Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[Drewski]

They can keep Ellis. Give me Curry. That's my stance as Otis Smith, no doubt.

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[Sports fanantic]

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i believe a trade revolving around curry can get it done if the magic are interested.

curry+AB15+udoh+thompson or wright+pick for DH12

projected lineup

pg: Nate rob, ellis, jenkins
Sg: Ellis, Nate, Rush
sf: rush, or wright (if not traded)
pf: DLee, Jeremy tyler
C: DH12, kwame Brown

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Forgot Hedo.

[Sports fanantic]

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Forgot Hedo.

if the magic want us to take hedo than we either need a 3rd team or put David lee into the table. i rather keep Monta and David to convinces howard to stay with them after the season.

[WTF]

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if the magic want us to take hedo than we either need a 3rd team or put David lee into the table. i rather keep Monta and David to convinces howard to stay with them after the season.

Then who would the Magic get? Kwame?

[Sports fanantic]

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Then who would the Magic get? Kwame?

did you see my previous post of a trade proposal.


it may or may not happened but im intrigue about their proposal deal.

P.S: didn't Otis have a fetish for GSW's players (Jrich,Arenas,adonal Foyle,Troy murphy)?

[ScoobySnax]

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Never saw this coming.

With rival executives doubting that the Magic would be interested in the Nets' offer of Brook Lopez and draft picks for Dwight Howard, it could be that Deron Williams is already frustrated in a losing situation in New Jersey.

"I don't think he feels it there," said a person familiar with Williams and his tendencies. "I could see him saying, 'I've got all the money. I can go back to Dallas. That's my home.' I don't see any spunk in his game right now. He's going through the motions."



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1ieQviHww

[ProfessaPackMan]

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He has absolutely nobody to blame for that mess up there.

[Playmakers]

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Eric Gordon Says The Clippers Lied To Him About The Chris Paul Trade
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Eric Gordon claims that the Los Angeles Clippers lied to him about the eventual trade that sent him to the New Orleans Hornets, according to Yahoo! Sports.

“All you do is take the man’s word and take that he said that no one is going to go anywhere,” Gordon told Yahoo! Sports. “… To completely lie like that is something unprofessional.”

“They literally told me as an organization that they wanted to keep me, and [the trade still] went down?”

Clippers general manager Neil Olshey, who orchestrated the deal that sent Gordon to New Orleans, and brought Chris Paul to Los Angeles, denies that he lied to Gordon.

“I’m not deceptive enough to look players in the eye and tell them something that is not true,” Olshey told Yahoo!. “And I can tell you from an ownership level, the president of our company, myself, we made a corporate decision Monday morning that when the deal didn’t go through on Sunday night we would no longer pursue the trade. And that’s when we notified our players, to get the elephant out of the room during our abbreviated training camp.”

[Boltman]

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Eric Gordon Says The Clippers Lied To Him About The Chris Paul Trade
Chris Paul, Eric Gordon, Los Angeles Clippers, NBA | Comments
Eric Gordon claims that the Los Angeles Clippers lied to him about the eventual trade that sent him to the New Orleans Hornets, according to Yahoo! Sports.

“All you do is take the man’s word and take that he said that no one is going to go anywhere,” Gordon told Yahoo! Sports. “… To completely lie like that is something unprofessional.”

“They literally told me as an organization that they wanted to keep me, and [the trade still] went down?”

Clippers general manager Neil Olshey, who orchestrated the deal that sent Gordon to New Orleans, and brought Chris Paul to Los Angeles, denies that he lied to Gordon.

“I’m not deceptive enough to look players in the eye and tell them something that is not true,” Olshey told Yahoo!. “And I can tell you from an ownership level, the president of our company, myself, we made a corporate decision Monday morning that when the deal didn’t go through on Sunday night we would no longer pursue the trade. And that’s when we notified our players, to get the elephant out of the room during our abbreviated training camp.”

