Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

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  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21554

    #16
    Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

    Yes, Kobe Bryant is still a top five player in the NBA. The Lakers were eliminated from the playoffs because they have little to no depth and at-best ordinary play at the point guard position.

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    • lilbiggio
      MVP
      • Jun 2004
      • 2105

      #17
      Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

      I don't know what's more disrespectful, saying Kobe isn't a top 5 player or implying that he should be just because he's played the longest out of the guys being discussed.

      That's like saying someone should be the boss not because of the work they put in, but because they simply been working in the company the longest.

      LOL at Laker fans giving Kobe a lifetime contract for being a concensus top 5 player. You should only put a guy's career in a whole if you're looking at it from a career sense. Kobe might be a top 5 box office guy, he might be top 5 most respected due to what he's done in the past... but just pure skills, the league is catching up and his automatic alpha dog spot year in and year out is definately up for debate now.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #18
        Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

        So who would you trade for him who you put in that list right now?

        A 30 something year old with a low shooting percentage and with a massive contract

        Sorry, IM taking Bron, Durant, Dirk, Rose, Howard, (possible CP3 Rondo... and to a lesser extent a Melo right now today, depending on the roster)


        More than anything I think it speaks to the product in the NBA right now.

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        • Hooe
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 21554

          #19
          Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

          Originally posted by 23
          So who would you trade for him who you put in that list right now?

          A 30 something year old with a low shooting percentage and with a massive contract

          Sorry, IM taking Bron, Durant, Dirk, Rose, Howard, (possible CP3 Rondo... and to a lesser extent a Melo right now today, depending on the roster)
          What do contract and age have to do with any player's present-day skill set and ability level?

          Kobe is indeed more of a volume scorer now, though, as he's obviously no longer at his athletic peak.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #20
            Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

            Originally posted by CHooe
            What do contract and age have to do with any player's present-day skill set and ability level?

            Kobe is indeed more of a volume scorer now, though, as he's obviously no longer at his athletic peak.
            Will you take everything I said and put it together and not take parts

            I said who would you trade and it takes all of that into consideration

            Im sorry, Kobe is a volume shooter and it doesnt change anything I just said, contract or not

            Even with 2 of the games best big men hovering over him he still had a a pretty meh year, athletic or not, he's mostly a jumpshooter at this point, and he takes way too many low IQ shots on top of that.

            Not bashing him, but im not sure what your argument is because my answer is as subjective as the rest of you, and I'd have to say no as of today

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            • Vni
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2011
              • 14833

              #21
              Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

              I still find it very hard to compare players from different position or even compare players from different teams. I mean look at Kobe's season, playing heavy minutes, had to do almost everything for the first half of the season when nobody else would show up for games (Pau & Bynum), nobody else had any shooting rythm (Blake, Barns, Fisher). Sure he takes bad shots, sometimes they're really uncalled for, but a lot of the times if he doesn't the shot clock violation rings.
              Last edited by Vni; 06-09-2012, 03:51 PM.

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              • Weeks
                L Corleone
                • Aug 2009
                • 2990

                #22
                Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                I made this list a couple days ago. Everything is based off regular season stats except for EYE, Clutch, Impact, and Defense.
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                • Kashanova
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 12695

                  #23
                  Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                  Originally posted by Weeks
                  I made this list a couple days ago. Everything is based off regular season stats except for EYE, Clutch, Impact, and Defense.
                  i agree with that list instead Kobe would be at # 10 for me

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                  • KSOR24
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 949

                    #24
                    Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                    Originally posted by Weeks
                    I made this list a couple days ago. Everything is based off regular season stats except for EYE, Clutch, Impact, and Defense.
                    It's funny to say Blake Griffin is even comparable to Kobe. If you want to look at another part of his game Kobe is a better defender than Kevin Durant.
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                    • Weeks
                      L Corleone
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2990

                      #25
                      Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      i agree with that list instead Kobe would be at # 10 for me
                      yeah, I feel like it turned out pretty good. I had trouble picking between Deron Williams and Russell westbrook for that tenth spot, but I think westbrook was better THIS season and these are my rankings for 2012.

                      Originally posted by KSOR24
                      It's funny to say Blake Griffin is even comparable to Kobe. If you want to look at another part of his game Kobe is a better defender than Kevin Durant.
                      Which is why Kobe is ranked higher in the DEF category than Durant is
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                      • RedSceptile
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3680

                        #26
                        Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                        Your DEF rating are all pretty wonky to be honest.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #27
                          Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                          Kobe doesnt play defense to be honest with you

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                          • Weeks
                            L Corleone
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2990

                            #28
                            Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                            Originally posted by RedSceptile
                            Your DEF rating are all pretty wonky to be honest.
                            what is you're ranking of them? (I'm not challenging you or anything, I just want to know)

                            there is no real overall defensive stat, so that ranking was purely opinionated, but I tried to rank them correctly

                            I want this list to be accurate, so I'd like any input on the categories that aren't ranked by stats (eye, def, clutch, impact)
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                            • Weeks
                              L Corleone
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2990

                              #29
                              Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                              And do you guys for the most part agree with the top ten I selected?

                              There were only 2 real questionable ones; griffin and westbrook.

                              But I felt they were the two best this season of the "pool" of other candidates:

                              Griffin
                              Westbrook
                              Deron Williams
                              Dirk
                              Carmelo
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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #30
                                Re: Is Kobe Bryant A Top 5 Player in the NBA At This Very Moment?

                                There is no way I take Wade over him. Outside of a that one monster half he has been pretty suspect in the playoffs. Factor in age (30) and injuries and I think were starting to see the decline of Flash.

                                I'm not sold on Rose long-term either because of the injuries. Hopefully he proves me wrong because he seems like a good hard-working kid.
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