Dirk vs. Webber

**ShaKobe** · 10-20-2003, 12:05 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Ya, but what good is having a low post guy now if he doesnt play in the low-post too often? Or if he isn't even playing at all? Granted, he plays down there more than Dirk does, but still doesn't that often.

I don't think the Maloofs or Petrie or even Adelman would have a problem with trading CWebb for Dirk. But I think Nellie and Cuban would probably have a problem losing the Diggler. But that's just my opinion.

**utexas** · 10-20-2003, 02:40 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk, he hasn't even hit his prime yet. His D is improving and will one day catch up with his offense. C-Webb gets alot of hype and isn't better on D, he is just stronger so he can lean more effectively, but in the end he is a marginal defender at best.

**utexas** · 10-20-2003, 02:40 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk, he hasn't even hit his prime yet. His D is improving and will one day catch up with his offense. C-Webb gets alot of hype and isn't better on D, he is just stronger so he can lean more effectively, but in the end he is a marginal defender at best.

**utexas** · 10-20-2003, 02:40 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk, he hasn't even hit his prime yet. His D is improving and will one day catch up with his offense. C-Webb gets alot of hype and isn't better on D, he is just stronger so he can lean more effectively, but in the end he is a marginal defender at best.

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 02:50 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

I think it matters that Dirk can't shut down opposing power forwards in the West. Say what you want about Webb...but you have to admit that he matches up better defensively with other power forwards. He's not really a power forward you say? Then do you really think he can lock up some of the better small forwards in the league? Paul Pierce? T-Mac? Kevin Garnett? Shawn Marion? Umm..okay...sure he's serviceable against guys like Rick Fox and Antoine Walker, but bottom line is that Dirk is as difficult to matchup on defense as he is on offense. Facts? Okay...here are yours...how bout that time he shut down Duncan in playoffs...or even Webber before he got hurt in the Sacto series...or...hmmm...did that actually happen? baaaah!

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 02:50 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

I think it matters that Dirk can't shut down opposing power forwards in the West. Say what you want about Webb...but you have to admit that he matches up better defensively with other power forwards. He's not really a power forward you say? Then do you really think he can lock up some of the better small forwards in the league? Paul Pierce? T-Mac? Kevin Garnett? Shawn Marion? Umm..okay...sure he's serviceable against guys like Rick Fox and Antoine Walker, but bottom line is that Dirk is as difficult to matchup on defense as he is on offense. Facts? Okay...here are yours...how bout that time he shut down Duncan in playoffs...or even Webber before he got hurt in the Sacto series...or...hmmm...did that actually happen? baaaah!

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 02:50 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

I think it matters that Dirk can't shut down opposing power forwards in the West. Say what you want about Webb...but you have to admit that he matches up better defensively with other power forwards. He's not really a power forward you say? Then do you really think he can lock up some of the better small forwards in the league? Paul Pierce? T-Mac? Kevin Garnett? Shawn Marion? Umm..okay...sure he's serviceable against guys like Rick Fox and Antoine Walker, but bottom line is that Dirk is as difficult to matchup on defense as he is on offense. Facts? Okay...here are yours...how bout that time he shut down Duncan in playoffs...or even Webber before he got hurt in the Sacto series...or...hmmm...did that actually happen? baaaah!

**jed_lemmons** · 10-20-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk. He's was the Mavs best interior defender last year, which doesn't say much other than he's a serveicable defender. I thought he gaurded Tim Duncan pretty well. When Dirk cares on defense, you can see how good he could be. When he starts moving his feet instead of trying to strip them on the way up every time he actually plays good defense. Dirk is my favorite player so I'm sure I'm a tad biased. But I live in Dallas, no doubt he this city would take. We have faith in the big porn star German.

Jed

**jed_lemmons** · 10-20-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk. He's was the Mavs best interior defender last year, which doesn't say much other than he's a serveicable defender. I thought he gaurded Tim Duncan pretty well. When Dirk cares on defense, you can see how good he could be. When he starts moving his feet instead of trying to strip them on the way up every time he actually plays good defense. Dirk is my favorite player so I'm sure I'm a tad biased. But I live in Dallas, no doubt he this city would take. We have faith in the big porn star German.

Jed

**jed_lemmons** · 10-20-2003, 02:52 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Dirk. He's was the Mavs best interior defender last year, which doesn't say much other than he's a serveicable defender. I thought he gaurded Tim Duncan pretty well. When Dirk cares on defense, you can see how good he could be. When he starts moving his feet instead of trying to strip them on the way up every time he actually plays good defense. Dirk is my favorite player so I'm sure I'm a tad biased. But I live in Dallas, no doubt he this city would take. We have faith in the big porn star German.

Jed

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 03:04 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Good deal..I'm not hating on Mavs fans...in fact I would take Dirk over Webber too...just as long as I have a bruiser (as in a Larry Smith aka Mr. Mean type of player) along the front line to go along with him.

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 03:04 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Good deal..I'm not hating on Mavs fans...in fact I would take Dirk over Webber too...just as long as I have a bruiser (as in a Larry Smith aka Mr. Mean type of player) along the front line to go along with him.

**joemomma26** · 10-20-2003, 03:04 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

Good deal..I'm not hating on Mavs fans...in fact I would take Dirk over Webber too...just as long as I have a bruiser (as in a Larry Smith aka Mr. Mean type of player) along the front line to go along with him.

**SKINSFAN0303** · 10-20-2003, 03:15 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

DIRK is a damn good player I would say in the top 7 in the league and on offense he is as good as i gets has the range and everything but dirk on defense is horrible and we all know that even dirk fans know that but I don't really blame him per se it's the way they play in dallas the whole idea is race teams to 120 and who cares if they get 115 along the way.. now yes dallas did beat the kings last year minus webber and bibby looked terrible in the playoffs this year why no webber however dallas with out dirk still played the spurs pretty well with out webber the kings are really about the 6th or 7th seed in the west yeah they win a few regular season games but they are not serious championship contenders with out him and the same goes with dallas but dallas and dirk are jump shooters and when the shots don't fall they lose webber is a threat in the post although he falls in love with his jumper more then he should sometimes as far as who is better that's tough depends on what i needed if i needed a scorer then it's dirk no question but if I need a big man with a presence in the post and more important on defense it's webber by a mile the one knock on webber and kg for that matter is sometimes they are a little to unselfish and sometimes that hurts his teams but the bottom line neither one has seen the finals let alone won anything ...so time will tell

**SKINSFAN0303** · 10-20-2003, 03:15 PM

Re: Dirk vs. Webber

DIRK is a damn good player I would say in the top 7 in the league and on offense he is as good as i gets has the range and everything but dirk on defense is horrible and we all know that even dirk fans know that but I don't really blame him per se it's the way they play in dallas the whole idea is race teams to 120 and who cares if they get 115 along the way.. now yes dallas did beat the kings last year minus webber and bibby looked terrible in the playoffs this year why no webber however dallas with out dirk still played the spurs pretty well with out webber the kings are really about the 6th or 7th seed in the west yeah they win a few regular season games but they are not serious championship contenders with out him and the same goes with dallas but dallas and dirk are jump shooters and when the shots don't fall they lose webber is a threat in the post although he falls in love with his jumper more then he should sometimes as far as who is better that's tough depends on what i needed if i needed a scorer then it's dirk no question but if I need a big man with a presence in the post and more important on defense it's webber by a mile the one knock on webber and kg for that matter is sometimes they are a little to unselfish and sometimes that hurts his teams but the bottom line neither one has seen the finals let alone won anything ...so time will tell

Dirk vs. Webber

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