Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[phenom1990]

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We still have other options @ PG. We still still have our MLE. Players like JJ Barea are still available.

Serious question, do you think a point guard like Barea will be able to keep Amare and Melo happy with the amount of touches they get per game? My thinking is that the Knicks need a veteran point guard that understands how to get everybody involved and manage egos. I don't know if Barea commands that type of respect from Melo and Amare.

[NINJAK2]

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Man Tyson Chandler on the Knicks...

This won't help them. This only provides them with one starter who is willing to play some defense.......

[BlueNGold]

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Bynums has a higher FG%, higher Rebounding%, and if he received the touches Brook got he'd be scoring 20 + a game easy taking passes from Deron Williams. I consider Bynum better for those reasons alone, not considering other factors. That is stats. Say what you will about Bynum's health, but Brook only played 20 more games over the last three years. Bynum has great hands and finishes around the rim with ease. Arguably, he has a better post game than Dwight as far as footwork and moves. I'm perfectly happy keeping Bynum if we can't get Dwight, the guy is very talented. I wish the Lakers utilized him more in all honesty. But Dwight is a superstar-franchise player, so you have to make a push as a good GM (and Mitch is superb)

Since when did hypotheticals become stats?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Bynums has a higher FG%, higher Rebounding%, and if he received the touches Brook got he'd be scoring 20 + a game easy taking passes from Deron Williams. I consider Bynum better for those reasons alone, not considering other factors. That is stats. Say what you will about Bynum's health, but Brook only played 20 more games over the last three years. Bynum has great hands and finishes around the rim with ease. Arguably, he has a better post game than Dwight as far as footwork and moves. I'm perfectly happy keeping Bynum if we can't get Dwight, the guy is very talented. I wish the Lakers utilized him more in all honesty. But Dwight is a superstar-franchise player, so you have to make a push as a good GM (and Mitch is superb)

1. You don't think Bynum benefits from playing next to Pau Gasol, who not only draws the defense's attention away from Bynum, but also happens to be one of the best passing big men, if not THE best passing big man in the league?

2. You don't think Bynum benefits from having Odom playing next to him for the same reasons that I used for Pau?

3. You don't think Bynum benefits from having Kobe on the perimeter, drawing double teams all the time?

4. I've already pointed out that Lopez is a more efficient post-scorer and a more efficent spot up shooter as well.

5. The reason Lopez gets more touches than Bynum is because 1) He's more skilled with his back to the basket; 2) He actually plays in games and logs minutes so therefore he has an opportunity to get those touches.

6. You don't think Lopez is hindered by the fact that defenses can just focus on stopping him?

7. You really think having an injured Deron Williams for 12 games helped Lopez's stats that much?

[Flightwhite24]

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From the same teams that brought you Kobe and Shaq comes the thrilling sequel... CHRIS PAUL AND DWIGHT HOWARD!

Someone finally gets whats happening here

Lakers have a lot of work to do the next few days to get this team together.

[a_maz_ing]

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I really don't know what to say right now. Getting CP3 is great, but if Derek Character starts one game this season, it ain't going to be a good look. Gotta get Dwight.

Agreed. BTW love your Laker avatar.

We still have other options @ PG. We still still have our MLE. Players like JJ Barea are still available.

I don't think any pg's out there would be an upgrade over Bill-ups though.

-All while averaging 2 quarters a game.

-Yeah he's efficient...especially when he's the 3rd and sometimes 4th option and all of his buckets are off lobs and putbacks.

-Solid post defense-I agree. Never said Brook's was better(in fact I said he needs to work out that)Now post Offense...Brook has the advantage.

-Championship Experience: Good for him....and the rest of his team. I wish Brook got to be blessed with the Black Mamba and Phil.

Why don't yall just agree that you two will never AGREE? lol this is like a blind guy yelling at deaf guy who is showing the blind guy pictures.

[a_maz_ing]

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I'll say it again....the thought of Paul throwing alley-ops to Dwight is unfair.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Where the **** all these Laker Fans come from now?

[King_B_Mack]

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Man words cannot express right now....

I had worked the hell out of that multi quote button as I read through what I missed while at work today, but I just said screw it.

