****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

[capp34]

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I can't believe how many people are picking Miami to win. OKC dismantled the best teams in the league. That Spurs team would've torn Miami a new one. The Heat struggled against an old *** Celtics squad and lost 2 games to a soft *** Pacers team.

All while missing their 3rd best player.

[King_B_Mack]

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HUH?

The Thunder are a team, what does that have to do with using one guy for 48 minutes every night?

Dude you're all over the place.. who are you using in comparison to LeBron.. the Thunder team or MJ?

Please give a direct statement before you call me a hypocrite because I dont even know what you're talking about here.

I said Reggie Miller made a career shooting jumpers then he says the Thunder are in trouble because they shoot jumpers, and when they won he said nothing... Thats not even the same thing we're talking about here

I'm simply saying you were going off on them about how little sense they were making about saying they couldn't survive shooting jumpshots and how they were pounding that topic into the ground the whole night, when as you pointed out Reggie made a career shooting jumpers. Meanwhile here now, you've been pounding this Spo relying on Bron/Wade point into the ground for a while now when every team in the league that has a superstar relies on their stars to do everything. Not trying to personally attack you or anything so don't take it that way. But right now you're beating on a topic that's really a non issue, because it happens for every team, that's where the Jordan stat comes in, it's been going on for quite some time now.

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Who gets more worn down? Lebron playing 42 plus minutes or the opponent's defense for defending him for 42 plus minutes.

I think at his current age, he would wear down the opponent's defense more.

he's playing 48 minutes not 42 minutes

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I'm simply saying you were going off on them about how little sense they were making about saying they couldn't survive shooting jumpshots and how they were pounding that topic into the ground the whole night, when as you pointed out Reggie made a career shooting jumpers. Meanwhile here now, you've been pounding this Spo relying on Bron/Wade point into the ground for a while now when every team in the league that has a superstar relies on their stars to do everything. Not trying to personally attack you or anything so don't take it that way. But right now you're beating on a topic that's really a non issue, because it happens for every team, that's where the Jordan stat comes in, it's been going on for quite some time now.

you lost me

Sorry



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[The 24th Letter]

That "Team A will beat Team B because they easily beat a tougher Team C & D" thing gets me every time...

It's been proven wrong constantly. They still have to put the ball on the court, let's see what happens.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Ok man... im not talking age here.. Ask Rose how he got so banged up

Yeah, I'm sure Rose is going to say, "Pack I tore my knee up from playing too many minutes." The notion that Rose blew out his knee because he played too many minutes was stupid then and it's still stupid now. Next question...

From having to do too much.. I dont care how old you are, you still arent superman, and im sorry but Spoelstra has a very sorry offense and I've been sitting here watching his team for some time now mostly win games where either Wade or Bron or both are having to have super games for them to win only and it has become what he has relied on, now Bron is playing full games with zero rest.

Why are we talking about Spoelstra and his offense? That's not the argument nor did I or have I argued that his Offense was even average. Hell, I stopped defending him after Game 2 and only bring him because I know YOU specifically don't like him and think he's the worst coach to walk this earth LOL.

My argument was whether Lebron can play 48 for FOUR more games. I'm not worried about the future just like I'm sure Lebron isn't either. He's worried about winning these 4 games and getting his ring, not about if he'll be able to play in 2019-2020. That's irrelevant to ME at this point, especially if I(me)were the Coach.

I speaking going forward and how the coach is using the team, and I dont like it. Dont' have to agree but im surely not in love with how he uses those guys, and to be honest they save him quite a bit.

Trust I know you don't like the dude, you've made that clear enough plenty of times already.

I think Lebron can play a full 48 minutes in these next 4 games WHILE getting support from Bosh and Wade(notice I never said play out of this world, which I said earlier there is/was a difference) to win a championship RIGHT NOW and you don't and it is what it is. Luckily for everyone, we'll find out starting tomorrow.

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Yeah, I'm sure Rose is going to say, "Pack I tore my knee up from playing too many minutes." The notion that Rose blew out his knee because he played too many minutes was stupid then and it's still stupid now. Next question...

You know thats awesome man... Just awesome, because even though people were arguing he should've been out of the game, I NEVER SAID HIS KNEE.... because the fact is the dude was fighting injuries long before that.

