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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47565

    #16
    Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

    Oh all the guys on that team thought... I've always loved Haslem since his Gator days. He just so consistent. Too bad for the Heat.
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    • luv_mist
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      • May 2004
      • 9596

      #17
      Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

      Wow!! Torn is definitely not good. How much is he getting paid in total? Can not see them winning more than one championship when they are paper thin in reserves and their front line is not the healthiest team in the league. As said before though, if Haslem is the make or break of this team, then they were doomed from the pre-championship parade. LOL!!

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      • King_B_Mack
        All Star
        • Jan 2009
        • 24450

        #18
        Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

        The ghost of Dennis Rodman strikes. Blame Van Gundy for this one Heat fans all two of you. Maybe they'll get the record next year...maybe not.

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        • amedawg00
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          • Jan 2008
          • 2884

          #19
          Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

          Was Dan Gilbert prophetic when he said King James would take the curse with him to South Beach?....
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          • Eman5805
            MVP
            • Mar 2009
            • 3545

            #20
            Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

            It speaks volumes when the loss of Udonis Haslem is met with this kind of response on the "title contending" Heat. I mean, he's a good player, but he's Kurt Thomas 7 years ago.

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            • HMcCoy
              All Star
              • Jan 2003
              • 8212

              #21
              Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

              Originally posted by amedawg00
              Was Dan Gilbert prophetic when he said King James would take the curse with him to South Beach?....
              The Browns are looking a lot better, lmao.
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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #22
                Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                Originally posted by Eman5805
                It speaks volumes when the loss of Udonis Haslem is met with this kind of response on the "title contending" Heat. I mean, he's a good player, but he's Kurt Thomas 7 years ago.
                What do you mean by this?

                Are people saying they're not a title contender anymore?

                Basically it just sucks for their cohesion. First off they have had none all year due to Wade/Miller already being banged up and missing games. Due to everyone not seeming comfortable with their roles on the floor, especially offensively.

                Now you have your best interior defender/rebounder out for a long time?

                That isn't good considering they're a brand new team whom have never played with one another. That can adversely affect you in the playoffs believe it or not.

                With that said, again explain what you speak of when you state "it speaks volumes when the loss of Haslem is met with this kind of response".

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                • Eman5805
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3545

                  #23
                  Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                  They were crowned immediately by a bunch of people out there. First thing I said (not here) was what are they gonna do when Bron Bron and Wade aren't in the game? That their bench was crummy with no depth besides a bunch of shooters and the tree himself Ilgauskus.

                  And I respect Haslem's game, but HE'S their best interior defender and rebounder, a 6'8" on a good day PF? Not their starting center? Not their "superstar" PF? That's not good. He should at best be a key bench player, but not their best anything.

                  That's like me when I said that Pops Mensah-Bonsu was going to factor into giving my Hornets something off the bench *headdesk*. That may be true, but it isn't a good thing big picture wise.

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #24
                    Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                    Originally posted by Eman5805
                    They were crowned immediately by a bunch of people out there. First thing I said (not here) was what are they gonna do when Bron Bron and Wade aren't in the game? That their bench was crummy with no depth besides a bunch of shooters and the tree himself Ilgauskus.

                    And I respect Haslem's game, but HE'S their best interior defender and rebounder, a 6'8" on a good day PF? Not their starting center? Not their "superstar" PF? That's not good. He should at best be a key bench player, but not their best anything.

                    That's like me when I said that Pops Mensah-Bonsu was going to factor into giving my Hornets something off the bench *headdesk*. That may be true, but it isn't a good thing big picture wise.
                    OK everything you said was true but it didn't do anything to answer my original question.

                    I don't think anyone is throwing their season in the trash just yet... although like I said things aren't looking even just average right now, things look bad no doubt.

                    It's not just the fact that Haslem is out, it's the fact that they were already thin on interior players to begin with, in fact they're thin in general. Miller is out for a while. Wade is probably playing injured.

                    It's a combination of things and Haslem now needing surgery is just the cherry on top of it all. But once again, they'll still have a chance around March to finally get healthy.. but it may be too late to build any sort of championship level chemistry... we'll see.

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                    • Eman5805
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3545

                      #25
                      Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                      Fair enough. But, imo, even with Mike Miller, he really just gives them another 3pt shooter. They've got enough of those I think.

                      They're still going to win a bunch of games, to be sure. But it'll be interesting to see how they respond to this. And though Wade continues to be one of my favorite players, he's not very durable. Already got a banged up wrist. Long term, this could put them in weird spaces when that trade deadline gets close.

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                      • Bornindamecca
                        Books Nelson Simnation
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 10919

                        #26
                        Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        OK everything you said was true but it didn't do anything to answer my original question.

                        I don't think anyone is throwing their season in the trash just yet... although like I said things aren't looking even just average right now, things look bad no doubt.

                        It's not just the fact that Haslem is out, it's the fact that they were already thin on interior players to begin with, in fact they're thin in general. Miller is out for a while. Wade is probably playing injured.

