The worst pick up players.

[ehh]

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I usually see this pop up a couple times a year and I've never really sweated it, mostly because it's most often implemented as a half-baked desperation move for teams trying to take shortcuts on defense. Usually ends up looking like the type of 2-3 your coach would make your entire team run sprints all practice for on account of lack of effort and execution. Gaps everywhere, zero boxing out, awful rebounding, lots of standing around, etc.

I guess it depends on who you're playing with. The downside is that enough knuckleheads I team up with haven't the slightest idea on how to beat a zone, plus ball movement is usually a rare thing at most of the run I find. They still try to take turns isoing even though there are two defenders at the elbow and there are zero driving lanes. That or they do nothing but jack up threes since a defender isn't pressuring them right away. There is inevitably one guy on my team who thinks a 2-3 zone is his license to not pass the ball the entire game.

[The 24th Letter]

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[VDusen04]

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A little extra momentum and lean here on account of trotting into this one so I'm not sure I'd say textbook but.... normal?

[jfsolo]

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high reach for me

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Can’t see what 24 posted, what is it?

[cima]

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Had my first "I'm getting washed" moment.

32, almost 33 years old now...haven't played even half-court since I was probably 29 or 30. I'm about 20 lbs heavier now and not in a good way.

I'm short and big, built like a linebacker but only like 5'10"ish in shoes. But I was a point guard and a shooter before I ever got big, so I use that to my advantage cause people look at me and just think I'm that guy who played football and was athletic but uncoordinated. So I always played a lot on the baseline backing guys down and had perfected the spin to the baseline for the easy layup. Well when I tried that 2x this past Sunday, the first time the ball stayed and I went to the floor, lol...and the second time I dribbled the ball off my feet.

So then I decided just to go back to bully-ball cause I never would come across anyone that could match my strength (guess who inspired that part of my game?). So I was getting through or past guys every time but then that's when I discovered I don't have the same lift anymore...and I must've missed 6-7 layups. It was horrendous.

It was definitely an eye-opening experience...in warmups I was shooting like I had never stopped and felt good but man once I played an actual 4v4 halfcourt game...humbled to say the least. This aging stuff sucks!

[VDusen04]

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Can’t see what 24 posted, what is it?

It's a graphic asking what kind of shooting form we have (textbook vs. flat vs. elbow out vs. elbow in vs. high release, etc.)

Had my first "I'm getting washed" moment.

32, almost 33 years old now...haven't played even half-court since I was probably 29 or 30. I'm about 20 lbs heavier now and not in a good way.

I'm short and big, built like a linebacker but only like 5'10"ish in shoes. But I was a point guard and a shooter before I ever got big, so I use that to my advantage cause people look at me and just think I'm that guy who played football and was athletic but uncoordinated. So I always played a lot on the baseline backing guys down and had perfected the spin to the baseline for the easy layup. Well when I tried that 2x this past Sunday, the first time the ball stayed and I went to the floor, lol...and the second time I dribbled the ball off my feet.

So then I decided just to go back to bully-ball cause I never would come across anyone that could match my strength (guess who inspired that part of my game?). So I was getting through or past guys every time but then that's when I discovered I don't have the same lift anymore...and I must've missed 6-7 layups. It was horrendous.

It was definitely an eye-opening experience...in warmups I was shooting like I had never stopped and felt good but man once I played an actual 4v4 halfcourt game...humbled to say the least. This aging stuff sucks!

Yeah, that's just one of those things. Though, you've still got plenty of time if you want there to be. Even someone in their late teens or early 20's would have some flat-footed struggles the first time they played competitively in three years. I've had moments like that when returning from injury. It's possible to still work back into a relatively familiar groove.

If it helps, I've played against plenty of dudes in their 40's and 50's over the years and while most of them weren't what they were when they were 23, a lot were still out there getting it and making good things happen.

[ehh]

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Switching from "textbook/elbow-in" to "elbow out" in my mid-20s was the best decision I ever made as a shooter. There is an awesome book I found on the science of shooting--I can never find the damn thing these days--that explained and sold me on having my elbow out. It broke down the form of many great NBA shooters and every single one of them had their elbow out, even guys who claimed they were "elbow-in" shooters.

My stroke became smoother and more consistent. It's not that far out--more Ray Allen than Reggie Miller--but it feels so much more natural than making sure my elbow is tucked in directly under the ball. I also never short-arm a shot with my elbow out. It'd happen often enough when I tucked in my eblow. I also think it's much easier to have a consistent shot pocket because it feels more natural when your elbow is out a little bit.

[tru11]

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text book out for me going tony allen most of the time lol

[jeremym480]

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Had my first "I'm getting washed" moment.

32, almost 33 years old now...haven't played even half-court since I was probably 29 or 30. I'm about 20 lbs heavier now and not in a good way.

I'm short and big, built like a linebacker but only like 5'10"ish in shoes. But I was a point guard and a shooter before I ever got big, so I use that to my advantage cause people look at me and just think I'm that guy who played football and was athletic but uncoordinated. So I always played a lot on the baseline backing guys down and had perfected the spin to the baseline for the easy layup. Well when I tried that 2x this past Sunday, the first time the ball stayed and I went to the floor, lol...and the second time I dribbled the ball off my feet.

So then I decided just to go back to bully-ball cause I never would come across anyone that could match my strength (guess who inspired that part of my game?). So I was getting through or past guys every time but then that's when I discovered I don't have the same lift anymore...and I must've missed 6-7 layups. It was horrendous.

It was definitely an eye-opening experience...in warmups I was shooting like I had never stopped and felt good but man once I played an actual 4v4 halfcourt game...humbled to say the least. This aging stuff sucks!

I hate to say it but if you think it's bad at 32 just wait another few years.

I'm about to turn 40 and still play quite a bit. My job built us a gym with a basketball court a few years ago. Which is great but the bad thing is that there's only a handful of us old guys left. The rest is pretty much interns who come in, get trained, then go out in the field, rinse and repeat. So I'm like Matthew McConaughey in Dazed and Confused when he said "That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age." just insert 21-25 year-old interns in the place of high school girls

Not to mention, if I ever do take a few weeks off its hell get back into playing shape.... and with every passing year getting the weight off just gets harder and harder. At 32 if I wanted to bust down 20 pounds, I pretty much could without much effort.... At 39, not so much.

[The 24th Letter]

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The PG4's are around $60-70 depending on the colorway at Finish Line. Ya'll know how I feel about PG's.

Best Bball shoe on the market IMO. (I know most of us aren't playing ball right now lol)

I'd get them a half size up though.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Are they on sale or something because his shoes usually go for $110??

Depending on the colorway, I might have to jump on that deal...

[The 24th Letter]

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Are they on sale or something because his shoes usually go for $110??

Depending on the colorway, I might have to jump on that deal...

They've been on/off sale the last couple of weeks, not sure why, but its a good look. The white/black colorway is $60. I have them.

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[TMagic]

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The PG4's are around $60-70 depending on the colorway at Finish Line. Ya'll know how I feel about PG's.

Best Bball shoe on the market IMO. (I know most of us aren't playing ball right now lol)

I'd get them a half size up though.

You hold that opinion for his entire collection? Or just the 4s? [emoji848]

[The 24th Letter]

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You hold that opinion for his entire collection? Or just the 4s? [emoji848]

Whole collection is solid IMO. Can't go wrong 1-4. The post- Zion incident PGs tend to be a little bit more snug.

The 3's are my personal favorite though.