Why are we talking about Spoelstra and his offense? That's not the argument nor did I or have I argued that his Offense was even average. Hell, I stopped defending him after Game 2 and only bring him because I know YOU specifically don't like him and think he's the worst coach to walk this earth LOL.

Spo was apart of the original point that got fuzzied by throwing in all kinds of other irrelevant things in the process by other responses.

My argument was whether Lebron can play 48 for FOUR more games. I'm not worried about the future just like I'm sure Lebron isn't either. He's worried about winning these 4 games and getting his ring, not about if he'll be able to play in 2019-2020. That's irrelevant to ME at this point, especially if I(me)were the Coach.

Of course he can play 48 for 4 more games. I never said that either... I said long term its bad for him health wise..nothing else.

Trust I know you don't like the dude, you've made that clear enough plenty of times already.

It was never about liking Spo or not liking him though.

I think Lebron can play a full 48 minutes in these next 4 games WHILE getting support from Bosh and Wade(notice I never said play out of this world, which I said earlier there is/was a difference) to win a championship RIGHT NOW and you don't and it is what it is. Luckily for everyone, we'll find out starting tomorrow.

Exactly, Spo is thinking short term anyway because he doesn't care if Bron has to have a superman game and the rest of the team dont even get into double figures... you know as well as I do that again long term that strategy will DOOM them, right?

..but again, since the original point got butchered with throwing in all kinds of other stuff, this conversation turned into something I wasn't talking about in the first place.

[Sam Marlowe]

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I think Lebron can play a full 48 minutes in these next 4 games WHILE getting support from Bosh and Wade(notice I never said play out of this world, which I said earlier there is/was a difference) to win a championship RIGHT NOW and you don't and it is what it is. Luckily for everyone, we'll find out starting tomorrow.

The reality here is that the Heat are probably going to need LBJ to do just that in at least 2 games in this series. In addition to being able to keeping KD from getting off the same way. OKC is going to be able to neutralize or completely take away either Bosh or Wade if the previous games the Heat have played this playoffs are any indication. The extreme inconsistency with the role players doesn't help either. Spo is going to have to ask LBJ to do everything he's capable of doing for entire games in this series, he won't have the luxury of being able to "find rest" on the court.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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All I know is MY(not anybody else's)point was that Lebron can play a full 48 minutes for 4 games, be fine and win a championship and that I'M not thinking about long term for 2 reasons:

1. Not thinking about that right now nor do I care about that and I'm sure Lebron isn't either.
2. Long term ALWAYS changes. It's never set in stone.

Anything else that gets tossed in is irrelevant to MY point.

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All I know is MY(not anybody else's)point was that Lebron can play a full 48 minutes for 4 games, be fine and win a championship and that I'M not thinking about long term for 2 reasons:

1. Not thinking about that right now nor do I care about that and I'm sure Lebron isn't either.
2. Long term ALWAYS changes. It's never set in stone.

Anything else that gets tossed in is irrelevant to MY point.

Then im not sure what we're discussing here because you and I arent even having the same talk

I was talking long term originally so agian, we arent even having the same convo

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Brooks : They just came off of a 7 game series so they might be a little tired... get on the break as often as possible and run because they'll eventually wear down.


Spo: LeBron I need you to play the entire game (as jame jones sits there with his arms open with a what about me look on his face)

If you were talking about long term in THIS post(which was the only reason I responded in the first place)then that's my bad. But I was under the impression from reading THIS post that you were not talking about the long term and that you were talking about right now.

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If you were talking about long term in THIS post(which was the only reason I responded in the first place)then that's my bad. But I was under the impression from reading THIS post that you were not talking about the long term and that you were talking about right now.

Nah but that post was just a joke though..nothing serious

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Then that's my bad for missing that.

Now, as for this series...

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19331628/let-westbrook-be-westbrook

Yes, yes, yes. Glad to see somebody else get it about this kid. Let Westbrook be Westbrook because he helps give your team the best chance to win.

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WB's going to do what he does regardless..but I just hope he doesnt blank out at times and go bad Russ

It may not but I'd love to see a 7 game series

[The 24th Letter]

I think ill use your line and call that a "pity article" Pack

because we all know what Westbrook brings, I think what most want to see is him eliminate the bone headed plays....not turnovers that happen during the course of the game....but the blatant disregard for the right play, in favor of avenging a score on the other end etc.