then YES Perdo could beat Usian Bolt in a race. My statement is nothing like what you said.

As far as the Stackhouse and Redd examples, neither one was half the scorer Jordan was and they got 57 points in a game. Which gives you the complete randomness of elite scoring in one game. Now I'm not saying that Jordan can do it at will BUT if the stars aligned right on that night and the team didn't care about defense then Jordan would be able to pull of that feat.

Actually Stackhouse and Redd were far more than half the scorer that MJ was.

Stackhouse led the NBA in points in 2001 and Redd finished 5th in 2007, both of which were the years they scored their 50+ point games.

Using Jordan's peak scoring of 37.1 per game, Stackhouse and Redd at their peak were roughly 80.3% and 72% of Jordan's peak as scorers.

Using Jordan's career average, Stackhouse at his peak was 99% of Jordan and Redd was 88.7. More importantly they both blow Jordan away in real 3 point shooting which helped them reach the 50s.

Now I know this doesn't jive with the belief that nobody in history could compare to Jordan, but this is reality.

However, the logic here is still awful. Even if you do assume Jordan is twice the scorer that Stackhouse was, that doesn't mean that he would score twice of any point total that Stackhouse scored. If you extrapolate that throughout the NBA then any all star could drop 100-200 as long as you could find some game were Adam Morrison or Scalibrine dropped 10 points.

So now you ask, why the low offense numbers? Well, as I stated before it starts with more players in the league with deficient offensive skills. You got more guys in the league who can't hit a 15 ft jumpshot than there was 20 years ago. Another reason for the low number is shooting percentages. More players are taking 3Pt shots than before. Which means the percentages are going to take a huge dip. Another one is more FT's back then. Now just because defenses got away with more doesn't mean that fouls weren't being called. More FT's means that more points went up on the board. This also attributes to the better offensively skilled players from yesteryear because most of them had the ability to draw fouls from their defenders.

Shooting percentages aren't down much at all (less than 1%), and with 3pointers involved I wouldn't be surprised if some of the overall shooting stats like true shooting aren't higher now.

The only reason points are down because teams are taking fewer shots. Comparing 2010 to 1991, teams are scoring 5.9 fewer points on 5.5 fewer shots and 3.3 fewer free throws. Even if Jordan could take advantage of the supposedly worse defenses, he'd also have to be doing it in the equivalent of 10-11 minute quarters.

Now take into content that Jordan would not be able to do it at will. I think people get caught up in the tone of the statement. Yes, Jordan has that type of arrogance with himself. BUT it's just like a great pitcher who thinks he can pitch a no-hitter as anytime. We all know he can do it BUT not when he wants to. The situation has to be right.

It's absolutely nothing like throwing a no-hitter.

It's really the equivalent of throwing some 5 perfect games in a row. It was done once under conditions that I still am not convinced were fair and since then nobody has come remotely close.

[OSUFan_88]

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But yeah not sure which MJ we're talkin here.

I think we are talking about the Michael Jordan that never existed.

At no point in his career could I look at Jordan and say "He could score 100."

Not only was their one man to ever score 100, but he had the perfect, and I do mean perfect, opportunity to do so.

1) No one could guard Wilt in his era. It was as if Peyton Manning was playing in the 20's in Football

2) He was a big guy and could make much easier baskets and get to the foul line more

I think some here don't have an appreciation of exactly how hard it would be for Jordan to break 100.

He'd have to take about...80 total shots, FT's, FG's and 3pters included, and shoot at about a 50% clip.