Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[Weeks]

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And off topic, but I just realized, anyone know where Altimus is?

[JaySmooov]

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No, you have to take it. Howard is a better defender and rebounder than Noah (his two strengths), and has an offensive game.

With Howard the bulls would win multiple championships. There is nobody like him

Yeah, that's true. But Noah does a lot for that locker room, and is intensity and heart is unrivaled in this league, in my opinion.

I just wonder if Bulls fans would understand if they made that deal. I kind of think a lot of die-hards have an emotional attachment to Noah because of that intensity and heart.

[aholbert32]

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That's EXACTLY what some of your Laker fan brethren are NOT doing.

Nobody knows what it will take to get Howard. Bynum, talent from a 3rd team and multiple picks could be enough. Bynum, Pau and multiple picks could be enough. Both of those offers could not be enough.

I haven't read one person here say that there is any package that will guarantee Howard to the Lakers. I've read some people speculate what packages could do it. You and your Bulls brethren disagree. Doesn't mean people can't continue to speculate. Doesn't mean that they are "delusional" for speculating about ways the Lakers could pull it off.

I'm a Laker fan so I don't bitch about how laker fans are being treated. I just find it interesting that 4 days ago these same Laker fans were talking about trading for Paul and many of you said it would take Bynum and Pau and that we were crazy for even thinking that would happen. One day later we were a Stern veto away from exactly that happening.

Same situation now with Howard. The Lakers may get him...may not. But no one is delusional for thinking its a possibility.

[TheMatrix31]

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Gee, I sure am glad the NBA is back.




.... Indy looks good.

[Weeks]

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Yeah, that's true. But Noah does a lot for that locker room, and is intensity and heart is unrivaled in this league, in my opinion.

I just wonder if Bulls fans would understand if they made that deal. I kind of think a lot of die-hards have an emotional attachment to Noah because of that intensity and heart.

Yup, it would suck losing Noah, but in the end if they want to win they'd have to get Howard.

The annoying thing though is that there would be a lot of new bulls "fans".

[Noles4ever]

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No, you have to take it. Howard is a better defender and rebounder than Noah (his two strengths), and has an offensive game.

With Howard the bulls would win multiple championships. There is nobody like him

I love Noah, but if the Bulls could bring in Dwight Howard and sign him to a LTD you make the trade in a heart beat.

[a_maz_ing]

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The fact that you anointed some of us "Laker haters" shows me your a homer. No one in here has directly said "the Lakers aren't good", "the Lakers suck", "Kobe is a scrub", etc. We all know good and damn well Kobe is a great player.

So just because you don't say something directly means you don't say it? Riiiight. It is called an indirect statement. If I say a person who's user name starts with a "J" hates the Lakers I never actually said your name but it indirectly implies you.
SO to that point some of yall have made indirect/subtle statements saying the Lakers are not good. Not many, but some people have.
Don't be so sensitive because you get (correctly) called a Laker *****, especially when I wasn't even talking about you lol.

But we also wasn't born yesterday. The only people who think Kobe is a top-5 player in this league are Laker fans/homers. He's barely a top-10 player, in my OPINION. Because I have an opinion, does not make me a *****.

BS. BS. BS. If we take a NBA poll of players, GMs, coaches, and media people they would all give him top ten, not "barely top ten". More than likely he would be top 5 at worst in most of those peoples minds.

Hating is looking at Derrick Rose's MVP year and saying, "Dude didn't even average 10 assists, how did he win MVP" or something like that. Not stating the obvious, such as, "The Lakers aren't what they once were" or "They're not a legitimate threat in the West like they used to be" etc.

Correct, but saying Kobe "can't get to the rim" or "Kobe can't take over games" is hating. Kobe got to the rim last year and he took over some games, just not as much as he used too.

Besides none of those examples you used were the examples of hating on LA that goes on in this board.

[Weeks]

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Gilbert Arenas has cleared waivers and become a FA

[Kashanova]

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Gilbert Arenas has cleared waivers and become a FA

I wonder who's going to take a chance on him

[a_maz_ing]

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Gee, I sure am glad the NBA is back.




