The Dwight Howard Thread

[Drewski]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

Kobe Bean sir. More than anyone, but they are close.

Don't think it's close at all. Kobe does it every time a shot doesn't go in (75% when it does fall). Generally, the Lakers pay for it on the other end, so I guess the karma world balances out.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

So it's established...everyone flops.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

Thing is I don't think it's quite as black and white as everyone flops. Technically that is the case, but it's like a action and reaction type of thing. There are guys/teams in the league that are not floppers. They don't go into the game looking to flop, they'll go through a full game without flopping, but then they play that jerk team that's full of floppers or at least has a flopping all-star on it and they in turn resort to flopping because they feel they aren't going to get any calls if they don't. Really it all boils down to the refs. You could cut down on it a lot if they didn't keep rewarding that nonsense.

[BlueNGold]

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So it's established...everyone flops.

Everyone pays taxes.

Everyone bleeds.

Everyone dies.

Everyone ****s.

Everyone flops.

[The 24th Letter]

Dirk is an expert at flopping on his jumpshot. I still maintain a lot of his flailing is because he's an awkward guy. You almost never see him flop around the basket though. He also usually doesn't cry to a ref after a flop.

Well I'm sure you could blame something or another for why everyone flops....but at the end of the day, Dirk is on that list....

[Boltman]

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So it's established...everyone flops.

No one, I repeat NO ONE will ever be a greater flopper than the greatest flopper of all time.

All witness...

The great master of the art of the Flop...

Vlade Flopping Divac!





Great article from back in 06 about flopping...

DIVAC: (puffing a cigarette) Next time, more head snap. I want to see whiplash! (More puffing). Otherwise, way to take … (snickering) the charge.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...e=hruby/060303



I realize this is the Dwight thread but it devolved into a flopping discussion so I thought I'd contribute, my apologies.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

Is it really too much to have Duhwight average 28-15 like Shaq says, considering the quality of Centers he deals with compared to who Shaq went up?

He already makes 10 trips to the FT Line, so you figure he has to make AT LEAST 1 of those and then make 3 more shots(which we assume will be within 6-8 ft of the Basket and would either be dunk, putback or alley oop or even his "patented hook shot")then 7 pts per quarter and 3-4 rebounds per quarter really shouldn't be out of the question for a guy of Duhwight's caliber.

[Dice]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

As I stated with Howard, you throw him in the 1995 season and he doesn't even make the all-star team in the East. He's not beating out Shaq, Ewing nor Mourning. MAYBE, he could make the West squad because he might have a chance to beat out Mutumbo. BUT he'd still be a distant 3rd behind Olajuwon and Robinson.

[The 24th Letter]

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Well Dwight doesnt have Ewing or Shaqs talent, those are two HOFs, so I don't know that its saying anything to put them ahead of him in the ASG.

As far as Zo, they pretty much got their points the same way.....I could definitely see him out performing Zo

[DonkeyJote]

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Dwight needs more shots to get those kind of numbers. Shaq in his prime tooke between 18 and 20 shots a game. Dwight takes less than 14. If he could take 5 more shots a game, he's probably up to 27 ppg. And if he wasn't having a career low in FT %, there's another ppg. I don't think it's unrealistic for Dwight to be a 28 ppg scorer. I think the ability is there. But for whatever reason, when you watch the Magic, they don't really go through him. His offense has come a long way, and he's got some pretty impressive post moves now.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

If he wasn't a piss poor FT shooter, he could definitely average 28 PPG, even if he was getting the same amount of touches he gets now.

[PrettyT11]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

He would still need more shots to average 28 a night. Even if he was Mark Price from the line that would still only put him at 25 a night. It's damn near impossible to average 28 a game with only 14 shots a night and that even with attempting 10 free throws a game.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

How many more touches would he need to get 7 pts per quarter though?

[King_B_Mack]

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He would still need more shots to average 28 a night. Even if he was Mark Price from the line that would still only put him at 25 a night. It's damn near impossible to average 28 a game with only 14 shots a night and that even with attempting 10 free throws a game.

Dwight Howard game log for 2012

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwight_howard/game_by_game_stats.html

Some numbers that stand out.

28 pts 11/16 6/10 FT
23 pts 8/14 7/10 FT
22 pts 9/16 4/10 FT
24 pts 9/13 6/18 FT
30 pts 11/14 8/12 FT
28 pts 11/17 6/14 FT
26 pts 8/12 10/14 FT

He most certainly could average 28 without more shots. He's gotta get his *** in gear at the free throw line however.

[PrettyT11]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

Dwight Howard game log for 2012

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwight_howard/game_by_game_stats.html

Some numbers that stand out.

28 pts 11/16 6/10 FT
23 pts 8/14 7/10 FT
22 pts 9/16 4/10 FT
24 pts 9/13 6/18 FT
30 pts 11/14 8/12 FT
28 pts 11/17 6/14 FT
26 pts 8/12 10/14 FT

He most certainly could average 28 without more shots. He's gotta get his *** in gear at the free throw line however.

Come on man you are hand picking examples of games. Even in these hand picked games he shot an out of this world 66 percent. There is no way he is doing that for a whole season. It's just not mathematically possible for him to average 28 a night on 14 shots and 10 free throws unless you want him to break all types of records. He already shoots 60 percent from the field so even if he went 9 for 10 from the line that would only put him at around 25 a night.

Even in these hand picked games he was under 28 he was at 25. He shot an out of this world 66 percent from the field and 53 from the line. Even if he made 10 more free throws and upped that free throw percentage to 65 he still would only be at 27. So even then he would have to have the highest FG percentage of the last 30 years and the fourth highest ever just to get to 27 a night on those few of shots. That is even with him shooting 65 percent from the line. It's just not possible without more shots.

Just to throw it out there Charles Barkley is the only player in NBA history to average 28 a night on less than 18 shots a game. Even then he got over 16 a night and shot over 75 percent from the line.