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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
    Once in a Lifetime Memory
    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #1501
    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

    As every source is now saying the Bucks are in love with Terrence Jones and John Henson, I'm starting to check them out a little bit more.

    Jones at least has a great build and a great first step, and if he's playing as a PF, I think he'll be able to face-up a lot of big men in the NBA and get past them, but I still just don't think he's going to pan out.

    Do you guys think Henson will ever fill out? He has a great frame, but he's so freaking skinny. If he fills out a bit, and even gets to like Chris Bosh-ish size, I think he could be a good NBA player.
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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #1502
      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

      Jones looks like a poor man's David West. At least to me he does. Poor handles, decent shot, decent low post game, undersized...meh.

      I like Henson, myself. I think he'll be an extremely solid 3rd big man in the NBA. Will he be a superstar or even a starter? Maybe not, but he'll have a long NBA career.
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      • da ThRONe
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        • Mar 2009
        • 8528

        #1503
        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

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        • da ThRONe
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          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #1504
          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
          Jones looks like a poor man's David West. At least to me he does. Poor handles, decent shot, decent low post game, undersized...meh.

          I like Henson, myself. I think he'll be an extremely solid 3rd big man in the NBA. Will he be a superstar or even a starter? Maybe not, but he'll have a long NBA career.
          Jones is a much better athlete than West. He also has range out to the three point line. Also West isn't the tyoe of player that's going to beat you off the dribble. I think the two are very different.
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          • Yeah...THAT Guy
            Once in a Lifetime Memory
            • Dec 2006
            • 17294

            #1505
            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

            Ugh, Jones doesn't even look good in highlight videos. He just doesn't play like an NBA player.
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            • DukeC
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 5751

              #1506
              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
              As every source is now saying the Bucks are in love with Terrence Jones and John Henson, I'm starting to check them out a little bit more.

              Jones at least has a great build and a great first step, and if he's playing as a PF, I think he'll be able to face-up a lot of big men in the NBA and get past them, but I still just don't think he's going to pan out.

              Do you guys think Henson will ever fill out? He has a great frame, but he's so freaking skinny. If he fills out a bit, and even gets to like Chris Bosh-ish size, I think he could be a good NBA player.
              Jones is an exceptional athlete. I don't think there are a lot of PF's that can deal with his quickness of the dribble. He can definitely face up and he has range out to the 3. He seems comfortable shooting there, but looks more like a streak shooter than a knock em down kind of guy. He also plays some good post D. This was the guy who shut down Thomas Robinson during the National Championship game. So, he has some strength, unlike the next guy......

              Pass on Henson. Pass, Pass, Pass. 220-230 is about as big as he's going to get. He gives up good position waaaaaaaaaay to often because he doesn't have a good base and his upper body strength is non-existant. He's not going to be able to finish in traffic. He can knock down that 15ft jumper though.

              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
              Jones looks like a poor man's David West. At least to me he does. Poor handles, decent shot, decent low post game, undersized...meh.

              I like Henson, myself. I think he'll be an extremely solid 3rd big man in the NBA. Will he be a superstar or even a starter? Maybe not, but he'll have a long NBA career.
              He plays nothing like West. He plays more like Blake in that he'll put it on the floor and try to blow past you. Which he's certainly capable of doing. His handles are more than enough to get him past the backup bigman he's likely to be facing if he comes off the bench.

              The only thing about Henson I like is that he can block shots and knock down a 15 ft jumper. You'd be getting a less athletic Serge Ibaka with less potential than Serge Ibaka himself.

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              • Weeks
                L Corleone
                • Aug 2009
                • 2990

                #1507
                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                Sounds to me like Terrence Jones is a poor mans Derrick Williams. A tweener who has range, can face, up and has the size of a pf with the athleticism of a SF.

                Also here's an article of 7 players that would be perfect fits for teams:
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                • DukeC
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 5751

                  #1508
                  Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by Weeks
                  Sounds to me like Terrence Jones is a poor mans Derrick Williams. A tweener who has range, can face, up and has the size of a pf with the athleticism of a SF.

                  Also here's an article of 7 players that would be perfect fits for teams:
                  http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/06...-destinations/
                  You know what Derrick Williams can't do?

                  Play defense. And, when Terrence is focused, he's a very good post defender. Something Derrick is not. But, that's still an accurate comparison from an offensive skills set point. I will say that Terrence is the better ball-handler.