.... Indy looks good.

They really do, but honestly outside of upsetting Boston I can't see them taking down any of those elite teams. They still need that one elite player. I think Paul George could become that guy. It would also help if Danny Granger would stop regressing....

[JaySmooov]

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Nobody knows what it will take to get Howard. Bynum, talent from a 3rd team and multiple picks could be enough. Bynum, Pau and multiple picks could be enough. Both of those offers could not be enough.

I haven't read one person here say that there is any package that will guarantee Howard to the Lakers. I've read some people speculate what packages could do it. You and your Bulls brethren disagree. Doesn't mean people can't continue to speculate. Doesn't mean that they are "delusional" for speculating about ways the Lakers could pull it off.

I'm a Laker fan so I don't bitch about how laker fans are being treated. I just find it interesting that 4 days ago these same Laker fans were talking about trading for Paul and many of you said it would take Bynum and Pau and that we were crazy for even thinking that would happen. One day later we were a Stern veto away from exactly that happening.

Same situation now with Howard. The Lakers may get him...may not. But no one is delusional for thinking its a possibility.

What I and many other's are saying is that Drewski was going on and on about how great CP3 and Kobe and the Lakers would be, or how Dwight and Kobe would tear through the league. THAT is delusional.

He want into what's great about Kobe, such as his footwork, post game, and mid-range jumper. That is not speculation. It's talking basketball, just as he said.

I don't have a problem with speculation. Go back to my original posts.

I NEVER - NEVER - said ANYTHING about delusional speculation. I mentioned delusional Laker rants, or possibly delusional Kobe rants. I know I used the word rant(s) because he was going on and on for about 5-10 pages about how great the Lakers would be with those guys when it's not gonna happen, as of now.

What's the point of trying to sell us on how great CP3 and Kobe would be when CP3 ain't goin there? We dwelled on the possibility of Nene and Pau for a few posts or pages or two. Moved on. Dwelled on Marc and Pau reuniting in Houston for MAYBE a few posts. Moved on.

Drewski can't seem to move on from the possibility of Dwight and CP3 coming to LA, and how "great" they COULD be. Hence, why I said he had a "love jones" for the Lakers.

So, can we end this debate and contribute to the topic of the thread?

[Weeks]

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I wonder who's going to take a chance on him

Me too, he said he hopes to get signed by the team that trades for Howard

[Weeks]

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Houston Rockets claim Jeremy Lin off of waivers

[1Rose]

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You quoted a paragraph from me and then said yeah and then send Bynum to Orlando for Dwight (or whatever, not worth me scrolling around and quoting). I never once said in that quote that Lakers would be able to land Dwight, I was purely talking about CP3. Not at any point did I say the Lakers are landing Dwight with Bynum (sans Gasol). You attempted to insult me on something that I never even said... yet I have pointless insults and a wasteful opinion?

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Your move Nets.
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Think Magic would prefer this.

And you think Kobe/Dwight is the only thing that Mitch is positioning? Please.

This isn't the first time your tune has changed in this thread.

Noah/Boozer/Deng better than Bynum/Gasol 3 1sts? Definitely....

Bulls package is alright but not thrilling.

If the Bulls were actively pushing, they'd already be ahead of the Nets, and would be close to the Lakers' package

Blame me doing this research on this boring Bears/Broncos game.

Didn't feel like going back and quoting the nonsense that was being thrown around when the CP3 talks were happening.

Just stop pointing the finger at other people when you've been just as guilty of such offenses.

Let us all carry on, in a respectful manner please and get back to discussion instead of calling each other homers/haters.

[JaySmooov]

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BS. BS. BS. If we take a NBA poll of players, GMs, coaches, and media people they would all give him top ten, not "barely top ten". More than likely he would be top 5 at worst in most of those peoples minds.

I'm done. Because I can't see ANYONE reasonable picking Kobe over Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, or Dwyane Wade. And that's at the LEAST.

But, like I said, I'm done.