Just two pages back, but you did add more.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043234443

[Playmakers]

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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/06/video-report-knicks-willing-to-trade-stoudemire-to-rent-howard/

The Knicks have opened talks that would send Amare Stoudemire to Orlando in a swap to rent Dwight Howard, reports Donny Marshall — former NBA player and current CSNNE reporter — on NBC SportsTalk Thursday. In the video above the talk of the trade starts at the 3:30 mark.

There are a whole lot of questions around this one. Starting with, the Knicks are not one of the teams on Howard’s list where he said he would sign an extension (Nets, Lakers, Mavericks and Magic). If they get him, the Knicks would essentially risk just renting him because Howard could opt out at the end of the season and leave with the Knicks getting no compensation. Clearly, if they got him they think they could get him to change his mind and sign long term.

Thing is the Knicks already have a good center — they just signed Tyson Chandler to a four-year, $58 million deal. Is the plan to ship Chandler out, too? Trade him to Orlando for the Hedo Turkoglu deal? Because the cost of keeping Howard (who will get a new max deal) and Chandler would put the Knicks way into the new, increasingly stiff luxury tax.

Would the Knicks really ship out Stoudemire, the guy who came in to inspire the fan base after the Knicks missed on LeBron James? That just seems cold.

This report comes just after we heard the Warriors are aggressively going after Howard as a rental.

[l3ulvl]

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It's cold, but as always we'll hear it's "just business". Makes you wonder if they're willing to rent Howard, then spend the money on a PG when he leaves. Deron/Melo/Chandler would be interesting.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Isaiah The Genius GM doesn't like the Knicks' acquisition of Tyson Chandler:

If Knicks fans want a reason to believe in the quality of the Tyson Chandler acquisition, look no further than Iasiah Thomas. Because he didn't like it. The New York Postreports:

Conveniently appearing on the Sid Rosenbug Show on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Bilups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard Chris Paul with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the Clippers.

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

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“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’

via Isiah Thomas, former Knicks president, not thrilled with Tyson Chandler acquisition - NYPOST.com.

Thomas is right, here.

I know, I know. We're uncomfortable with that statement as well.

But it has less to do with the state of the league than D'Antoni says. The Bulls teams that ended the Pistons' run didn't have great point guards. Yes, they had the greatest shooting guard of all time, but calling Jordan a guard is like calling a T-Rex a lizard. Yes, it's technically true but you don't compare its danger level to a gecko. Furthermore, the Lakers' dynasty under Phil Jackson featured a star shooting guard, but also had Derek Fisher at point guard. Billups was always going to play point gaurd for the Knicks, and the shooting guard scoring load on the perimeter is held by Carmelo Anthony.

But the Knicks do need a point guard, because of their coach. D'Antoni is under heavy fire from fans and pundits right now, despite the fact that it's clear this is not the roster he would assemble if he had his choice. His system needs a playmaker. Anthony's only play is to score. It's not just Steve Nash. The Knicks looked more cohesive last year with Raymond Felton who is a huge downgrade from Nash offensively. It's like trying to run a car without an ignition system. So in that sense, Thomas is on target.

But here's where he's wrong.

Chandlr wasn't the wrong acquisition. Chandler has brought defense and a better attitude to the Knicks. He can change the course of a game and provides a defensive balance to D'Antoni's offensively-geared staff. Chandler is not the poor fit for the Knicks. Anthony is.

Anthony is a scoring wing. But even that's fine and great in D'Antoni's system. And he's a small forward, who next to Amar'e Stoudemire, could be great. But Anthony is primarily an isolation, off-the-drible shooter. He's a great rebounder, and that's a legitamate boost for the Knicks, but offensively, there's not much more of a worse fit for the Knicks an D'Antoni than Anthony.

Chandler wasn't where they went wrong. And keeping Billups wasn't a mistake, as he has passed the point where he can consistently contribute efficiently, and isn't a playmaking guard at this point. But the Knicks' design may have been damaged already... by Thomaz' involvement in the Anthony saga.

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Problem with comparing MJ in that statement is that he played in the post, and thats also something NY doesn't have or at least use Melo for

[AnnihilusLivius]

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@hoopshype
Rumors: Amare Stoudemire for Dwight Howard?


Oh god, this is getting crazy each day.