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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #5131
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

    Interesting parts from that interview:

    Q: So you had heard some of the players grumbling about the 3-4 hour practices?
    A: Yeah, I heard that and I saw it. Which is one of the reasons I went to watch practice. And I didn’t see anything that was different from when I played the game of basketball. I think the perception is a little bit different, maybe the expectation is a little bit different and this is where we’ve got to hold firm. This is what championship teams do. If we did it in Chicago and we became a championship team, why wouldn’t we want to do that here? If you turn your nose up to it, then maybe you need to look in the mirror and see that you’re a part of the problem….
    The next day, it seemed like everybody was on board. So I think they got it. I wanted them to hear it coming from management…. We’re going to do everything we can to upgrade and bring stability.


    Q: How do the current Bobcat players react to you?
    A: I don’t have direct dialogue with them as much as I used to. I created a little bit more of a distance. I came from a different era. I look at things totally different than the way they do. I send subtle messages, I try to. But If I sit here and debate with them, I’m bringing myself down to their level in a sense. And I don’t want to get there…. Where I am is where they want to get to.


    Q: Do they act intimidated by you?
    A: Some of them do, some of them don’t. Henderson doesn’t get intimidated. But that’s a Dukie for you. He doesn’t get intimidated but he listens. There are certain guys you can go right at and say, ‘I think you’ve been playing [badly]. I think you need to focus on being more consistent.’ He likes that criticism. But then the other players, you need to – not walk on eggs, but do it in a way you don’t break their morale or you don’t tear them down.
    And I tend to stay away from those guys because my personality is a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more determined in asking for a lot. And I go to the guys I feel can receive that and I stay away from the guys who I feel get intimidated.


    Q: Do you still believe a major free agent would come to the Bobcats?
    A: “If the (collective bargaining agreement) operates the way it’s supposed to, there will be very few teams with the right cap space (to pursue major free agents). Hopefully we can start picking them off that way, by maintaining our flexibility. Maybe we can provide them with the financial reward most players are starting to look for. Hoping the CBA will work that way for small-market teams – some parity.’’
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #5132
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      Interesting parts from that interview:
      Not surprised to hear Dunlap running them in 3 hour practices and players getting pissed already.

      When he took over for Steve Lavin at St. John's...2 players quit the team.

      But he's a tactician and he wants to teach them schemes and get things down fundamentally sound. He's a hard *** though.

      They're concerned about FAs signing there but they need guys with the right personality/mentality.

      Dunlap will be fired eventually.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #5133
        Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
        Not surprised to hear Dunlap running them in 3 hour practices and players getting pissed already.

        When he took over for Steve Lavin at St. John's...2 players quit the team.

        But he's a tactician and he wants to teach them schemes and get things down fundamentally sound. He's a hard *** though.

        They're concerned about FAs signing there but they need guys with the right personality/mentality.

        Dunlap will be fired eventually.
        You think he will be fired because players will stop playing for him or because he's the guy that will teach discipline and improve the team but the Cats (seriously, they should just change their name to Charlotte Cats if its a choice between the name they have now and the one on their jerseys) will hire someone else to reach the next level?


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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #5134
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

          Originally posted by CMH
          You think he will be fired because players will stop playing for him or because he's the guy that will teach discipline and improve the team but the Cats (seriously, they should just change their name to Charlotte Cats if its a choice between the name they have now and the one on their jerseys) will hire someone else to reach the next level?


          Sent from my mobile device.
          Both. Just my opinion though.

          If you look at the roster..it's a bunch of young players. And they're complaining already. Enough to the point that MJ had to show up at the practice.

          I think the team will improve and get better. Maybe 30 wins a few years from now under Dunlap.

          But to be able to land a marquee free agent (they'll have the money to do so) and keep him is when they'll bring in a new coach to take that next step. No big time free agent is going to want to put up with him.

          Imagine James Harden signed there for $80M and a coach with no experience is going to have him doing the same drill over and over until he gets it right.

          He'd either choke him or walk out.

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #5135
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
            Not surprised to hear Dunlap running them in 3 hour practices and players getting pissed already.