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                  • justblaze09
                    Swaggy Poole
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 3523

                    #1509
                    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                    I'm sold on Zeller and Meyers now at 9. I just want Monroe at the 4.

                    If they actually pull the trigger on Henson, I might break (big might) something
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                    • Chrisksaint
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19127

                      #1510
                      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                      I don't mind nabbing Millsap, but that's depending on the availability at #10.

                      Depending what Portland does at #6 that'll trickle down to what the Hornets do, have a feeling Liliard could be there at #10 if Portland doesn't pick him(Want Rivers, but have a feeling Portland, GS or TOR will pull the trigger )
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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #1511
                        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Terrance Jones is just blah. He's undersized and the athletic advantage he had at UK won't be there in the pros. He doesn't have a stand out skill and his weaknesses were hidden by the ridiculous talent UK had the two years he was there. And he goes left, goes left and then tries to go left some more.
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
                          Once in a Lifetime Memory
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #1512
                          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                          From what I've seen, this is my break-down of Terrence Jones.

                          Strengths:
                          Defense, Build, Quick First Step, Good ball-handling/passing for a PF

                          Watching his highlights and his strengths and weaknesses breakdown and stuff, he seems like he'll be a very good defender at the next level. At about 6'10" with a 7'2" wingspan and 250-260 pounds already, he already has a good NBA body. He moves well for somebody his size, and uses his length well, which bodes well for him as a post defender (and also sometimes getting caught in switches on pick and rolls). He racked up about 2 blocks and 1 steal per game this past year while playing 29 minutes per game. Again, as a result of his good mobility for a big man, he's able to take advantage of this offensively some, by beating a lot of people with just one dribble and a quick first step. He can also handle the ball a little bit and passes decently for a big man.

                          Weaknesses: Finishing, Motor, Disappearing in games

                          Statistically, he's one of the worst big men in the draft class as far as finishing around the rim is concerned. This is made that much worse considering the fact that he had a major size and strength advantage at the college level that he probably won't have in the NBA. There's also been questions about his motor. Also, looking at his box scores, he's had a lot of horrific games, shooting below 30% in a bunch of games in his short career.

                          In my opinion, best case scenario, you're looking at a guy that defends well and gives you 10-12 points, 6-7 rebounds, 2-3 assists, and a steal and a block per game. Worst case scenario, I could see him becoming absolutely buried on a team's bench.

                          As a Bucks fan, I still don't want him. At the PF position, we already have Drew Gooden, Ekpe Udoh, Larry Sanders, Luc Richard Mbah A Moute, and possibly Ersan Ilyasova. It would be one thing if Jones was a rare talent at the PF position that would likely be an upgrade over these guys, but I personally don't think he would overtake any of them for at least a few years. I think it's much more important for Milwaukee to get Zeller/Leonard/Melo to address the center position, or take a wing (Lamb, Ross, PJIII).
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                          • Drewski
                            Basketball Reasons
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3783

                            #1513
                            Really just tagging myself into this thread because its easier to find in Tapatalk, but excited for the draft tomorrow. I've been looking up a lot of these incoming cats and its quite muddled. Going to be interesting to see who can translate

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #1514
                              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                              Not feeling Jones and never really have.

                              Decent first step(when he's not hooking of course)wasn't impressed with his post game(considering he was usually bigger/stronger than the person guarding him)and seemed to struggle with even basic fundamentals. He's basically a player that should've been best or at the least 2nd best player on the court each time but looked to be content just being on the floor.

                              I don't think he's Top 10 pick but I wouldn't be surprised if someone up there chose him based on his measurements and numbers, which wouldn't be the first time that happened.

                              Pass on Henson. Pass, Pass, Pass. 220-230 is about as big as he's going to get. He gives up good position waaaaaaaaaay to often because he doesn't have a good base and his upper body strength is non-existant. He's not going to be able to finish in traffic. He can knock down that 15ft jumper though.
                              He's 216 right now so if he gets in that mid 220 range then that would be perfect for him. But then again, I've always thought that weight was overrated when it comes to the NBA.

                              He's raw as **** Offensively(not a surprise)but defensively, he's solid there, along with the rebounding. Not a Top 10 or even Top 16 pick to me honestly so I do see why That Guy is not a fan of the Bucks possibly taking him that high.
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #1515
                                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                                Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
                                Ex-Kentucky forward Terrence Jones will be sitting in stands during the NBA Draft after not receiving green room invite. Keep eye on Sixers.
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