                        It's a combination of things and Haslem now needing surgery is just the cherry on top of it all. But once again, they'll still have a chance around March to finally get healthy.. but it may be too late to build any sort of championship level chemistry... we'll see.
                        If healthy around playoff time, this team has the talent to be a factor no matter what, but it's worth mentioning that losing home court advantage is going to make that much more difficult. The way they are going, they may only have home court for the first round. That's not good. Means longer series than necessary and a chance that nagging injuries will get aggravated, since they are already picking up injuries that will be healing in January.

                        There's no ***** comments to be made. The people who thought that Wade and Bron are too similar were correct. Not in the sense that it can't work, but if you take the money they spent on Bron and give it to higher paid more effective roleplayers, you might make a more well rounded team. I think having two ballhandlers is terrible for Bosh, who needs a constant diet of the basketball to reach max effectiveness.

                        I think they will right the ship in the regular season, but I don't know if this team can survive an A class team that packs the paint on them. Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem absolutely must be healthy come playoff time.
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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #27
                          Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                          The more and more I see the less and less I like.

                          The pieces just don't look like they fit.. it's like square pegs into round holes.

                          I don't know what the hell is up with the situation regarding Chalmers, I feel like his jumper could help them out.. because Carlos isn't allowed to play to his strengths. He is not an off-ball type guard at all, which is what he's being forced into.

                          Bosh isn't anywhere close to an anchor on the interior, on either side of the floor. That might not change but it could. He's showing signs of life lately.

                          Wade/Bron don't have the types of games where if you leave them open from the perimeter they're gonna make you pay every time.

                          They will absolutely finish with a solid regular season record assuming they're healthy.. but when the playoffs hit... yikes.

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                          • Altimus
                            Chelsea, Assemble!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 27283

                            #28
                            Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                            I don't see how this team succeeds under Spoelstra. No heart, no dedication on either end. Tonight I saw both LBJ and Wade look at Spo and shake their heads. LBJ with his constant lets have fun talk instead of work. I don't know, Wade expressed his issues with Spo last year and it seems despite the player upgrade nothing has changed. Tonight I saw an Atlanta Hawks performance from the Playoffs against the Magic. Zero hustle, dedication, and heart and all ISO.

                            As Born mentioned, Haslem and Miller HAVE to be healthy in the Playoffs. Even with that they will still have problems. Absolutely zero post presence and no one at point to play solid defense. They can make it work but right now I see no desire to do so.

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                            • Dewie12
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 787

                              #29
                              Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                              That's a big loss for them.
                              I don't really know if it is.

                              They need to play LeBron at the 4 more.

                              Haslem isn't a good fit with LeBron. His range isn't as deep as Z's so he doesn't spread the floor. haslem's mid range shot used to be at the Free throw line elbows. They don't run the same game with LeBron so he isn't getting that same shot. Plus you would rather have Bosh taking it anyway.

                              Haslem is overrated as a defender. He is just too undersized to guard centers straight up and he doesn't protect the rim. Great hustle and heart but isn't going to help rebound when he has to box out the most physical guy on the other team (he would be much better served chasing the ball).

                              I like him as a player. Just not with this current team. You cannot play Bosh and Haslem together without getting destroyed inside.

                              I am not so sure this will hurt them that much. They have a lot of problems already. Haslem just isn't a good fit with this team. He doesn't really bring them anything that other players can't do better.

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #30
                                Re: Haslem out, possibly for a significant part of the regular season

                                Originally posted by Dewie12
                                I don't really know if it is.

                                They need to play LeBron at the 4 more.

                                Haslem isn't a good fit with LeBron. His range isn't as deep as Z's so he doesn't spread the floor. haslem's mid range shot used to be at the Free throw line elbows. They don't run the same game with LeBron so he isn't getting that same shot. Plus you would rather have Bosh taking it anyway.

                                Haslem is overrated as a defender. He is just too undersized to guard centers straight up and he doesn't protect the rim. Great hustle and heart but isn't going to help rebound when he has to box out the most physical guy on the other team (he would be much better served chasing the ball).

                                I like him as a player. Just not with this current team. You cannot play Bosh and Haslem together without getting destroyed inside.

                                I am not so sure this will hurt them that much. They have a lot of problems already. Haslem just isn't a good fit with this team. He doesn't really bring them anything that other players can't do better.
                                I don't get it, all your concerns with Haslem and him not fitting and playing he and Bosh on the floor together not working, but your answer is running Bron at the 4 more? Sure Bron is like 6'9, 6'10 but he's still not a guy that's going to get down low and do the dirty work of true 4. Who's going to be at the 5 while he's playing PF? Z? Bosh? How do they avoid getting destroyed inside anyway like that? LeBron is a chase down shot blocker, not a guy who's going to block shots in the interior and how many guys is he really going to box out? He was content on standing around watching guys attack the basket tonight against the Pacers. I dunno, I just don't see how playing Bron at the 4 more often is any kind of solution to they're issues right now.

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