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  • Lynsanity
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 462

    #46
    Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

    AS sad as it is, I would rather watch the former stars from the 80's-90's in a weekly OLD MAN league than to watch most of the teams now.

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    • capp34
      MVP
      • Mar 2007
      • 1313

      #47
      Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

      A problem I see is that people are beginning to care more about the soap opera than the game. When more people tune in to watch the ''decision'' rather than a playoff game its a problem.
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      • sportyguyfl31
        MVP
        • Nov 2005
        • 4745

        #48
        Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

        I agree with the sentiments that the "modern" (Post 1980) athlete hasnt changed in 30 years.

        They, first and foremost, want to get paid and be in comfortable situations.


        Before Jordan was the guy sporting immaculate custom fitted suits, he was viewed as a punk kid, wearing baggy Nike sweats and gold chains to press conference. He used to threaten retirement if the team was interested in acquiring a player he didn't like

        The "Larry Bird Rule" exists because Larry wanted to get paid, and the Celtics wanted to pay him. Both for winning and box office purposes.

        Magic threw coaches under the bus and extorted a 10 year contract out of the Lakers.

        Isiah was an absolute creep of a human being.

        Still, there is something different about this generation of NBA player (and all pro athletes).

        These kids come into the league with a sense of entitlement now.

        Being a UCONN alum, I'll use my favorite NBA whipping boy, and least favorite UCONN Husky of all time: Rudy Gay.

        Dude spent his entire college career playing at half speed, played no defense and living off of his AAU reputation.

        Despite doing nothing noteworthy at UCONN, and playing like a dog in every crunch time game he played in, he becomes a high lottery pick due to his great "upside"

        He spends the next 5 years, playing at 75% of his potential, throwing down just enough vicious dunks in traffic, and 25 foot jumpers, to seduce you, and gets rewarded with a toxic, poison pill, max contract.

        That's the single biggest thing that has killed the NBA.
        Last edited by sportyguyfl31; 01-19-2011, 04:56 PM.

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        • ehh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 28962

          #49
          Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

          SFL please don't bring up Rudy's college career. I don't need a reminder of that BS.
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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #50
            Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

            Originally posted by TheMatrix31
            Another unsung problem is that fans are becoming increasingly dumber.
            And short sighted.
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            • muggins
              It is now the SW Era
              • May 2003
              • 5379

              #51
              Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

              I'm a hardcore NFL guy who has always casually watched NBA, and I'm getting into it more and more this season with the Pistons (hometown team). They're not the greatest, obviously, but I've been watching games and enjoying the young players and reading PistonPowered and Need4Sheed blogs.

              One thing I don't get is the "too many teams" and watered down argument. There are what, 30 teams? And 5 starters on each team, a 6th man, and other dudes who play? (15 guys on the roster). How can 30 teams with only 15 guys on them be watered down, especially when there are so many dudes in NCAA basketball?

              I'm not making an argument, I'd just like to understand better. The NBA as a business baffles me... guaranteed and max contracts and all that, the whole "decision" and how it allowed the Heat to stack their team...

              edit: And I have to say, the NBA has been pretty interesting to me this year. Even with the Heat players doing what they did.
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              • TexasBorn1
                Pro
                • Aug 2008
                • 798

                #52
                Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                The number of fouls drives me insane. I think Lebron and Wade combined for like 50 Free throw attempts the other night...

                It gets tired watching a guy just barrel into the lane and getting a call when someone so much as breathes on him

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                • BATMON
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1445

                  #53
                  Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                  Originally posted by muggins
                  One thing I don't get is the "too many teams" and watered down argument. There are what, 30 teams? And 5 starters on each team, a 6th man, and other dudes who play? (15 guys on the roster). How can 30 teams with only 15 guys on them be watered down, especially when there are so many dudes in NCAA basketball?
                  The Vancouver Grizzlies and Toronto Raptors should have never been allowed into the L.

                  By this point its already a done deal. But back then 2 teams drafted from the other teams to create the rosters.

                  The Grizzlies are now a decent team in Memphis. The Raptors have smelled some success but never seem to string together any good luck.

                  Expansion is going to "water-down" product. I think they could have tightened the product they already have, but chose to place some role players and gambling draft picks in Canada and make money. Those players should have been going to the franchises that needed help, not NEW ones...IMO.

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                  • BATMON
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1445

                    #54
                    Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                    Originally posted by TexasBorn1
                    It gets tired watching a guy just barrel into the lane and getting a call when someone so much as breathes on him
                    Like Jordan?

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                    • TexasBorn1
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 798

                      #55
                      Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                      Originally posted by BATMON
                      Like Jordan?
                      I guess? I don't know I'm only 18 so I haven't started following the NBA until recently. If that has always been a problem then its too bad.

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #56
                        Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                        Originally posted by muggins
                        One thing I don't get is the "too many teams" and watered down argument. There are what, 30 teams? And 5 starters on each team, a 6th man, and other dudes who play? (15 guys on the roster). How can 30 teams with only 15 guys on them be watered down, especially when there are so many dudes in NCAA basketball?
                        Because the jump from college ball to the NBA is about equal to the jump from HS ball to college. A lot of really good DI guys are too short, too slow, not skilled enough, etc to hack it in the NBA.
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                        • cubsball899
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1744

                          #57
                          Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          Because the jump from college ball to the NBA is about equal to the jump from HS ball to college. A lot of really good DI guys are too short, too slow, not skilled enough, etc to hack it in the NBA.
                          and a lot jump to the NBA after 1 year of college before they learn how to play.

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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #58
                            Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                            I hate the refs... It is never consistent as college basketball.
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                            • Vast
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 4015

                              #59
                              Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                              Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                              I agree with the sentiments that the "modern" (Post 1980) athlete hasnt changed in 30 years.

                              They, first and foremost, want to get paid and be in comfortable situations.


                              Before Jordan was the guy sporting immaculate custom fitted suits, he was viewed as a punk kid, wearing baggy Nike sweats and gold chains to press conference. He used to threaten retirement if the team was interested in acquiring a player he didn't like

                              The "Larry Bird Rule" exists because Larry wanted to get paid, and the Celtics wanted to pay him. Both for winning and box office purposes.

                              Magic threw coaches under the bus and extorted a 10 year contract out of the Lakers.

                              Isiah was an absolute creep of a human being.

                              Still, there is something different about this generation of NBA player (and all pro athletes).

                              These kids come into the league with a sense of entitlement now.

                              Being a UCONN alum, I'll use my favorite NBA whipping boy, and least favorite UCONN Husky of all time: Rudy Gay.

                              Dude spent his entire college career playing at half speed, played no defense and living off of his AAU reputation.

                              Despite doing nothing noteworthy at UCONN, and playing like a dog in every crunch time game he played in, he becomes a high lottery pick due to his great "upside"
                              He spends the next 5 years, playing at 75% of his potential, throwing down just enough vicious dunks in traffic, and 25 foot jumpers, to seduce you, and gets rewarded with a toxic, poison pill, max contract.

                              That's the single biggest thing that has killed the NBA.
                              Wow. I did not know that. Thats terrible. He's definitely a decent pro tho. So I guess the scouts were right.

                              The NBA needs to do something about these Refs. Pay them more and start judging them and fining them the same way they do the players.
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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #60
                                Re: The reason why I think the NBA is failing for me

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                I hate the refs... It is never consistent as college basketball.
                                True, but NBA refs are an F and college refs are a D-.
                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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