Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

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  • Moses Shuttlesworth
    AB>
    • Aug 2006
    • 9435

    #16
    Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

    Originally posted by Vast
    The NBA is turning into Boxing. You can't leave it in the judges hands. You gotta knock the other dude out aka. be up by 15 with less than 2 minutes to go. Then there is nothing the refs can do to take the game away from your team.

    Sad really.
    That's pretty accurate. Basketball is a game of runs. And you can take a team out of the game by making them play into your hands.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52908

      #17
      Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

      Originally posted by Vast
      The NBA is turning into Boxing. You can't leave it in the judges hands. You gotta knock the other dude out aka. be up by 15 with less than 2 minutes to go. Then there is nothing the refs can do to take the game away from your team.

      Sad really.
      And that's thoroughly idealistic. Sure, some expect that to be the case, with their "Oh, you shouldn't have been in that position anyway" bull****, but fact of the matter is that you can't always win by 30.

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      • Jasong7777
        All Star
        • May 2005
        • 6415

        #18
        Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

        The refs are not going to be perfect, because they are human. Instant replay can cover up alot of mistakes. Use it. Mistakes like the goaltending call in OKC should never happen. Period
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        • BATMON
          Banned
          • Oct 2010
          • 1445

          #19
          Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
          LOL. I'm sure you were saying this when Larry Johnson got a phantom four point play to beat your team, right? Or are you gonna be all hypothetical and say "Oh, we shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with."

          The culture and nature can be changed, but it's hard hard work. I'm not even sure where you'd begin. It seems the culture of corruption runs through the entire league. Very tough to remove it. Start by using instant replay I guess, implement limits on how long a referee can ref, try to get rid of Stern/Jackson/whoever.....it's a mess.
          Does the so called "Culture of corruption" apply to MVP awards?
          Dork mvp jpg for the sensitive, since in runs through the entire league?
          Or it doesn't apply in that sense since it's a favorite player?

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          • King_B_Mack
            All Star
            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #20
            Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

            Originally posted by BATMON
            Does the so called "Culture of corruption" apply to MVP awards?
            Dork mvp jpg for the sensitive, since in runs through the entire league?
            Or it doesn't apply in that sense since it's a favorite player?
            Itching for that ban-hammer to come down eh?

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            • bakan723
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 1543

              #21
              Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

              David Stern must go, first of all, because this nonsense all comes from him. Let's be honest, out of all the major sports the NBA is the closest thing to the WWF.

              I would like to see the whole foul system computerized. There is too much grey area, up for the refs to determine how they see the play.

              I've been saying it for years, after watching HORRIBLE and inconsistent officiating. They should have special uniforms with electrodes hooked up to them and let the computers handle everything.

              No BS superstar calls, no home cooking. Everything would be legit, straight down the line . Nobody has any arguments or complaints. And we get to really see who the TRUE winner should be !!

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              • BATMON
                Banned
                • Oct 2010
                • 1445

                #22
                Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                Computers are programmed by humans.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #23
                  Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                  I remember when everybody was all hyped up when the league had to use the replacement refs....funny how that turned out lol

                  new commish, new refs....even if we get new rules...people are going to ***** about it...thats what people do now.

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                  • bakan723
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1543

                    #24
                    Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                    Originally posted by BATMON
                    Computers are programmed by humans.

                    So they would be programmed according to the exact interpretation of the rulebook.

                    Obviously David Stern couldn't be behind it though.

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                    • BlueNGold
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 21817

                      #25
                      Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                      I think it starts and ends with Stern. I don't think anything concerning the officiating gets changed until he leaves and the next guy in wants there to be change in that area.

                      If it was to be fixed, you'd have to almost completely clean house and start fresh with a new staff of refs. Peace out to Crawford, Bavetta, Salvatore, etc. All those guys were allegedly involved with the shadiness of the Donaghy era, so there's no way you can keep them.

                      Also, I feel there should be some type of in-house rating system or something of that sort where maybe the day after the game, both team's coaches hand in a survey-style sheet to the league with some basic questions on how good/bad they think each official was and it would be kept private/anonymous. Obviously there would be the possibility of certain coaches being biased because they might of had a certain call go against them or just general dislike for a certain ref, but in a 30 team league the amount of honest ratings would (hopefully) outweigh any biases.

                      Whether or not that idea would work, I'm not completely sure, but at the least the league would/should need to be constantly assessing all of their officials, similar to how the NFL does.
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                      • Muzyk23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 4192

                        #26
                        Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                        Originally posted by BATMON
                        Does the so called "Culture of corruption" apply to MVP awards?
                        Dork mvp jpg for the sensitive, since in runs through the entire league?
                        Or it doesn't apply in that sense since it's a favorite player?
                        can someone translate into English what he said?
                        NBA

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                        • BlueNGold
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 21817

                          #27
                          Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                          Originally posted by Muzyk23
                          can someone translate into English what he said?
                          The only thing I gathered is that he's still going on about how Dirk winning MVP was a sham (and I think the Nash MVP's as well) and how that's further proof that the league is corrupt.

                          Something like that....
                          Originally posted by bradtxmale
                          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                          • Muzyk23
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4192

                            #28
                            Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                            I get it now..thanks
                            NBA

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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52908

                              #29
                              Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                              .....moving along.....

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                              • greenegt
                                G-Men
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 4494

                                #30
                                Re: Can the "nature" of the game be changed?

                                Improving the officiating is a directive that needs to come from Stern and the NBA front office. It's a free-for-all, right now. What incentive do the refs have to make fair and consistent calls? There's no accountability. I like BlueNGold's idea of officials being rated throughout the year. Either by the coaches or by a neutral 3rd-party. If an official cannot stay above a certain rating threshold, he (or she) needs to be let go. Until the refs are held accountable, these inconsistency problems will continue.
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