Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[Weeks]

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Really hope the Bulls can find a way to land Crawford.

He's my top choice for any potential (realistic) bulls SG

[ex carrabba fan]

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Jesus that would be one hell of a playmaking back court.

Can they defend good enough as a team with that back court?

I hope Crawford takes the MLE from Chicago or NY. That would be a lot of fun to watch.

[Weeks]

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Jesus that would be one hell of a playmaking back court.

Can they defend good enough as a team with that back court?

I hope Crawford takes the MLE from Chicago or NY. That would be a lot of fun to watch.

Hopefully the MLE, but I also hear the bulls may try a sign and trade with Ronnie and a couple of picks

Either way, having crawford would be awesome

[BlueNGold]

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I feel like Afflalo is the much better fit.

[Weeks]

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I feel like Afflalo is the much better fit.

He's a better fit since he's a better shooter and defender

But I always think back to the ECF, where rose would get double teamed the entire 4th quarter and we had NOBODY who could create their own shot.

And Crawford is much better at that

I think that Afflalo would be a better regular season fit

And Crawford is a better playoffs fit

[a_maz_ing]

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@bigeast

As a person with a lot more insight into the Knicks' situation than I, do you think Amare can get it done for NY, or will they need a legit center and move him to the 4?

I don't think they have to go the "Big 3" route. You have Chauncey's expiring contract @ $14MM give or take. I would just let that roll off and go after a big like Kaman and a PG like Kyle Lowry next summer. I know they want to make NY star power central and they wanna win now, so that'll never happen. I just don't think they need CP3 in order to contend for a championship.

If you go with the former solution, you can still have some depth retaining guys like Douglas, Fields and Walker.

I don't think that the Knicks can get it done with Amare unless he mostly plays the 4. I think having him play so many minutes especially too many minutes as the 5 will guarantee he is injured almost every season. That and Amare isn't a great defender or rebounder, which is another reason to get a real center. But there is no need to get rid of him because he was putting up MVP numbers before Melo arrived and before he wore down.

I have been saying for a while a big 3 isn't needed to win(not just with NY), and I like the idea of them getting Lowry or some other passing guard although I don't see the Rockets letting him walk. Unless the big 3rd memeber is Howard, they really could use some quality depth, especially big men. Right now they have 1.8 quality big men.

Speaking of Big 3s, I hear the Lakers are in position to get CP3 AND Howard. Like any fan that idea makes me . However the thought of both WITH a Kobe? That would add our athleticism, shooting, and future stars, which are 3 of our 4 biggest issues. I know the chances are slim, almost slimmer than our assets, but if any team has the GM and the ability to pull it off I think we can all agree the Lakers are one of those teams. Unlike Melo last year, I feel like this deal could actually happen. Nonetheless I'm generally happy with our team and won't die if we don't get both or either...
still, I know I'm not the only Laker fan beaming from ear to ear at the thought of this.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Oh I'd LOVE to hear the theory on how the Lakers can get CP3 AND Duhwight without gutting half the team.

[OSUFan_88]

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Oh I'd LOVE to hear the theory on how the Lakers can get CP3 AND Duhwight without gutting half the team.

Supposedly they are willing to trade everyone not named Kobe.

Still...they only have one Bynum and one Gasol. Everyone else on the team is just filler, IMO. I think they can get Duhwight, but I don't see how they could get CP3.

[Drewski]

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Oh I'd LOVE to hear the theory on how the Lakers can get CP3 AND Duhwight without gutting half the team.

Team would have to be gutted inside out. It's have to be Bynum Odom for Howard, Pau + for Cp3. New Orleans doesn't want Pau so you'd need a 3rd team interested in pau that has a centerpiece the Hornets would like to build around. Would fall on Kupchak gming it up and finding the 3rd partner bwith assets who want Pau, identifying those pieces, then presenting it to NO. "hey we'd like to discuss trading 'assets' for Paul, we have them lined up as it stands if you are interested.".

It's never happening but im just entertaining it.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Scheduling info starting to leak out from some teams.

