Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Sure they have been winning without Perk, it's the regular season.

Lakers won fine without Andrew in the regular season, but without him in the playoffs there is serious doubt as to whether or not they could win a title.

I look at Boston in the same light except to a lesser extent.

Wwharton continues to state how "overrated overstated" Perkins is, but any bball head knows he was the anchor in the middle, and the combo of he and KG created a two-headed monster defensively, a crazy good defensive dynamic on the interior. They worked perfectly in sync. Good luck having to depend on undersiezed Baby and old Shaq and defenseless Kristic and broken Jermaine...

I still have faith in Boston but to just throw Kendrick aside in the manner Wwharton is doing is pretty crazy.

[jeebs9]

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^^But I agree^^

(Everyone keeps saying Kendrick... It's funny because that is my actual name lol (without the D)

I can't remember any Center like Kendrick that can come out and hegde on pick and rolls and be a defensive presense in shot blocking. And plus he just one of those guys you wouldn't **** with.

[wwharton]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Sure they have been winning without Perk, it's the regular season.

Lakers won fine without Andrew in the regular season, but without him in the playoffs there is serious doubt as to whether or not they could win a title.

I look at Boston in the same light except to a lesser extent.

Wwharton continues to state how "overrated overstated" Perkins is, but any bball head knows he was the anchor in the middle, and the combo of he and KG created a two-headed monster defensively, a crazy good defensive dynamic on the interior. They worked perfectly in sync. Good luck having to depend on undersiezed Baby and old Shaq and defenseless Kristic and broken Jermaine...

I still have faith in Boston but to just throw Kendrick aside in the manner Wwharton is doing is pretty crazy.

I've been involved in organized basketball playing, coaching, working at camps, personal training, etc. for about 25 years. I'd hope I qualify as a "bball head". What he is, was and always will be is a role player. A big body not afraid to mix it up for sure... he's not just a stiff out there by any means. But the romantic stories of him being the anchor of a team with 4 all stars around him is a bit much. Garnett is the defensive pulse of that team, and Doc has prepared them to play incredible team defense. Perkins is a good fit for playing next to Garnett and for the overall team philosophy but he's still just a guy. If there wasn't a threat of Shaq getting hurt or gassed, Perkins would be an after thought in the playoffs. I wouldn't go as far as saying anybody can play that spot but this isn't like the talk of Rondo deserving the credit he gets. Perkins' role can be replaced by one or more players... and even if the cohesion with the rest of the team or the toughness isn't fully replaced, the heart of that team will still be just fine.

Even if you want to poo poo the regular season (which doesn't make sense either), they weren't exactly push overs without him in the finals last year with half the big bodies they have to work with without him this year.

[Dice]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Why is all this sounding like the Melo for Joakim Noah discussion that was taking place in the Carmelo Anthony thread right before the season started?

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I've been involved in organized basketball playing, coaching, working at camps, personal training, etc. for about 25 years. I'd hope I qualify as a "bball head". What he is, was and always will be is a role player. A big body not afraid to mix it up for sure... he's not just a stiff out there by any means. But the romantic stories of him being the anchor of a team with 4 all stars around him is a bit much. Garnett is the defensive pulse of that team, and Doc has prepared them to play incredible team defense. Perkins is a good fit for playing next to Garnett and for the overall team philosophy but he's still just a guy. If there wasn't a threat of Shaq getting hurt or gassed, Perkins would be an after thought in the playoffs. I wouldn't go as far as saying anybody can play that spot but this isn't like the talk of Rondo deserving the credit he gets. Perkins' role can be replaced by one or more players... and even if the cohesion with the rest of the team or the toughness isn't fully replaced, the heart of that team will still be just fine.

Even if you want to poo poo the regular season (which doesn't make sense either), they weren't exactly push overs without him in the finals last year with half the big bodies they have to work with without him this year.

Agreed completely....

You would think Boston was on the brink of collapse and Perk was the glue holding them together. His role was a great one indeed, but I think Boston will be fine.

You also gain another dynamic to Bostons game on offense...a SF\PF, and C who can both step out and knock down Js...which may help Boston through those little slumps they go through when they go into their rotation..

[wwharton]

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Agreed completely....

You would think Boston was on the brink of collapse and Perk was the glue holding them together. His role was a great one indeed, but I think Boston will be fine.

You also gain another dynamic to Bostons game on offense...a SF\PF, and C who can both step out and knock down Js...which may help Boston through those little slumps they go through when they go into their rotation..

