NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

[OSUFan_88]

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How is this trade fair?

#BasketballReasons?

Good point, Houston shouldn't have been allowed to throw away such valuable pieces for an above average talent.

[Fiasco West]

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The one knock on Martin's scoring here is that he tends to disappear in clutch moments.

In that he'd score a good chunk of his points in the first 3 qtrs and then kinda trail off as the game goes on. It's not going to matter there though, Houston was relying on him to score late in games and obviously OKC wont.

I don't really think Houston got robbed or anything or it's going to take some time to determine whether or not they did. Lamb could be anything at this point including a bench depth player. He certainly didn't impress much during preseason as much as other rookies did here and most were already ready to send him to the NBDL. I still think he's going to be a good player though but I'm not worried that we gave up a all-star caliber player or anything.

I'm more worried about the picks honestly. Although Toronto has looked solid in preseason.

[OSUFan_88]

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Yes, this season. But how about the next few years? Are they just going to sit back and wait for Lamb and the draft picks to develop?

Considering that OKC still has their starting SG, and Martin could easily be re-signed to a reasonable contract, Lamb has plenty of time while Martin and Thabo continue to be one of the best SG combos in the NBA.

[facade63]

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I take it not many of you have watched Kevin Martin play over the last few years?

absolutely awful OKC will be trading him

[Basketball GURU]

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OKC got big balls, this is a good trade for both teams though.

[phenom1990]

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I would be shocked if they dealt Martin. Their team will not win a title without Martin producing big numbers or at least playing big minutes.

I can't think of a guy off the top of my head they could trade him for. But if Lamb plays good, I would think they would look at it because they don't have the cap room to sign anybody unless they amnesty Perkins.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I can't think of a guy off the top of my head they could trade him for. But if Lamb plays good, I would think they would look at it because they don't have the cap room to sign anybody unless they amnesty Perkins.

I guess to me:

1. They won't win the title if they have to tinker with their roster again at the deadline. That would be way too much chemistry issues to deal with

2. I don't think Lamb is going to play to the level where Martin can be expendable. He's only a rookie. They can't depend on a rookie to provide championship level performances

[ex carrabba fan]

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I take it not many of you have watched Kevin Martin play over the last few years?

absolutely awful OKC will be trading him

You have a point, however he will be the 3rd option now, and he won't have to face any double teams at all. He won't have to chuck shots anymore, maybe that'll help him bring his field goal percentages up. He can still get to the line and can still shoot from beyond the line. OKC could use that.

[phenom1990]

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I guess to me:

1. They won't win the title if they have to tinker with their roster again at the deadline. That would be way too much chemistry issues to deal with

2. I don't think Lamb is going to play to the level where Martin can be expendable. He's only a rookie. They can't depend on a rookie to provide championship level performances

I agree with both your points. I'm just thinking of all possible scenarios for why OKC made the trade. I have no idea what to expect from Lamb and I don't know what to expect from Kevin Martin.

I also don't have a problem with Harden getting his money now. He can go chase a ring if Houston isn't good when he is 28 or 29, assuming he is healthy.

[DutchMastah7]

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Crazy deal. OKC should be about the same IMO though. Harden puts up about the same sort of numbers Martin does. Harden is just a better defender and creates offense a little better. Kevin Martin has always been underrated. Dude can make buckets.

Someone else said earlier, Thabo is there to play D for them. Harden wasn't out there to lock people down. He was there make it happen on offense. Houston got practically nothing besides Harden. OKC gets Martin (who's contract ends after the season), and one of the top prospects in this last draft in Lamb. Plus picks.

I think K-Mart would fit pretty well. It'll take some time to gel with KD and Russ, but they'll get the hang of it.

Houston gets a legit guy as well. I see it as a win-win.

[jfsolo]

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Harden wants over 4 years though, correct? I think that was one of the reasons he rejected OKC's deal as well.

I'm pretty sure 4 years is the max available to RFA's, so it seems like this was just about him wanting max dollars.

I have great respect for GM's/organizations that are decisive about player personnel decisions. Sometimes it works out for them, sometimes it doesn't, but they don't get paralyzed and afraid to make a firm choice thus letting players hold them hostage. One way or another they bite the bullet quickly and move forward.

Westbrook is now going to be under unbelievable pressure to exorcise "Bad Russ", now that Harden, their best facilitator/decision maker on offense, is gone.

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Honestly man this trade is weird

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[tehova]

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I'm pretty sure 4 years is the max available to RFA's, so it seems like this was just about him wanting max dollars.

I have great respect for GM's/organizations that are decisive about player personnel decisions. Sometimes it works out for them, sometimes it doesn't, but they don't get paralyzed and afraid to make a firm choice thus letting players hold them hostage. One way or another they bite the bullet quickly and move forward.

Westbrook is now going to be under unbelievable pressure to exorcise "Bad Russ", now that Harden, their best facilitator/decision maker on offense, is gone.

Maynor Back

[ex carrabba fan]

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I'm sorry, but Harden IMO is a clown the more I hear about this story. Six million dollars was the difference between playing in the best basketball city in the league? Smh

The final offer by the Oklahoma City Thunder to James Harden was a four-year, $54 million contract.

Harden could sign a max offer of $60 million over four seasons.

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I'm sorry, but Harden IMO is a clown the more I hear about this story. Six million dollars was the difference between playing in the best basketball city in the league? Smh

Hope the 6 million dollar man is ready to pay the price for this

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