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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #5941
    Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

    Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
    I'm not gonna speak for Ruff.

    I think (and I've said it here before) that D'Antoni would be a great offensive assistant coach or a college head coach. Or in Europe somewhere.

    He's not getting props for their recent winning streak. The system is what it is and he kind of needs a perfect storm to be successful. Most good head coaches don't need that (Doc Rivers, Jerry Sloan, Pop, etc.). They can adjust.

    Do I want him gone? Yes.

    But how do you rationalize chopping a guy who is winning?

    I'd prefer to have Mike Woodson as head coach.
    I agree with everything you've said.

    My thing was if people had a change of heart for D'antoni or did they still have the same feelings they had for him a few weeks ago, that's why I asked.
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    • 1Rose
      Banned
      • Jun 2011
      • 2562

      #5942
      Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

      I guess I should have chose my words differently, people weren't upset about it.

      But as we all know, the flaws can be ignored when you're winning.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #5943
        Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        My thing was if people had a change of heart for D'antoni or did they still have the same feelings they had for him a few weeks ago, that's why I asked.
        You're gonna get mixed reviews if you ask now. Maybe not on OS, but if you walked around New York.

        As others have mentioned, the number of people that now "follow" the Knicks is overwhelming because of Lin and the winning streak. They probably don't even know who D'Antoni is or what his offense is all about. I wouldn't be surprised if some people you ask even know that Carmelo plays for the team.

        The hardcore fans - the ones that talk Knicks all the time - haven't changed their feelings on D'Antoni. But right now we are ignoring it because the team is winning. Just riding the wave and enjoying something good (in terms of wins) for the first time in over a decade.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #5944
          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

          Thabo out another month with Foot Injury:

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #5945
            Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

            Stephen Jackson’s stint with the Milwaukee Bucks hasn’t gone quite as planned. Less than halfway through his first season in Milwaukee, Jackson is already tired of the organization and wants a trade. He’s not hiding his frustration and admits that he wants to be dealt before the trade deadline.
            The Bucks acquired Jackson on the night of the 2011 NBA Draft and hoped that he would provide leadership and take the team to the next level. Instead, he has been moved to the end of the bench and feuded with Bucks head coach Scott Skiles.
            When asked if he has a future in Milwaukee, Jackson shook his head.
            “Not at all,” Jackson told HOOPSWORLD. “It’s obvious, you can see that. I’m just waiting until my situation is different. I’m coming to work every day and keeping myself prepared so that when my situation does get better, I’m ready to go.”
            Jackson is frustrated with his diminished role and doesn’t understand why he’s not playing more. Over the last two seasons with the Charlotte Bobcats, the 12-year NBA veteran averaged 19.8 points and 37.3 minutes. This month, he’s averaging 21.3 minutes per game and has been benched altogether for five games.
            “It’s very difficult,” Jackson said. “I’m going from playing 38 minutes each game and being one of the top guys in minutes played over the last five years to not playing at all. It’s tough. The only thing that I can do is worry about what I can control and that’s trying to be a professional and keep supporting the young guys. It’s tough though, with how much I love the game. I know I have a lot of basketball left in me. It’s tough not being out there and not being able to contribute.”
            Jackson says that his relationship with Bucks head coach Scott Skiles is irreparable. He doesn’t appreciate the way that Skiles has handled this situation, describing his benching as disrespectful.
            “I’ve worked hard for many years to be that player that guys want to play with,” Jackson said. “To not be playing, and not have any reasons behind it, it’s kind of disrespectful. At the end of the day, I’m 33 years old. I’m not a 22-year-old guy that you’re coaching. I’m a grown man who’s probably done more than a lot of people in this locker room in this league, including coaches. Like I said, I can’t put myself in the game and I can’t do anything except support my teammates and be ready for when I do play.”
            Skiles has not met with Jackson to discuss the situation, according to the small forward.
            “No, there’s really nothing you can say,” Jackson said. “There’s no excuse for it.”
            On Friday, the Bucks faced off against the Orlando Magic. After the game, Jackson said he would love to join the Magic and play alongside his good friend Dwight Howard.
            “I would love to [play in Orlando],” Jackson said. “Dwight has said a couple of times that he wants me to be with him. When you get a compliment like that from a big man like Dwight, it means a lot. Tim Duncan always steps up for me and says I’m the ultimate teammate too. When I have guys like that speaking up for me, I must have been doing something right throughout my whole career. I know my situation is going to get better eventually and I’m just going to keep being professional and keep my mouth closed.”
            While Jackson has become somewhat of a distraction, he insists that he’s trying to keep his teammates out of the line of fire. All of Jackson’s teammates love him and many of the young players in the locker room look up to him. He hopes his situation gets resolved, but he doesn’t want them to be dragged into his drama.
            “I really don’t want them to get involved in it,” Jackson said. “I want them to continue to play and worry about winning games. I can handle my own situation. I’ve been a great professional, one of the top players in this league for a long time, and my play will speak for itself.”
            The NBA’s trade deadline is on March 15 and Jackson is definitely someone who could be on the move.
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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #5946
              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

              I will be happy when Stephen Jackson is no longer in the NBA. I knew the Bucks would regret that signing.
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              • DJ
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2003
                • 17756

                #5947
                Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                So, when JR starts playing with the Knicks, will they use him as a 6th man off the bench? That was his best role for the Nuggets.