All I'm gonna say is it's good to see we ALL put it out on the table finally. Fans, the NBA, the players. We all finally acknowledge that it isn't about competition in the NBA. It isn't about winning, it isn't about the better man/team. It's all about the dollars. The Lakers will undoubtly get Dwight as well now and they'll be good to go again. Meanwhile just like when they got gifted Gasol in the first place we got people making excuses like New Orleans made out like champs. Yes, yes of course New Orleans made out good in this because the goal isn't winning championships, it's making the playoffs to keep fans just interested enough to spend money on your garbage you're running out on the court every night. Hey it's cool though cause if they don't want the "assests" they're getting here, they can trade them for some good pieces. Some good pieces to what? Chris Paul won't even sign a contract to stay there, teams like Golden State have pieces but in the very arguments Laker fans are making for why they have the best package for Dwight and why such and such is a bad place for Paul, they tell us that these guys who make those pieces actually mean something won't sign extensions if they're traded there. So what the **** good is getting pieces if nobody will even stay there if you do somehow find a way to land a big fish?

[Drewski]

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1. You don't think Bynum benefits from playing next to Pau Gasol, who not only draws the defense's attention away from Bynum, but also happens to be one of the best passing big men, if not THE best passing big man in the league?

I'd agree here if the Lakers utilized it that way. The Lakers use of the post was pedestrian at best the last few years. All that size and never utilized it to it's fullest potential. He could have benefited, but Bynum played best away from Gasol.

2. You don't think Bynum benefits from having Odom playing next to him for the same reasons that I used for Pau?

I don't see how Lamar Odom makes Andrew Bynum better.

3. You don't think Bynum benefits from having Kobe on the perimeter, drawing double teams all the time?

Bynum benefitted from teams over committing to Kobe, definitely. But that'd be considering Bynum having a jump in his point production, clearly he wasn't getting touches.

4. I've already pointed out that Lopez is a more efficient post-scorer and a more efficent spot up shooter as well.

I'd have to look at advanced synergy stats but you may be right. Bynum still is very skilled in the post, he has great footwork and can finish all around the glass. I have no doubt Brook is probably a better spot up shooter.

5. The reason Lopez gets more touches than Bynum is because 1) He's more skilled with his back to the basket; 2) He actually plays in games and logs minutes so therefore he has an opportunity to get those touches.

I dont believe Brook is more -skilled- than Bynum with his back to the basket. The Lakers offense, again, did not utilize their size correctly. They did not drop it down to the big man enough.

6. You don't think Lopez is hindered by the fact that defenses can just focus on stopping him?

Explain his rebounding.

7. You really think having an injured Deron Williams for 12 games helped Lopez's stats that much?

No, but I think being one of the only options on the team did. It's a fact, guys on struggling teams have overloaded stats. Bynum is a victim of the opposite

10 chars because I dont feel like breaking up the quote. REsponses in bold.

[bigfnjoe96]

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I'll say it again....the thought of Paul throwing alley-ops to Dwight is unfair.

Be careful what you ask for.....

[ProfessaPackMan]

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When Cheese Doodles talks, we listen:

Stephen A. Smith:

Quote:
“Dwight will be a Laker in the next couple of days, if not hours.”

[aholbert32]

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

[Rawdeal28]

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I don't know about the other 2 or 3 Laker fans who comment on here, but I never wanted Gasol out or called him soft...he just had a bad series. No reason to trade him.



Really, what idiotic thing has been said by a Laker fan on here?



That is true LA has more talent but that doesn't mean the Hornets don't have depth.

i was talking about the people i been conversing with on Facebook. straight up stupid.

the Laker fans i chop it up with on here know their stuff.

Come on son...that ain't right.

thats ****ed up man!

Where the **** all these Laker Fans come from now?

im saying the same thing lol

like the others have said, unless we get D-12, im not a fan of the CP3 deal. although i do think were getting him. once we get Dwight, then maybe we can go after Kenyon martin and another backup big.

THEN, i will be happy.

[tehova]

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@FlyerGrizBlog Chris Herrington
RT <s>@</s>WojYahooNBA: NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Paul to the Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports