****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

[ex carrabba fan]

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Shaq is different than almost any other player in the nba right now you see out there

While yes they should be trying to be productive on the floor... even Shaq wasnt asked to play those heavy minutes and do everything

Shaq and Kobe were depended upon to do pretty much everything on both ends, all of the heavy lifting and creating much like Wade/LeBron.

I can rattle off a bunch of other players who have logged as many minutes as LeBron, not just Shaq.

Point is, LeBron has been playing a ton yes, but it's been done before in similar situations.

[23]

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Shaq and Kobe were depended upon to do pretty much everything on both ends, all of the heavy lifting and creating much like Wade/LeBron.

I can rattle off a bunch of other players who have logged as many minutes as LeBron, not just Shaq.

Point is, LeBron has been playing a ton yes, but it's been done before in similar situations.

Again, this is all bearing LeBron play all 48 minutes and lead in scoring, assists, rebounds, play all world defense, then hit all the clutch buckets

LeBron is not a robot and if you continue to rely on the team for that, you're going to flame out at some point, and it doesnt take long

.....and comparing LeBron to freaking Shaq is a sham. Shaq was bigger than every player who ever stepped on the court with him, and he still had tons of help when he actually won, and dont even give me that stuff man, the Lakers were freaking stacked

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Again, he is 27 years old and playing 48 minutes or basically his average for 4 more games like he's doing now isn't going to kill him or shorten his career like he's a freaking RB.

Again, this is all bearing LeBron play all 48 minutes and lead in scoring, assists, rebounds, play all world defense, then hit all the clutch buckets

This is assuming that neither Bosh nor Wade show up to any games of course, otherwise there is no need for him to do all of that in 48 minutes nor has he since he's been in Miami.

If Miami loses this series, it won't be because of Lebron playing too many minutes I can tell you that much.

[King_B_Mack]

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In fairness 23, you're being a bit of a hypocrite on this. You were killing the TNT guys a couple weeks ago about bellowing on and on about the Thunder shooting jumpshots and not being able to survive like that despite them doing it all the time and here you are going about LeBron's minutes and how Spo relies on him and Wade when that's pretty much every team with a star in the league EVER. LeBron right now at 27 is averaging 42.4 minutes per game in the playoffs. Jordan in '98 at 34 was averaging 41.5 and the year before that in '97 was averaging 42.3. I don't think it's near as big a deal as you're making it.

[23]

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Again, he is 27 years old and playing 48 minutes or basically his average for 4 more games like he's doing now isn't going to kill him or shorten his career like he's a freaking RB.


This is assuming that neither Bosh nor Wade show up to any games of course, otherwise there is no need for him to do all of that in 48 minutes nor has he since he's been in Miami.

If Miami loses this series, it won't be because of Lebron playing too many minutes I can tell you that much.

Ok man... im not talking age here.. Ask Rose how he got so banged up

From having to do too much.. I dont care how old you are, you still arent superman, and im sorry but Spoelstra has a very sorry offense and I've been sitting here watching his team for some time now mostly win games where either Wade or Bron or both are having to have super games for them to win only and it has become what he has relied on, now Bron is playing full games with zero rest.

Its the fact that the man has nothing else to pull up besides that. You can say what you will about me, but If I don't think he's that great of a coach and make no mistake he is NOT.. .then I question some of the decisions he makes.

I speaking going forward and how the coach is using the team, and I dont like it. Dont' have to agree but im surely not in love with how he uses those guys, and to be honest they save him quite a bit.

[23]

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In fairness 23, you're being a bit of a hypocrite on this. You were killing the TNT guys a couple weeks ago about bellowing on and on about the Thunder shooting jumpshots and not being able to survive like that despite them doing it all the time and here you are going about LeBron's minutes and how Spo relies on him and Wade when that's pretty much every team with a star in the league EVER. LeBron right now at 27 is averaging 42.4 minutes per game in the playoffs. Jordan in '98 at 34 was averaging 41.5 and the year before that in '97 was averaging 42.3. I don't think it's near as big a deal as you're making it.

