Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[bigeastbumrush]

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@bigeast

As a person with a lot more insight into the Knicks' situation than I, do you think Amare can get it done for NY, or will they need a legit center and move him to the 4?

I don't think they have to go the "Big 3" route. You have Chauncey's expiring contract @ $14MM give or take. I would just let that roll off and go after a big like Kaman and a PG like Kyle Lowry next summer. I know they want to make NY star power central and they wanna win now, so that'll never happen. I just don't think they need CP3 in order to contend for a championship.

If you go with the former solution, you can still have some depth retaining guys like Douglas, Fields and Walker.

Amare's not supposed to be playing Center. He's a bad rebounder even at PF.

Do I think the Knicks can get it done with him at the 4, Melo at 3 and around $20M in cap space next year? Hell yeah.

I'm sick of the CP3/trade rumors.

I'd like to see the Knicks develop Shumpert at PG and see what he's made of. If a quality big man is there, pay him next year.

But I'm not expecting much this year.

I think with the players we have...2 of the best in the league...in a shortened season you should compete for the 8th seed in the East at worst.

My expectations for the Knicks start 7/1/12.

[Kashanova]

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I dont want Paul but I do want Howard. A Howard for Bynum/Odom and a pick trade is a decent one. I dont want Paul because I really dont want to hear people saying that the NBA gave us Paul on a platter. If the Hornets had an actual owner, I would have no problem with a Paul trade.

I don't think that the lakers can make the best offer for neither of those guys

[bigeastbumrush]

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For you guys expecting DeAndre Jordan to stay with the Clippers for cheap, or to sign with anyone for cheap.. with this intitial offer, you can expect Jordan to probably end up at at least 10 million a year. There was no way he was gonna make any less than 8 a year. Meaning Nene and Chandler will undoubtedly cash in....

The Clippers have offered DeAndre Jordan a five-year, $40 million offer, according to sources.

Jordan, a restricted free agent, may still sign an offer sheet with a higher dollar amount that forces the Clippers to match.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217037/Clippers_Offer_DeAndre_Jordan_Five_Year_$40M_Deal# ixzz1fkGE4jcA

As much as I like/want DeAndre Jordan...$8-$10M/yr

I guess they're giving up packaging him to Orlando?

What has he proven besides the fact that he's tall? Wow. Tyson Chandler just jizzed his pants.

The goal for this year is to have Amaré play most of his minutes @ PF & sign a C in FA.

As for CP3, I'm somewhat torn. I believe he's the perfect PG in Pringles system, but getting him probably means trading young pieces such as Fields & Shumpert plus fillers. Not to mention getting a 3rd team involved.

I think we can make noise in the East with what we have right now. A break here & there & we could have 99 all over again ;-)

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Pringles' system? He's a lame duck coach and will be gone and probably so will his system.

The CP3 thing is tiring. If he wants to be here...he can sign for less in July.

If not, take your talents elsewhere.

[ScoobySnax]

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That's moreso along the lines of what I was thinking. I wanna see their roster developed, not just throw together star players and hope they can play well together.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I dont want Paul but I do want Howard. A Howard for Bynum/Odom and a pick trade is a decent one. I dont want Paul because I really dont want to hear people saying that the NBA gave us Paul on a platter. If the Hornets had an actual owner, I would have no problem with a Paul trade.

Well, if Paul was traded for Andrew/Odom/picks, I think that's a good argument to the platter claim

Anyway I was trying to tell you guys, Emobert, Jordan, Nene and Chandler are all about to get paid. Think about it, it's the weakest FA class in recent memory and they all play in the most overpaid position in the NBA.

[a_maz_ing]

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I wouldn't be mad if

A. LA got neither, which IMO they will get neither
B. LA traded for one or the other
C. ESPN was wiped off the face of the planet

Whoah slow down there lol, I want to get a high paying job at ESPN some day. They need someone rational working up there opinion wise to counteract people like Skip and Cowherd.

and if that is how much Jordan is getting, I think we all know there is no way Chandler and Nene will take less than $14 million.
This lockout is looking like it really helped the bloated contracts.

[aholbert32]

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I don't think that the lakers can make the best offer for neither of those guys

What deal would be better for Howard? The Nets offer is good but most people arent 100% sold on Lopez as a future dominant center and the two #1s wont be lottery picks if the Nets have Howard and Williams on the same team. Any Clippers deal wont include Griffin or Gordon even though that unprotected #1 from Minn is really nice.

