NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[Altimus]

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Stern: "We tried very hard. We made concession after concession...I'm proud of my owners...demonstrated that they really tried."

I don't doubt that.

With the players and their BS wagon of "Standing United" and all that... all the other non-max or non-8 digit makers better send Wade, LBJ and KG a nice Christmas card.

[Dice]

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Feels like I'm in a time warp....back to 1998.

[aholbert32]

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I hope the players that aren't apart of the stupid stand united bullcrap come down hard on the PA.

These morons are saying stand united because they get endorsements and millions upon million a year. But the rest of the guys? They have to move and change and play in Europe or God forbid, China.

NBPA is just foolish, really stupid. They deserved to be screwed.

The next few weeks are gonna be funny. Watching these idiots scramble and try to get a job overseas. Have fun playing in Liberia Roger Mason.

[Dice]

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I got a feeling decertification is coming.

[Altimus]

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The next few weeks are gonna be funny. Watching these idiots scramble and try to get a job overseas. Have fun playing in Liberia Roger Mason.

The smart ones already got their deals. Those middle or bottom of the row players that knew the greed would consume the PA and it did.

[OSUFan_88]

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I got a feeling decertification is coming.

That would be a hilariously stupid thing to do now.

So probably.

[WTF]

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<- Hopes that someone has a nice roster for NBA 2k12 REALLY soon, doesn't look like we're getting the rookie rosters until New Years at the earliest this year.

[aholbert32]

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Am I the only one who kind of wants the whole season to be canceled. I hated the 98 season. It was full of sloppy basketball. I'd rather the owners blow it up and institute a hard cap.

[Altimus]

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That would be a hilariously stupid thing to do now.

Yep, but this is the Union we're talking about and it's run by the one know as the legendary Billy Hunter. Agents already know it's too late but with the greed of the players and the knowledge of Hunter, who knows.

[TheMatrix31]

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I don't feel bad for the players who have to go to Europe or Asia to "make ends meet".

At the very worst, they're still making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They should have been prepared. Unfortunately, their lifestyle precludes them from being responsible. So, if they truly ARE overseas trying to "sustain themselves", then that's pathetic.

[aholbert32]

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I got a feeling decertification is coming.

Let it come. That means no season. That guarantees a deal won't come until next spring/summer.

[Altimus]

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Am I the only one who kind of wants the whole season to be canceled. I hated the 98 season. It was full of sloppy basketball. I'd rather the owners blow it up and institute a hard cap.

I love hoops too much to want it canceled but I understand what you're saying. Personally I'm split. I want to see it canceled for reasons you mention among others but at the same time I want my hoops.

However, if we have to cancel a season for the longevity of the game... so be it.

[Dice]

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That would be a hilariously stupid thing to do now.

So probably.

Why not? Heck, the owners already said that there offer is going down from here. So the player might as well hit the 'nuclear bomb' option and see if they can get the courts on their side.

[TheMatrix31]

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I want this season AND next season blown up.

The world needs a break from the NBA.

I love basketball and I love my Suns, AND I'm currently applying for a damn job with the team, but this is just ridiculous. The players have been loathsome through this and Sternn & Co slightly less.

@WojYahooNBA: None of "concessions" ever existed, except in owner's wild first proposal to players.. becomes negotiating point for owners

I don't get this. Woj is saying the "concessions" only existed in the first proposal? It's not like they were there then they took them out. Thats impossible.

[Altimus]

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I don't feel bad for the players who have to go to Europe or Asia to "make ends meet".

At the very worst, they're still making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They should have been prepared. Unfortunately, their lifestyle precludes them from being responsible. So, if they truly ARE overseas trying to "sustain themselves", then that's pathetic.

Well look at the players like Lawson. Starting caliber PG that I'm sure got himself some nice things for that 1st year. At that time he was probably expecting that $1.6m to support his lifestyle and now it's gone. Doesn't mean he isn't responsible but if you have the money, why not spend it on a nice house and so forth. He has to do something to make payments.