Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

[OSUFan_88]

In the EC Playoff thread, there is a discussion which I think is best served for it's own thread.

Can the "nature" of basketball be changed?

By that, I mean can the inconsistency of the refs be changed or is that what basketball is and we have to learn to accept it?

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

I personally think it can be changed. But it has to come from the top. We've had this discussion before and I personally don't think the penalties are hefty enough for officials who a just consistently bad at they're jobs. I think David Stern protects the referees entirely too much.

I think we're going to have to live with it for the time being cause David Stern is running the show and he's shown that he doesn't have any problems with the refs performances.

[Dice]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

In the EC Playoff thread, there is a discussion which I think is best served for it's own thread.

Can the "nature" of basketball be changed?

By that, I mean can the inconsistency of the refs be changed or is that what basketball is and we have to learn to accept it?

The ref problem has been like that since I started watching basketball in the early 80's. That problem is never going to go away. I've just accepted it and moved on.

[jeebs9]

^^That's what I been trying to get across^^

People think I'm defending it when that's not the case.

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[The 24th Letter]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

Feel the same way as Dice and jeebs.

BUT, there are alot of rules in the NBA that put referees in a position to fail. When those are changed, things will get BETTER, they wont get perfect..

You can bring in whoever you want, human error is going to be there...

even then, claims of big market conspiracy, bias, and the NBA "crumbling" will persist.

[NetSymptom]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

The only thing that can change the "nature" of the game would be an expanded use of the available and future technology.

As long as human error is part of the equation, basketball, football, and all other sports will be effected. Allowing instant replay in more situations would eliminate obvious mis-calls at different levels, which would definitely feel like a new feel to the game in my opinion.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

The only thing that can change the "nature" of the game would be an expanded use of the available and future technology.

As long as human error is part of the equation, basketball, football, and all other sports will be effected. Allowing instant replay in more situations would eliminate obvious mis-calls at different levels, which would definitely feel like a new feel to the game in my opinion.

Yep, it is pretty easy to change it, if they really want to. The technology is in place. If they are worried that it will slow down the game give each team two challenges like the NFL does.

In a sport where the refs play a role more than any other, you would think that the NBA would have led the instant replay charge. Transparency would only help, especially after the Donaghy Conspiracy.

The lockout would be a perfect time to get some real problems fixed. No excuses.

[da ThRONe]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

I would say ofcourse consistancy is achieveable.

[Vast]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

Yep, it is pretty easy to change it, if they really want to. The technology is in place. If they are worried that it will slow down the game give each team two challenges like the NFL does.

In a sport where the refs play a role more than any other, you would think that the NBA would have led the instant replay charge. Transparency would only help, especially after the Donaghy Conspiracy.

The lockout would be a perfect time to get some real problems fixed. No excuses.

PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS!!!! PLEASE!

[BATMON]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

No. I like human factor of the game. Life isn't fair.

This magical notion of mathematical judgement is a fantasy.

Get home court advantage.

Why have home court advantage if your not going to get calls your way. You earned it.

I think fairness is an illusion.

Yeah I yelled at the tv during the Melo/Pierce foul, but I moved on and didn't use that as an out on the outcome.

Bad calls are part of the game.

I've been tossed for yellin at the Ref. Whoopdeedammdo.

I did complain when Rose went to the line alot in game one. Deal.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

It can't change and won't change. Happens in every sport.

Whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not (ie., refs have money on the game or are mandated to let one team win or extend a series), refs are human.

And they get caught up in the emotion of a game.

Whether 20,000 people watching an NBA game or 70,000 watching a football game, only a programmed robot would be fully capable of calling it down the line.

I think most people in the EC thread's problem are the blatant calls/non-calls (Big Baby's travel, Melo's offensive foul, Ray's And-1, etc).

Those are the calls that make you question the "fairness" of the league.

Every Knick fan in that thread complaining should just really focus on what the Knicks players and coaches let happen rather than the refs. Hubert Davis says what's up...

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

No. I like human factor of the game. Life isn't fair.

This magical notion of mathematical judgement is a fantasy.

Get home court advantage.

Why have home court advantage if your not going to get calls your way. You earned it.

I think fairness is an illusion.

Yeah I yelled at the tv during the Melo/Pierce foul, but I moved on and didn't use that as an out on the outcome.

Bad calls are part of the game.

I've been tossed for yellin at the Ref. Whoopdeedammdo.

I did complain when Rose went to the line alot in game one. Deal.

LOL. I'm sure you were saying this when Larry Johnson got a phantom four point play to beat your team, right? Or are you gonna be all hypothetical and say "Oh, we shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with."

The culture and nature can be changed, but it's hard hard work. I'm not even sure where you'd begin. It seems the culture of corruption runs through the entire league. Very tough to remove it. Start by using instant replay I guess, implement limits on how long a referee can ref, try to get rid of Stern/Jackson/whoever.....it's a mess.

[videobastard]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

The human error with officials is one thing. But the officials having way too much power in the nba is another. They are like comic book people. There is no suspension, fines, or firing for them unless something like the donaghy thing gets public.

The officiating is way too erratic with the current commissioner being ok with it. Like we the fans, customers, and viewers have known for the longest that their is preferential treatment to certain players and teams. We get that. But the phantom, blatant, away from the ball, abused technical foul plays can be toned down under proper enforcement. Which would mean a new commissioner and competent officials that have rules in place for their actions.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

Poor reffing is a symptom of the culture of the league, where teams are diminished and its all about the players. It's all a media sideshow and charade. That's what's good for business, I guess, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.

[Vast]

Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

The NBA is turning into Boxing. You can't leave it in the judges hands. You gotta knock the other dude out aka. be up by 15 with less than 2 minutes to go. Then there is nothing the refs can do to take the game away from your team.

Sad really.