HUH?

The Thunder are a team, what does that have to do with using one guy for 48 minutes every night?

Dude you're all over the place.. who are you using in comparison to LeBron.. the Thunder team or MJ?

Please give a direct statement before you call me a hypocrite because I dont even know what you're talking about here.

I said Reggie Miller made a career shooting jumpers then he says the Thunder are in trouble because they shoot jumpers, and when they won he said nothing... Thats not even the same thing we're talking about here

[lonewolf371]

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After reading this:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168311/do-you-know-your-enemy-why-we-should-all-root-miami-heat-beat-oklahoma-city-thunder#

I'm going to switch to the Heat. I forgot how the Thunder exited Seattle.

[Feared]

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Now that I think of it, is it just me or...

Spoiler

Does Erik Spoelstra look very much like


Enrique Iglesias? or they could at least be long lost brothers or something.

[J_Posse]

I still think Dwyane Wade is playing extra hurt and just isn't saying anything. He missed a fourth of the season and I think that's still bothering him.

His foot is probably still bothering him from the plantir fascitis (sp). That is a lingering injury that can't be alleviated without rest (3 to 4 months). I wouldn't be surprised if Wade elects not to go to London and partcipate in the Olympics.

From Spurs Nation/Bills Backer Clubhouse

[SteelersFreak]

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After reading this:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168311/do-you-know-your-enemy-why-we-should-all-root-miami-heat-beat-oklahoma-city-thunder#

I'm going to switch to the Heat. I forgot how the Thunder exited Seattle.

Except the only person who anyone should be mad at is Bennett. The players shouldn't be rooted against because he's an *******, they didn't do anything wrong. I'm not rooting for the organization, I would rather see Durant and the gang win than see LeBron and his band of misfits.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Why hate Clay Bennett for taking the team to his home? Shouldn't you hate Stern for co-signing and allowing the team to move? Sure Bennett lied, but Stern knew what was going to happen. He's at fault if anyone is, I would think.

[phenom1990]

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Again, this is all bearing LeBron play all 48 minutes and lead in scoring, assists, rebounds, play all world defense, then hit all the clutch buckets

LeBron is not a robot and if you continue to rely on the team for that, you're going to flame out at some point, and it doesnt take long

.....and comparing LeBron to freaking Shaq is a sham. Shaq was bigger than every player who ever stepped on the court with him, and he still had tons of help when he actually won, and dont even give me that stuff man, the Lakers were freaking stacked

Who gets more worn down? Lebron playing 42 plus minutes or the opponent's defense for defending him for 42 plus minutes.

I think at his current age, he would wear down the opponent's defense more.

[phenom1990]

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Why hate Clay Bennett for taking the team to his home? Shouldn't you hate Stern for co-signing and allowing the team to move? Sure Bennett lied, but Stern knew what was going to happen. He's at fault if anyone is, I would think.

Does anybody with any legal knowledge... know if Stern would have been able to legally block a team from moving? I always got the impression that Stern wouldn't be able to block it.

[Vast]

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I can't believe how many people are picking Miami to win. OKC dismantled the best teams in the league. That Spurs team would've torn Miami a new one. The Heat struggled against an old *** Celtics squad and lost 2 games to a soft *** Pacers team.

OKC is battle tested, roster is well equipped, and has home court advantage. KD is the best offensive player in the game and Westbrook is an athletic/ speed freak that is impossible to guard.

Its OKC's time, the Heat are lucky to even be in the finals right now.

Thunder in 6 and i think thats being generous.

[lonewolf371]

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Except the only person who anyone should be mad at is Bennett. The players shouldn't be rooted against because he's an *******, they didn't do anything wrong. I'm not rooting for the organization, I would rather see Durant and the gang win than see LeBron and his band of misfits.

The players aren't the ones that get the trophy.