I didn't want to even touch on the "merits" of Kristic b/c I knew I'd get hammered for going against the Perkins grain, but that is something that shouldn't be ignored. Kristic is a solid big man. He can't be Perkins but he does bring things to the table that Perkins couldn't also. I'd rather have a 100% healthy Perkins of course, but not so sure I wouldn't rather have Kristic and Green on that team than a potentialy injury prone and less than 100% Perkins who's threatening to test the FA market if I don't break the bank on him.

Also found it interesting that Nate says Perkins is taking it really hard, crying and reminiscing. If that's genuine then it sounds like Ainge called his bluff. If the team was so important to him then he shouldn't have been throwing around empty threats.

[23]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

He might have cried but again, he had an extension put before him by management and he rejected it. With the coming CBA, im not sure what he is expecting.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

He might have cried but again, he had an extension put before him by management and he rejected it. With the coming CBA, im not sure what he is expecting.

sounds like he got Ariza'd

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Leon Powe & Troy Murphy are enough for a championship.

Here is to hoping Shaq stays healthy through the playoffs.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Agreed completely....

You would think Boston was on the brink of collapse and Perk was the glue holding them together. His role was a great one indeed, but I think Boston will be fine.

You also gain another dynamic to Bostons game on offense...a SF\PF, and C who can both step out and knock down Js...which may help Boston through those little slumps they go through when they go into their rotation..

Some of you guys sure have a way of taking words and twisting them

What part of "they are still the favorite no question" translates into "you would think Boston was on the brink of collapse and Perk was the glue"?



Stop it.

[The 24th Letter]

Pick a sentence out of the reply, note that you didnt say exactly those words, then make charges of twisting words. Rinse and repeat.

Yeah, you stop it. lmao.

My post wasnt even toward you actually...just pointing out how overblown I think Perkins value is...

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

You're right, it was a previous post where I said it. Regardless, what part of "I still have faith in Boston" translates into anything you said in your post? It might not have been to me, but you quoted Wwharton who was replying to me.. so yeah.

Outside of a few crazy posts, generally speaking in this thread nobody was saying Boston is done. So it still seems like you were twisting.

Hehe, true.

And also, Boston is still the class of the East, no question.

Sure they have been winning without Perk, it's the regular season.

Lakers won fine without Andrew in the regular season, but without him in the playoffs there is serious doubt as to whether or not they could win a title.

I look at Boston in the same light except to a lesser extent.

Wwharton continues to state how "overrated overstated" Perkins is, but any bball head knows he was the anchor in the middle, and the combo of he and KG created a two-headed monster defensively, a crazy good defensive dynamic on the interior. They worked perfectly in sync. Good luck having to depend on undersiezed Baby and old Shaq and defenseless Kristic and broken Jermaine...

I still have faith in Boston but to just throw Kendrick aside in the manner Wwharton is doing is pretty crazy.

[wwharton]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

sounds like he got Ariza'd

Pretty much. May be harsh but I have no sympathy for players that overestimate their monetary value (and I think everyone would agree that Perkins was doing that here).

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I bet he won't see 4 years 22 million after the next CBA agreement gets done..

Tough to say since nobody knows what will go on with the new CBA. I see both sides of the issue really, I mean he's worth more than that... but also I won't feel bad if he doesn't see that money after the new CBA. I don't blame him at all though.

sounds like he got Ariza'd

Except Ariza got exactly what he deserved, and also that story was never official one way or the other. Nobody knows the truth about Trevor.

Pretty much. May be harsh but I have no sympathy for players that overestimate their monetary value (and I think everyone would agree that Perkins was doing that here).

Well like I said I see both sides. When you look around at who got what recently.... I mean jesus. I still won't feel bad for him if he doesn't see that money next year but at the same time I can't say he overestimated his value at all.

[The 24th Letter]

You're right, it was a previous post where I said it. Regardless, what part of "I still have faith in Boston" translates into anything you said in your post? It might not have been to me, but you quoted Wwharton who was replying to me.. so yeah.

Outside of a few crazy posts, generally speaking in this thread nobody was saying Boston is done. So it still seems like you were twisting.

Twisting what? how I feel? lol

Yes, I think Perkins value is being overblown...and yes, I feel like the C's are still serious contenders...the vibe on and off the site has been negative as far as the future of the C's

Do I think you personally said they were not? nope...ive read all the posts you quoted before..and you made that perfectly clear...if you took me quoting someone else as a challenge to that, I dont know what to say..wasnt my intention