                If so, does Shump get moved back to PG? Someone is going to lose minutes when JR starts playing.
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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #5948
                  Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  So, when JR starts playing with the Knicks, will they use him as a 6th man off the bench? That was his best role for the Nuggets.

                  If so, does Shump get moved back to PG? Someone is going to lose minutes when JR starts playing.
                  Heard they may cut Balkman to even make a spot for him

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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52897

                    #5949
                    Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                    Originally posted by DJ
                    I will be happy when Stephen Jackson is no longer in the NBA. I knew the Bucks would regret that signing.
                    Same. He is so....disgusting.

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                    • Boltman
                      L.A. to S.D. to HI
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 18283

                      #5950
                      Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Heard they may cut Balkman to even make a spot for him
                      Yea they released him.

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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11252

                        #5951
                        Originally posted by DJ
                        I will be happy when Stephen Jackson is no longer in the NBA. I knew the Bucks would regret that signing.
                        Meh, he's a good team guy on a winning team like his days in Indiana, San Antonio and (during their playoff run) Golden State. Sadly, the rest of the time he can be a real headcase especially with a demanding coach like Scott Skiles. He definitely has gas left in the tank -evidenced by that 30+ point game he dropped on my Spurs earlier this season - so a part of me can't understand why he's even in Skiles' doghouse? Trading him to a contender with expiring contracts, for cash or picks to a team under the cap or all out waiving him would probably be smart if he remains an issue. Would love to see him back in San Antonio, one of my favorite Spurs ever, but we have a logjam at the wing positions and need more size upfront.

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                        • Boltman
                          L.A. to S.D. to HI
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 18283

                          #5952
                          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                          He'll more than likely be traded before the deadline. I just wonder what teams are going to actively pursue a guy like him. Like you said on the right team he can be a pretty good addition. It's going to have to be a team that needs a wing that can fill it up from time to time.

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                          • nc0ffey
                            PS/XB: nc0ffey84
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6196

                            #5953
                            Originally posted by Boltman
                            He'll more than likely be traded before the deadline. I just wonder what teams are going to actively pursue a guy like him. Like you said on the right team he can be a pretty good addition. It's going to have to be a team that needs a wing that can fill it up from time to time.
                            He was actually good in Charlotte too, he seemed to be comfortable in his role as a starter and mentor even though they weren't a great team. I really wish they wouldn't have gotten rid of him, but I low he hates Charlotte now because of them dealing him.

                            I keep waiting to hear that the Bobcats traded Magette or someone else who has been playing well, its that time of year.

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                            • madjax
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 222

                              #5954
                              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                              Might be a good fit for the clippers NO ???

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #5955
                                Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                                Kobe Bryant told reporters Friday that he believes the constant trade rumors surrounding Pau Gasol have negatively impacted him. From the Los Angeles Times:
                                Though it appears pointing out a discrepancy involves splitting hairs, Bryant believes reports linking Gasol in a trade has made it "an emotional couple of days for him."

                                "Personally I don't understand that crap," Bryant said regarding the Lakers' effort to trade Gasol. "But it is what it is. It's important for him to know we support him. I support him especially. I just want him to go out there and play hard and do what he does best for us."
                                via Kobe Bryant: Trade speculation has made Pau Gasol emotional - latimes.com.

                                Now that's nothing new, with Gasol having off-court issues affect his performance as they did during an understandably rough time in the playoffs last spring. But it is telling that both Bryant and Gasol are not denying that he's on the block or being shopped constantly. This is yet another impact of the vetoed Chris Paul trade and subsequent fallout.

                                The Lakers took a step backward when they were forced to trade Lamar Odom because of his sense of betrayal over being involved in the Paul deal David Stern vetoed. In order to overcome that, the Lakers are considering a trade, which will have to involve Gasol due to the low value of their supporting players, ownership's belief in Andrew Bynum, and the fact they have to trade for a significant upgrade at the star level and not role players support. So Gasol is discussed, and with media so prevalent, rumors get out, as well as I'm sure discussions being held with Gasol regarding this situation.

                                For his part, Gasol says things are not affecting him, that he's blocking it out and playing, and to be fair, his numbers aren't significantly down, outside of his field goal percentage which is below 50 percent for the first time in nearly a decade. But there's an impact, and it's continuing to keep the Lakers out of the elite tier of teams. Until this situation is resolved one way or another, Gasol will have to play through it.
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