[aholbert32]

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Whoah slow down there lol, I want to get a high paying job at ESPN some day. They need someone rational working up there opinion wise to counteract people like Skip and Cowherd.

and if that is how much Jordan is getting, I think we all know there is no way Chandler and Nene will take less than $14 million.
This lockout is looking like it really helped the bloated contracts.

It helped out bloated contracts for this year but not in the future. We are at an unprecedented moment where teams have a ton of cap room and have to use 85% of their cap. They have to do these deals in order to reach the cap.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Chris Sheridan-

Samuel Dalembert: He told Chris Tomasson of FOXSportsFlorida that the Rockets are the frontrunners: “Houston, that one is the best,” said Dalembert. He later added, “I’m interested in the Rockets. They have a good team over there, a running team.” Dalembert, who averaged 8.1 points and 8.2 rebounds last season, did say “chances are still open” he could re-sign with the Kings. He said he exchanged text messages with Sacramento coach Paul Westphal on Monday.

Jason Kapono: Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times reports the Lakers are close to locking him up for two years at $1.3 million per season. Bresnahan also learned that the Lakers will open the season with three games in three nights. Someone should tweet that to Howard.

[King_B_Mack]

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What deal would be better for Howard? The Nets offer is good but most people arent 100% sold on Lopez as a future dominant center and the two #1s wont be lottery picks if the Nets have Howard and Williams on the same team. Any Clippers deal wont include Griffin or Gordon even though that unprotected #1 from Minn is really nice.

Pau isn't fit to be the centerpiece of a team and he's about to be 32. Lamar Odom sure as hell can't be a centerpiece of a team and he's already 32. Bynum is young but he's an idiot and his health will always be a concern and you never know when he's going to check out mentally. Replacing your franchise player with guys that can't be centerpieces of a championship team, with age and/or mental/focus/health issues is not the best deal on the table.

The best deals the Magic can get out there is coming from New Jersey or Chicago.

[Kashanova]

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What deal would be better for Howard? The Nets offer is good but most people arent 100% sold on Lopez as a future dominant center and the two #1s wont be lottery picks if the Nets have Howard and Williams on the same team. Any Clippers deal wont include Griffin or Gordon even though that unprotected #1 from Minn is really nice.

I'm pretty sure that their are teams that are out there that aren't being reported besides. Gasol is old, Bynum has crappy years, and Your draft picks don't really have value.


Edit: meant to say bynum has crappy knees

[ex carrabba fan]

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What other teams make sense?

I like Chiacgo's deal a bit more than LA's. If they offer up Boozer/Noah, but I really doubt they would do that.

Also I don't mind the Kapono signing because it's the veteran's exception, so it doesn't count against the cap. Hopefully he's not completely worthless.

[aholbert32]

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I'm pretty sure that their are teams that are out there that aren't being reported besides. Gasol is old, Bynum has crappy years, and Your draft picks don't really have value.

The other offers dont matter if Howard wont sign long term with those teams. Indiana could give them a great offer but they would never do it because Howard would never sign an extension with them.

[DukeC]

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What other teams make sense?

I like Chiacgo's deal a bit more than LA's. If they offer up Boozer/Noah, but I really doubt they would do that.

Also I don't mind the Kapono signing because it's the veteran's exception, so it doesn't count against the cap. Hopefully he's not completely worthless.

You're getting Kyle Korver essentially.

[aholbert32]

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Pau isn't fit to be the centerpiece of a team and he's about to be 32. Lamar Odom sure as hell can't be a centerpiece of a team and he's already 32. Bynum is young but he's an idiot and his health will always be a concern and you never know when he's going to check out mentally. Replacing your franchise player with guys that can't be centerpieces of a championship team, with age and/or mental/focus/health issues is not the best deal on the table.

The best deals the Magic can get out there is coming from New Jersey or Chicago.

Like I said before Bynum and Lopez are practically a wash. Both are young centers with potential but big question marks. I'm a Laker fan so I'm a little biased but I'd take Bynum and Odom over Lopez. Barring health issues, Bynum/Odom still allow you to contend for a playoff spot in the East. Lopez doesnt.

The Noah/Boozer offer isnt lightyears better than Bynum/Odom either. I'd argue that Bynum's offensive game is better than Noah's and its not like Noah's been injury free the last two seasons. Tack on to that you have to take on Boozer's contract. Now I like a Noah/Deng/Draft picks combo.