2012 NBA Draft Discussion

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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A few undrafted free agents

Scott Machado
Kevin Jones
Drew Gordon
William Buford
Tu Holloway
Casper Ware
J'Covan Brown
JaMychal Green
Eric Griffin
Leon Radosevic
Jordan Taylor
Terrell Stoglin
Hollis Thompson
Nihad Djedovic
Mitchell Watt
Dusan Cantekin
Yancy Gates
Tony Mitchell
Henry Sims
Josh Owens
Herb Pope
Dee Bost
Alex Young
John Shurna
Kostas Sloukas
Ricardo Ratliffe
Maalik Wayns
Josep Franch
Zack Rosen
Reggie Hamilton
Rakim Sanders
Charlie Westbrook
Devoe Joseph
Garrett Stutz
Ashton Gibbs
Renardo Sidney

Summer League is going to be really tough for some of these guys.

A couple guys I'm interested in (not necessarily for the Bucks but just in general):
Machado
Drew Gordon
Kevin Jones (just to see if he can make it in the NBA at all)
John Shurna (basically sounds like a clone of Steve Novak)

[DukeC]

Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

A few undrafted free agents

Scott Machado
Kevin Jones
Drew Gordon
William Buford
Tu Holloway
Casper Ware
J'Covan Brown
JaMychal Green
Eric Griffin
Leon Radosevic
Jordan Taylor
Terrell Stoglin
Hollis Thompson
Nihad Djedovic
Mitchell Watt
Dusan Cantekin
Yancy Gates
Tony Mitchell
Henry Sims
Josh Owens
Herb Pope
Dee Bost
Alex Young
John Shurna
Kostas Sloukas
Ricardo Ratliffe
Maalik Wayns
Josep Franch
Zack Rosen
Reggie Hamilton
Rakim Sanders
Charlie Westbrook
Devoe Joseph
Garrett Stutz
Ashton Gibbs
Renardo Sidney

Summer League is going to be really tough for some of these guys.

All the guys I bolded are going to find themself a team. Why? Because they are too good not to. They all fulfill a certain niche or role that a team needs.

[roadman]

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Can't believe Lamb fell to us this late. After a long night, I guess I am not too disappointed.

2nd round pick was better than 1st round pick.

Another Jodie Meeks with better D. He better keep Lamb instead of trading him like Meeks.

[37]

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Did the Rockets really just acquire ANOTHER PF through trade?

What is the plan here?

this is gettin ridiculous if true....not another European stashed away for a year or two that cant help right away...what did the Rockets even give away?

[Marino]

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[LucasWVU]

All the guys I bolded are going to find themself a team. Why? Because they are too good not to. They all fulfill a certain niche or role that a team needs.

As much gold and blue that I have in my blood, I don't believe that Kevin Jones can make it. But I thought I would share this depressing statistic with you guys.

2nd rd pick Izzet Turkyilmaz avg'd 2.1 pts and 2.0 rebs playing in Turkey. Undrafted Kevin Jones averaged 20/10 in the Big East. G'night. -- Chris Anderson (@CAnderson247WVU)

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[SteelersFreak]

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Missed the draft but not surprising to see the Mavs make the move they did. Zeller isn't likely to be the answer at center, and the Mavs cleared out Azubuike's contract, and freed up a little more money to go after free agents. The Mavs right now aren't looking to necessarily build for the future, they're looking for pieces to lure D-Will and pieces to place around D-Will and Dirk if D-Will gets here so they can compete for a title. People have been saying Jared Cunningham could be the steal of the draft and I like the way his play style sounds, hard nosed defensive minded guy, I like that, we were missing some of that this past year. Iffy on James, I know he's a talent, but he's 27 years old. And Jae Crowder was Big East player of the year, so that's gotta stand for something.

[dynamicswish]

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I've decided that the Bobcats realized that they can't score, so they pick a couple defensive guys so that other teams can't score either,

[ScoobySnax]

The Dion Waiters pick reminds me of the Russell Westbrook pick in 2008. Everybody was wondering why they picked him that high, but they aren't saying a thing now. Waiters can have that same type of impact. He's really good. The Cavs did well. They got who they WANTED. Who cares if he went a few spots "too early."