            When he took over for Steve Lavin at St. John's...2 players quit the team.

            But he's a tactician and he wants to teach them schemes and get things down fundamentally sound. He's a hard *** though.

            They're concerned about FAs signing there but they need guys with the right personality/mentality.

            Dunlap will be fired eventually.
            This is the key right here. Every young/new coach needs to first, have and/or acquire top talent of course, but those star players must buy in wholeheartedly to the coach's philosophy. As a disciplinarian, the toughest thing is to follow a player's coach so Dunlap having problems at St. John's isn't surprising at all.

            Before I think Mike was just "playing" owner but now he seems to finally be serious. He needs to give Dunlap several years, run all the empty-headed, me first, crappy work ethic players out of town, completely remaking the culture of the team and organization. There are a lot of players in the Association and coming out of college who enjoy and thrive in a hard *** environment. They just have to identify, target and sign/draft those players. Not an easy task to be sure, but as least they seem to have a real plan now.
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            • DukeC
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 5751

              #5136
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

              Call it a gut feeling..but I don't think it was MKG, Kemba, or Henderson involved in any of the complaining. Those dudes work hard in the off-season.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #5137
                Isn't that a common issue with this generation. ..don't wanna earn it but give it to me quick

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                • Caveman24
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1352

                  #5138
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                  Originally posted by DukeC
                  Call it a gut feeling..but I don't think it was MKG, Kemba, or Henderson involved in any of the complaining. Those dudes work hard in the off-season.
                  I'll take Tyrus Thomas for 10
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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #5139
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                    Originally posted by z4ckdabeast
                    Not as common as condescending holier-than-thou comments from older generations.


                    I dont quite understand what you mean

                    How does this relate to the story?

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #5140
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                      Originally posted by z4ckdabeast
                      I offered a broad generalization in response to your broad generalization. It sure seemed like you weren't just talking about young players on the Charlotte Bobcats.
                      Well again, you werent even on topic first of all

                      ...and I dont need you being broad about anything just ask me straight up

                      I dont even want to get into the issues with alot of young people in this day and time

                      Obviously something pricked you at the core to come in here this late to even make a snarky comment when we're here talking about basketball players

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #5141
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                        Originally posted by z4ckdabeast
                        My, what a turnaround. It's like watching the Carmelo Anthony bitch-slap / backpedal routine.
                        I know exactly what I said... I post what I do for a reason

                        so see, there is no turnaround and please understand me once

                        I am not trying to throw this thread off course which is what you're doing

                        You have an issue with me or something I said thats not apart of this topic, we can take it to PM or stay on topic, but if you continue this here then remember right now that I've warned you to stop taking the thread off topic

                        You just came in here to argue and im not even about to do this here..

                        PM or move on

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                        • SteelersFreak
                          All Star
                          • May 2004
                          • 9582

                          #5142
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                          Originally posted by DukeC
                          Call it a gut feeling..but I don't think it was MKG, Kemba, or Henderson involved in any of the complaining. Those dudes work hard in the off-season.
                          Pretty easy to figure out who it was...Tyrus Thomas, Diop, Haywood, are the likely culprits. Maybe Ben Gordon. I can't see much of the rest of that roster complaining too much.
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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #5143
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                            Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                            Pretty easy to figure out who it was...Tyrus Thomas, Diop, Haywood, are the likely culprits. Maybe Ben Gordon. I can't see much of the rest of that roster complaining too much.
                            I have to agree in the least bit Tyrus seems like one of the main culprits

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                            • SteelersFreak
                              All Star
                              • May 2004
                              • 9582

                              #5144
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                              Originally posted by 23
                              I have to agree in the least bit Tyrus seems like one of the main culprits
                              Whatever the problems were, they seem to have been ironed out because he gets pretty solid playing time for them.
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                              MLB: Texas Rangers
                              NHL: Dallas Stars
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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #5145
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                                Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                                Whatever the problems were, they seem to have been ironed out because he gets pretty solid playing time for them.
                                Being a big is a premium now in the NBA, but yeah that one visit probably did the trick

                                Looks like MJ backing off a bit as well... he seemed to have learned a lesson as well

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