Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

[MeLLyMeL]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I feel sorry for the dude, getting traded at the very last minutes of the deadline without even knowing it was coming. These GM's can be really shady sometimes!

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Twisting what? how I feel? lol

Yes, I think Perkins value is being overblown...and yes, I feel like the C's are still serious contenders...the vibe on and off the site has been negative as far as the future of the C's

Do I think you personally said they were not? nope...ive read all the posts you quoted before..and you made that perfectly clear...if you took me quoting someone else as a challenge to that, I dont know what to say..wasnt my intention

Twisting people's words into "you would think Boston was on the brink of collapsing and Perk was the glue".

You really got all that from the general consensus of the thread?

I sure didn't, but that's what I was referring to.

BTW Jeff Green cannot play C

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Lol.

But yeah, I know Jeff cant play C, if you were referring to my earlier post...I was making reference to Green AND Kristic..

having a decent mid range shooter at C is a dynamic we havent seen from Boston yet...

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I am just weary of how Green will fit. I know he played with Westbrook and Durant, so he should be used to getting less shots... now he'll be competing with Ray/PP/KG for attempts. I'm not sure how that will effect his game. Green has always had pretty much free reign to shoot as he pleased in OKC as the third wheel even though the other two took most of the attempts.

We will see how he fares in probably less attempts in Boston. We will see if he can fit into what they need him to be...

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I'll flat out say it, since people aren't willing to see it:

Boston will never win a title with the big three again. Perkins was a massive reason why they didn't win last year and without him for...well, ever and the eastern conference getting better and better, I think their window closed.

They'll make the playoffs, but they probably won't win the ECF again.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Doc thinks he can be their James Posey as far as a big body spreading the floor...

Im pretty sure he didnt mean defense...lol

But well see, hopefully he talkes his new role in stride....buy in the Celtic way

[BATMON]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Green will be fine with the second unit. He's not Perks replacement.

[Altimus]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I'll flat out say it, since people aren't willing to see it:

Boston will never win a title with the big three again. Perkins was a massive reason why they didn't win last year and without him for...well, ever and the eastern conference getting better and better, I think their window closed.

They'll make the playoffs, but they probably won't win the ECF again.

Losing game 7 had little to nothing to do with Perkins.

We'll see how this will play out but perhaps Perkins is being overvalued right now.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I think OSU wasn't really using Perk as the main reason for his claim though.

It more seemed like he just thinks their window was closed to begin with.

I honestly don't know how he can say they probably won't win the ECF's though, I'm not ready to even suggest that yet.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Yeah I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that they aren't the same lock that they were before this. As for his worth in game 7, playoff basketball, especially a that stage of the game is all about defense and rebounding. Having over 30 rebounds between Gasol and Kobe in a defensive struggle of a game like that is huge. Second chance points are killer. If you're giving them up the other team is likely killing you and if you can keep the possesion alive snatching down the board in a game where the defenses are making dudes work they're asses off, that's huge. But whatever let's continue glossing over that aspect of ball for the Carmelos of the world cause they're good at putting the ball in the basket.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I think OSU wasn't really using Perk as the main reason for his claim though.

It more seemed like he just thinks their window was closed to begin with.

I honestly don't know how he can say they probably won't win the ECF's though, I'm not ready to even suggest that yet.

It's a little mix of both.

If they are depending on Shaq to guard Duhwight and Noah, then the Celtics will be making a quick exit.

[BleacherBum2310]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

I think the Celts are still the favorites to win the East, the Gap is alot closer though. I think this trade hurts them the Most against Orlando.. There aren't that many dominant Centers in the league anyway so I think they'll be fine, Chicago and Miami, I think Garnett could do a good Job on Bosh/Boozer.

I wasn't thrilled w/ this trade but it gives them versatility on the Offensive side of the Ball.. and Who knows Green might be a good defensive player on the Celts.. Ray Allen wasn't the greatest defensive player when he came to Boston a few years ago.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Kendrick Perkins Traded to OKC

Losing game 7 had little to nothing to do with Perkins.

I don't know about that. LA was playing like crap, really bad.... and only back got in the game because they were outrebounding the hell out of Boston. Second chance points got them back in.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Yes I would like to hear the explanation of that statement. Perkins had little to do with them losing game 7? Really?

Here's an interesting article:

Finally, Oklahoma City's two trades carry more than on-court ramifications.

Not only did they bring in talented centres and a good backup guard for expendable pieces; they also opened up some financial flexibility. After restructuring Nick Collison's contract earlier in the season, the Thunder found themselves right at the salary cap line, below it by mere pittance. Their two deals, though, have seen them open up $2,056,512 in cap room that they did not previously have.

This is significant for one simple reason.

Earlier in the season, Boston offered Kenny Perkins a contract extension, which he declined. Perkins said no because the extension that the Celtics offered, whilst the maximum they were allowed to offer under CBA extension rules, was probably lower than what Perkins could corral in the summertime on the open market. But by creating this small amount of cap room, OKC can now offer him a bigger extension than Boston could.

NBA contracts are only renegotiable if

a) they're going upwards, and
b) the team has cap room.

Because teams so rarely have cap room, and because it rarely behooves teams to pay their already-under-contract players more money, it almost ever happens. Indeed, before this season, I could not name you a single occurrence of it happening; it probably has at some point, yet that's a testament to how rare it is.

However, in this modern, sabermetric, MIT-laden internet-era NBA, executives are far more cap creative than they used to be. Therefore, this barely-used strategy has been used twice far already this season. Washington used their leftover cap room to increase Andray Blatche's salary, almost doubling his pay over the final two seasons of his contract and simultaneously tacking on a three year extension. Rather than chancing losing him on the 2012 open market, the team tied him in for five years for a total of $35,730,997, tying down a productive young player for a significant period of time. The Thunder themselves later one-upped this move with a $17.55 million extension for Collison that deliberately, humorously and yet craftily made him the fourth highest paid centre in the world ($13,670,000), behind only Amare Stoudemire ($16,486,611), Dwight Howard ($16,647,180) and Yao Ming ($17,686,100).

By simultaneously acquiring cap space with the underpaid Kenny Perk, OKC can now do a Baltche with him. OKC can use their cap space to renegotiate Perkins's current $4,640,208 salary up to as much $6,696,720. From there, they can concurrently offer a new four year extension totalling a a maximum of $33,818,436, or any number below that that they feel happier with.

Add in the extra negotiated salary, and that's over $35 million for four years that OKC can theoretically offer him, as-near-as-is $9 million per. In contrast, Boston could only offer circa $6 million per. It's a significant difference.

If Perkins thinks he can get that much on the open market, he's wrong. He's not even worth that much, especially with his current injury concerns. Yet if OKC anticipates his return to full health, and wants to tie in the defensive centrepiece that they have thus far lacked during the entire Kevin Durant era without running the risk of him hitting the open market, they can do so right now.

But they'll also have to do so right now.

Because there's a problem.

They only have until March 1st to do it.

So they'd better impress him quickly.

[bigeastbumrush]

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It doesn't push them out of the "Championship conversation" because they were already the conversation in the east without Perkins.

There's not another Eastern power that has a dominant big.

At this point I don't think anyone is looking at Orlando, and getting scared of facing them. I thought the Magic would've excelled, but they've just fizzled.

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