Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

[JerzeyReign]

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The OP said this moment not this year

If this year then Rose wouldnt even be in the discussion from injury

Dirk is definitely a top player in the league... Kevin Love's empty stats led his team to nowhere

Top player, yes -- Top 5... well, I know you're not trying to say that so I'll leave it alone

[ojandpizza]

To me this moment=this year.

For career, Dirk is probably third behind Kobe and Duncan.

Then where is LeBron for career? Doesn't he have any many MVPs as all of them combined? lol

[BringTheHeat]

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Then where is LeBron for career? Doesn't he have any many MVPs as all of them combined? lol

To me, if LeBron wins just one ring, that 's all he needs. He will be top 5 of all time. The man is just the complete basketball player, and he's only 27.

[DieHardYankee26]

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To me, if LeBron wins just one ring, that 's all he needs. He will be top 5 of all time. The man is just the complete basketball player, and he's only 27.

Top 5 all time after 1 ring?!?! You're saying that would put him above over half of these people:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Larry Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Wilt
7. Shaq
8. Tim Duncan
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Jerry West
11. Hakeem Olajuwon

No way he's top 5 all time. I just can't see it. I would have to see you make a list of your top 5 right now. If LeBron wins one ring, he's still the 4th most accomplished player of his time, with Kobe, Shaq, and Tim Duncan ahead of him.

[Sportsbuck]

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Quick and dirty list,

1. Wilt
2. Jordan
3. Bird
4. Shaq
5. LeBron

Wow. I don't even know what to say.

[Sportsbuck]

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Could start with, "Oh that's your opinion? I respect that."

Calm down. Never said I didn't respect it, just that I completely disagree on a number of levels.

[Zer0xray]

It was hard watching Kobe play this season. He became such a chucker, but I guess he had no choice. I figured by now he'd change his game like mj did when he got older tho... Not sure when he's gonna do that

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[JerzeyReign]

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Top 5 all time after 1 ring?!?! You're saying that would put him above over half of these people:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Larry Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Wilt
7. Shaq
8. Tim Duncan
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Jerry West
11. Hakeem Olajuwon

No way he's top 5 all time. I just can't see it. I would have to see you make a list of your top 5 right now. If LeBron wins one ring, he's still the 4th most accomplished player of his time, with Kobe, Shaq, and Tim Duncan ahead of him.

Man, you can't use the ring argument when discussing greatness, it just doesn't work. I'd have John Stockton, Lenny Wilkens, or Pistol Pete run my offense over Derrick Fisher anyday of the week. Robert Horry has nothing on George Gervin -- he was ICE COLD! Lets not forget about Elgin Baylor -- man, Baylor is EASILY a top 10 player IN THE HISTORY of the NBA. And he doesn't have a ring or a MVP award.

I don't think Lebron deserves to be mentioned in the Top 5 players of all time right now but if he wins one ring by the time he hangs them up (and he produces at this rate) he'll probably be Top 3 of all time. Just my opinion, the guy can do it all. Score, pass, rebound, and defend -- that is just amazing to me.

I only assume your post is alluding to them having more rings than Lebron. If its not, my bad.

And I'll leave on this -- START GIVING BAYLOR SOME LOVE!!!!

[wwharton]

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It was hard watching Kobe play this season. He became such a chucker, but I guess he had no choice. I figured by now he'd change his game like mj did when he got older tho... Not sure when he's gonna do that

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He already has, and has been pretty much a jump shooter for a few years now. Kobe isn't too far from Jordan on the Wizards at this point... and he was pretty much a chucker.

Man, you can't use the ring argument when discussing greatness, it just doesn't work. I'd have John Stockton, Lenny Wilkens, or Pistol Pete run my offense over Derrick Fisher anyday of the week. Robert Horry has nothing on George Gervin -- he was ICE COLD! Lets not forget about Elgin Baylor -- man, Baylor is EASILY a top 10 player IN THE HISTORY of the NBA. And he doesn't have a ring or a MVP award.

I don't think Lebron deserves to be mentioned in the Top 5 players of all time right now but if he wins one ring by the time he hangs them up (and he produces at this rate) he'll probably be Top 3 of all time. Just my opinion, the guy can do it all. Score, pass, rebound, and defend -- that is just amazing to me.

I only assume your post is alluding to them having more rings than Lebron. If its not, my bad.

And I'll leave on this -- START GIVING BAYLOR SOME LOVE!!!!

You just wrote a paragraph on how rings shouldn't matter and then said James is top 3 with a ring, lol.

You can't bring up Fisher, Horry and the like in this discussion. The introduction of rings here is to separate the best of the best so it's not an end all, be all but it carries some weight. I think your point about Baylor is 100% correct in this regard though.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Man, you can't use the ring argument when discussing greatness, it just doesn't work. I'd have John Stockton, Lenny Wilkens, or Pistol Pete run my offense over Derrick Fisher anyday of the week. Robert Horry has nothing on George Gervin -- he was ICE COLD! Lets not forget about Elgin Baylor -- man, Baylor is EASILY a top 10 player IN THE HISTORY of the NBA. And he doesn't have a ring or a MVP award.

I don't think Lebron deserves to be mentioned in the Top 5 players of all time right now but if he wins one ring by the time he hangs them up (and he produces at this rate) he'll probably be Top 3 of all time. Just my opinion, the guy can do it all. Score, pass, rebound, and defend -- that is just amazing to me.

I only assume your post is alluding to them having more rings than Lebron. If its not, my bad.

And I'll leave on this -- START GIVING BAYLOR SOME LOVE!!!!

My post wasn't about rings. It was because someone said that if LeBron had a ring, he would automatically be top 5 all time. I don't think LeBron with one ring is any better than any of the players I mentioned. And I also don't think Baylor is top 5 or 10 either. Who on my list would you put Baylor over? And I left Bill Russell off of my list as well.

[K.So]

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IMO:

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Kobe
5. Howard

[BringTheHeat]

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My post wasn't about rings. It was because someone said that if LeBron had a ring, he would automatically be top 5 all time. I don't think LeBron with one ring is any better than any of the players I mentioned. And I also don't think Baylor is top 5 or 10 either. Who on my list would you put Baylor over? And I left Bill Russell off of my list as well.

Why did you leave Russ off btw?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Why did you leave Russ off btw?

I'm guessing by saying "And I left Russell off the list as well" was his way of saying he forgot about him.

[Vni]

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Had a dream this night, Kobe was playing for San Antonio.

Don't ask me what to make of this.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Why did you leave Russ off btw?

I'm guessing by saying "And I left Russell off the list as well" was his way of saying he forgot about him.

Yeah I just forgot him.