Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

I'd get into what I mean but it's against the TOS.

Yeah I figured it was gonna inevitably go in that direction.

Anyway listen, I understand where you guys are coming from on this, but I think there's two extremes going on here.

[JaySmooov]

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A deeper problem in our society?

It's sports for crying out loud. Adults getting paid millions to play sports. That's number one for starters if we wanna talk about what's wrong with society.

When you get paid a fortune to play a game, you can't expect to play by the same rules as everyone else in society i.e. playing out contracts and what have you.

I may not think he's "all class" this and that or the other, but I think some of you guys seem a bit too upset. CP3 gave his heart and soul to the franchise and city for his entire career up to this point. So he didn't play out his last year? Calm the hell down, lol.

I find it funny that I've heard not one - NOT ONE - Hornets guy call him a "primadonna" (which is damn near a cliche to begin with), and yet there are only a few who feel Paul is the bad guy. Most of em live in LA - coincidence?

[BlueNGold]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Did Kevin Durant grow again?

Perkins is in between Durant and Russ.

DRAMA!!! TRADE DEMANDS!! THERE IS A RIFT!!

[TheMatrix31]

I find it funny that I've heard not one - NOT ONE - Hornets guy call him a "primadonna" (which is damn near a cliche to begin with), and yet there are only a few who feel Paul is the bad guy. Most of em live in LA - coincidence?

Like I care about what anybody on the Hornets or any Hornets fan is gonna say on the subject. Do you really think one of his now ex-teammate is going to throw him under the bus? Of course not. A) They probably have more tact than that and B) Paul is doing a good enough job of throwing himself under the bus.

And why would I trust a Hornets fan in their assessment? He's been that entire franchise for years now. They would never in their right mind speak badly about him.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, and you're new here so maybe you don't know this, but I don't need others opinions to validate my observations. I know what I see. And guys like Paul, and Howard are wishy-washy and fake.

Pretty sick of spilling ink on this topic actually.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Yeah I figured it was gonna inevitably go in that direction.

Anyway listen, I understand where you guys are coming from on this, but I think there's two extremes going on here.

Its more in that direction then you know, figured that out a while back....sad, honestly.

But yeah, Its definitely being taken to the extreme.

[l3ulvl]

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To me, Matrix, it's more complicated than that. The FO probably asks players the odds of them resigning long term. If the player gives low odds, the team looks to trade them instead of just letting him walk. If the player refuses to sign an extension and it's pretty obvious you'll lose him for nothing, that's basically the same as a trade demand anyway. The thing I don't understand is why make the demand? It might be easier to just tell the parent club you have no intention of staying, so if you want to trade me to acquire pieces then do it, otherwise I'm just gonna go sign elsewhere.

The problem that comes into play is the trading options then become limited as the other teams want to know what their prospects would be of signing the player long term. The question of "where do you want to play?" then arises as it becomes important to learn where he's willing to sign long term, basically just jumping the gun on where he might sign in the open market anyway. Those teams then need to decide whether to wait it out and enter a bidding war or try to make a move while he's still under contract and they'll have the opportunity to extend.

[Rawdeal28]

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A deeper problem in our society?

It's sports for crying out loud. Adults getting paid millions to play sports. That's number one for starters if we wanna talk about what's wrong with society.

When you get paid a fortune to play a game, you can't expect to play by the same rules as everyone else in society i.e. playing out contracts and what have you.

I may not think he's "all class" this and that or the other, but I think some of you guys seem a bit too upset. CP3 gave his heart and soul to the franchise and city for his entire career up to this point. So he didn't play out his last year? Calm the hell down, lol.

amen brotha

[RedSceptile]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

So in non Chris Paul/ Los Angeles news

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7358558/heart-exam-shows-abnormality-sacramento-kings-chuck-hayes

Seems like my boy Chuck might have some heart abnormality, I'm really hoping it isn't too serious an issue I've always loved how Hayes played for us and I wish him the best.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

So in non Chris Paul/ Los Angeles news

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7358558/heart-exam-shows-abnormality-sacramento-kings-chuck-hayes

Seems like my boy Chuck might have some heart abnormality, I'm really hoping it isn't too serious an issue I've always loved how Hayes played for us and I wish him the best.

Obertos condition started like this before forcing him into retirement.....hopefully he can keep playing

[Rawdeal28]

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man i hate to hear stuff like that. hopefully everything turns out ok and he can continue to play.

[TheMatrix31]

Pretty scary how many athletes have actual, physical heart issues.

[RedSceptile]

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Since a majority of it is hereditary I'd hope that team doctors look at medical history of the family to predict things like these I'm not blaming any of them at all but it's just such a scary thought.

Sort of like how the Military takes medical history extremely serious after certain incidents have occurred.

[JaySmooov]

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Like I care about what anybody on the Hornets or any Hornets fan is gonna say on the subject. Do you really think one of his now ex-teammate is going to throw him under the bus? Of course not. A) They probably have more tact than that and B) Paul is doing a good enough job of throwing himself under the bus.

And why would I trust a Hornets fan in their assessment? He's been that entire franchise for years now. They would never in their right mind speak badly about him.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, and you're new here so maybe you don't know this, but I don't need others opinions to validate my observations. I know what I see. And guys like Paul, and Howard are wishy-washy and fake.

Pretty sick of spilling ink on this topic actually.

I've been reading these threads for about 2-3 years now, but I decided to join the community recently.

That being said, lets get to the main point right quick: is Paul REALLY a primadonna? Ochocinco and T.O. are primadonnas. Shaq is probably considered a primadonna. Maybe even Allen Iverson - a guy who missed a charity game in Vegas because he was allegedly hungover - is a primadonna.

Are we really putting Chris Paul on the level of Ochocinco, T.O., Shaq, and Allen Iverson because of a freaking wedding toast and a trade request?

[TheMatrix31]

I've been reading these threads for about 2-3 years now, but I decided to join the community recently.

That being said, lets get to the main point right quick: is Paul REALLY a primadonna? Ochocinco and T.O. are primadonnas. Shaq is probably considered a primadonna. Maybe even Allen Iverson - a guy who missed a charity game in Vegas because he was allegedly hungover - is a primadonna.

Are we really putting Chris Paul on the level of Ochocinco, T.O., Shaq, and Allen Iverson because of a freaking wedding toast and a trade request?

Look bro, I've laid out multiple times why I've consistently called him such. If you want to ignore those reasons then fine, that's your prerogative. But if that's gonna be the case, then the discussion has to be dropped.

[Drewski]

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/caved

OKC @ DAL Sunday it is. Curious to see the lineups for the Mavs, and see lean pocket Perk in action.