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[b2tha2ndpwr]

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I've decided that the Bobcats realized that they can't score, so they pick a couple defensive guys so that other teams can't score either,

Jeff Taylor's turned himself into a very good shooter over the years. And I must be the only person who thinks Michael Kidd-Gilchrist can end up being a good offensive player. Could end up with a Paul Pierce type offensive game, both have not so textbook looking jump shots

Paul Pierce's freshman season

MIN FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG TPG BPG SPG PPG
95-96 Kansas 25.4 41.9 30.4 60.6 5.3 1.8 2.4 0.8 1.3 11.9

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left" width="10%">SEASON</td> <td>TEAM</td> <td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Minutes">MIN</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Field Goals Made-Attempted">FGM-FGA</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Field Goal Percentage">FG%</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="3 Point Field Goals Made-Attempted">3PM-3PA</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="3 Point Field Goal Percentage">3P%</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Free Throws Made-Attempted">FTM-FTA</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Free Throw Percentage">FT%</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Rebounds">REB</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Assists">AST</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Blocks">BLK</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Steals">STL</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Fouls">PF</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Turnovers">TO</td><td style="text-align:right !important;" title="Points">PTS</td></tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2011-12</td> <td>UK</td> <td style="text-align: right;">31.1</td><td style="text-align: right;">4.0-8.2</td><td style="text-align: right;">.491</td><td style="text-align: right;">0.3-1.3</td><td style="text-align: right;">.255</td><td style="text-align: right;">3.6-4.8</td><td style="text-align: right;">.745</td><td style="text-align: right;">7.4</td><td style="text-align: right;">1.9</td><td style="text-align: right;">0.9</td><td style="text-align: right;">1.0</td><td style="text-align: right;">2.4</td><td style="text-align: right;">2.2</td><td style="text-align: right;">11.9</td></tr></tbody></table>
Pierce wasn't the best shooter as a college freshman but made it work!

edit: Sorry that came out so deformed, I was trying to show that Pierce's shooting percentages of 30% from 3 and 60% from the line as a freshman while having a less than stellar looking J gives hope for Kidd-Gilchrist's shooting potential

[Cavsfan4life]

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The Dion Waiters pick reminds me of the Russell Westbrook pick in 2008. Everybody was wondering why they picked him that high, but they aren't saying a thing now. Waiters can have that same type of impact. He's really good. The Cavs did well. They got who they WANTED. Who cares if he went a few spots "too early."


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Agreed. After the 1st pick, 2-10 could of had a variety of different picks. We had 4 picks in the draft this year, and left the draft with potentially two starters in Waiters and Zeller. Barnes will be a good player, but his skillset IMO doesnt help our team as much offensively as Waiters does. Last year, after the Sessions trade, it was hard for players other than Kyrie to consistently create their own shot. Waiters at SG can create his own shot and is also decent off the ball. Zeller gives us a offensive minded C with legit size to go alongside Thompson.

Kyrie, Waiters, Gee?, TT, Zeller. Thats a solid young core IMO, especially if Gee makes a bigger improvement much like last season.

[Checmate101]

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Did my boy Peyton Siva come out this year? or he stayed at Louisville. Was looking for him to get drafted

[DukeC]

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Did my boy Peyton Siva come out this year? or he stayed at Louisville. Was looking for him to get drafted

He stayed.

The PG class is even weaker next year so he made the right move.

[BlueNGold]

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I just don't like the fact Waiters wasn't even a starter at Syracuse. That scares me taking a guy who wasn't a starter in college in the top 5.

I almost would have rather taken the gamble on Drummond, especially since the Cavs were one of the few teams in position to take him that have a top PG, but whatever.

Hopefully Waiters makes me look like a fool for questioning this pick.

I C WAT U DID THAR.

Wow, didn't even realize I spelled it that way.

What's the point of drafting him if DeRozan is SG? Can Ross play SF or something, cause that's only way he'll get lots of minutes.

BC BETTER have something else in mind. Big FA signings or something, or else this Raptors team will suck again, and the Raptors and their arena will become the Phoenix Coyotes of the NBA.

DeMar would move to SF, not Ross. DeMar is much better suited as a SF anyways, because his handles are pretty ****ty and his shooting isn't much better either (although it did improve last year).

[Checmate101]

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Still head scratching our 2nd round pick...much rather had stashed Deron Lamb then this dude