For the Suns:

The NBA lockout is ending, but Phoenix still is getting locked out from seeing those Eastern Conference stars. With schedules sliced from 82 to 66 games, six East teams will not visit Phoenix this season. The six (Miami, Chicago, Orlando, Boston, New York and Indiana) were 2011 playoff teams that account for every East All-Star starter and 10 of the 12 East All-Stars. Avoiding top East teams at home (the Suns play each team on the road) might help the Suns in the standings, but they will lose millions of dollars in revenue.
The NBA schedule, obtained by The Republic before today's release, has the Suns opening the season Dec. 26 at home against New Orleans and Dec. 28 vs. Philadelphia before a Dec. 30-31 trip to New Orleans and Oklahoma City.
Each NBA team will play at least one back-to-back-to-back set. The Suns do so twice - Feb. 13-15 (at Golden State, at Denver, vs. Atlanta) and March 14-16 (vs. Utah, at the Los Angeles Clippers, vs. Detroit).
The Suns' toughest stretch will come in mid-January when they go on a nine-day trip to San Antonio, Chicago, New York, Boston and Dallas. A night after finishing the trip at Dallas, the Suns have a home game against Toronto.
In all, the Suns play 66 games in 122 days.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...#ixzz1fjKpuVCq

[areobee401]

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Oh I'd LOVE to hear the theory on how the Lakers can get CP3 AND Duhwight without gutting half the team.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Supposedly they are willing to trade everyone not named Kobe.

Still...they only have one Bynum and one Gasol. Everyone else on the team is just filler, IMO. I think they can get Duhwight, but I don't see how they could get CP3.

One of them, I can see them getting.

But BOTH of them being traded there? I really can't see in any logical world how that would happen.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I would turn in my Laker fan card the day they get both Howard and CP3.

I don't care if they played 3 on 5 with Kobe/Howard/CP3, it would be a disgrace to the NBA, a disgrace to the game of basketball and a disgrace to professional sports.

I would still probably get people telling me that Kobe wasn't the most helped superstar in league history and they'd bring up the 1.5 years where he had Kwame and Smush.

[TracerBullet]

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If they did somehow get both, which I don't think will happen, then I would probably be done with the NBA unless they brought a team back to Seattle in the future. Chris Broussard has to stop with these "sources" though.

[Drewski]

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I know it's easy to say Oh Magic will Amnesty Gilbert Arenas, but I've been screaming it up and down. Take this into consideration

This was a one-time opportunity for teams to waive one player and avoid having that player count in the team's luxury tax computation. Teams had the opportunity to use this provision between August 2nd and 15th, 2005 (right after the CBA went into effect). It could be used only for players signed or acquired prior to June 21, 2005, or for players already waived when the current CBA went into effect. A team could waive only one player using this provision.


Players waived using this provision are not counted in the team's team salary (see question number 14) when computing the amount of luxury tax the team owes (see question number 16). For example, if a team waived a player with a $10 million salary, and ended up $15 million over the tax level, then they would only owe $5 million in luxury tax (saving $10 million). However, the tax savings does not necessarily equal the player's salary -- if the team ended up just $3 million over the tax level then they would only save $3 million (owing no tax at all). If they ended up below the tax level, then there is no tax to be paid so they wouldn't realize any savings at all. On the other hand, it's possible for the net savings to exceed the player's salary. If a team's amnesty cut takes them from above the tax level to below it, then in addition to not owing any tax they will also receive a tax distribution.



The amnesty provision only affects the team's tax obligation. The team must continue to pay the player, his salary continues to count against their salary cap, and all other salary calculations are unaffected. However, the team may not re-sign or re-acquire the player for the length of the terminated contract. In all other respects, the player is treated just like any other waived player (see question number 56 for more information on waivers).

Source: NBA Salary Cap FAQ - Larry Coon

Amnesty Gilbert Arenas and still pay the rest of his contract? No. Trade Arenas and pay the smaller contract (amnesty Hedo).

If it doesn't go down that way I question their front office. Yeah, teams will be more hesitant. But what are you going to do? "Cant take Dwight because of Arenas sorry!". Not happening. Lakers get filler at point guard in Zero, who could get some "quality shots" lessons from Kobe. The world feels right again.

Also, if Odom is available in a Bynum package, that means Odom is available. Wonder who could be calling on that one. Will be interested in seeing what happens there if anything.

SMH at the CP3 D12 conspiracy article.

That is all.