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  • mdmgrand
    Rookie
    • Sep 2009
    • 120

    #1876
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

    Well Orlando will have a good shot in the lottery next year to land a top three pick... too bad all the other picks from this trade will be in the 20's. They needed to find a way to get both Lopez and Brooks, but I guess they'll settle for Lopez, garbage, and a ton of late first rounders.

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #1877
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

      I actually think the Clips were legit, regardless of other circumstances.

      They took out a ready and able Memphis team... without their starting shooting guard.

      IMO they were the best team in LA before Billups went out, but he and CP3 were just starting to figure it out when he went down

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      • FloydNDLAL
        Banned
        • Jun 2012
        • 281

        #1878
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

        Dwight Howard Drama
        Jason Lloyd
        Just spoke to a league source with intimate knowledge of these trade talks. Ignore the noise, folks. Lot of misinformation out there. Nothing is close to getting done, at least from #Cavs perspective.http://sulia.com/channel/cleveland-c...source=twitter

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        • IlliniM1ke
          Heroes Never Die
          • Feb 2003
          • 8082

          #1879
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          I agree, it's just funny how he referred to himself as greatness. Could have worded that a bit better... hahaha. No dambs were given at all
          Oh wow I didn't even process that part the first time I read over it lol.

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          Christ, as much as I try not to care about it, reading that they all wanted to team up irks me.
          Yeah same here, hate what the NBA has become with guys planning out where they want to sign years before they even hit the market.

          Originally posted by SteelersFreak
          Seriously. **** that. The only time they should be teaming up is the All-Star game and the Olympics.
          Agreed, the days of guys wanting to be the man and put a team on their back and lead them to a title are gone, now its all about which group of friends can form the best super team, sickening.
          Favorite Teams:
          NCAA- University of Illinois Fighting Illini
          NFL- Cleveland Browns
          MLB- St. Louis Cardinals
          NBA- Boston Celtics
          NHL- Chicago Blackhawks

          Formerly CardsFan27

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #1880
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

            It seems like the future will be 5 or 6 super teams competing for the title, collectively paying 100's of millions of dollars in luxury tax penalties, with the rest of the owners feigning indignation, while they collect that extra money, and make a nice profit from their team.
            Jordan Mychal Lemos
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            Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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            • IlliniM1ke
              Heroes Never Die
              • Feb 2003
              • 8082

              #1881
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              It seems like the future will be 5 or 6 super teams competing for the title, collectively paying 100's of millions of dollars in luxury tax penalties, with the rest of the owners feigning indignation, while they collect that extra money, and make a nice profit from their team.
              Honestly that future isn't all that far off from where we are now, it will get worse as you said as I'm sure ultimately there will be a few teams who don't care about the luxury tax and will be willing to really pay it but going into the season you pretty much know its going to be a group of about 6 teams with any kind of chance of winning it.

              Last year it was the Lakers, Thunder, Spurs, Heat, Celtics, Bulls.

              Next year it will be the Lakers, Thunder, Spurs, Heat, Celtics, and maybe you can put the Clippers in the conversation, and the Nets if they land Dwight.

              You're royally screwed in terms of winning a title in the NBA if you don't have a legit superstar, and since they all want to play on teams with each other now that means there are going to be very few legit contenders in the coming years since you're going to find all those players on a handful of teams.
              Favorite Teams:
              NCAA- University of Illinois Fighting Illini
              NFL- Cleveland Browns
              MLB- St. Louis Cardinals
              NBA- Boston Celtics
              NHL- Chicago Blackhawks

              Formerly CardsFan27

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              • OSUFan_88
                Outback Jesus
                • Jul 2004
                • 25642

                #1882
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                Because you weren't royally screwed if you didn't have a superstar before...?

                Outside of the 2004 Pistons, and some would argue, unsuccessfully, the Bad Boys Pistons, which team in the last 30 years has won a title without a superstar?

                Now 2 per team, that's a new idea, but I think it's because we use the term superstar way too loosely.
                Too Old To Game Club

                Urban Meyer is lol.

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                • phenom1990
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4789

                  #1883
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                  Magic played with at least 2 HOF guys. Bird had at least 2 other starters in the HOF and Dennis Johnson was a Finals MVP. There was teams with this level of talent in the league before. An all star point guard and an all star center playing together doesn't destroy the your team vs my team thing. Deron Williams doesn't guard Dwight and vice versa.

                  Deron Williams played with Boozer in Utah and consistently got eliminated by the Kobe/Gasol Lakers. The only thing that bothers me is if they decided a long time ago to play together when they were on different teams. Joe Johnson on the Nets is more to the caliber of Glen Rice or Eddie Jones on the Kobe/ Shaq Lakers. I know Eddie was better than Kobe before 2000.
                  "Ma'am I don't make the rules up. I just think them up and write em down". - Cartman

                  2013 and 2015 OS NFL Pick'em Champ...somehow I won 2 in 3 years.

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                  • IlliniM1ke
                    Heroes Never Die
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 8082

                    #1884
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                    Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                    Because you weren't royally screwed if you didn't have a superstar before...?

                    Outside of the 2004 Pistons, and some would argue, unsuccessfully, the Bad Boys Pistons, which team in the last 30 years has won a title without a superstar?

                    Now 2 per team, that's a new idea, but I think it's because we use the term superstar way too loosely.
                    You were still royally screwed but when they weren't building super teams more teams had a chance, I would figure a Cavs fan would grasp that point better than most.

                    I like the NBA but its harder and harder to stay interested when there are less and less relevant teams, yeah watching the marquee teams play is great but I couldn't care less about most games during the season or even the early portion of the playoffs.
                    Favorite Teams:
                    NCAA- University of Illinois Fighting Illini
                    NFL- Cleveland Browns
                    MLB- St. Louis Cardinals
                    NBA- Boston Celtics
                    NHL- Chicago Blackhawks

                    Formerly CardsFan27

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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #1885
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                      Originally posted by phenom1990
                      Magic played with at least 2 HOF guys. Bird had at least 2 other starters in the HOF and Dennis Johnson was a Finals MVP. There was teams with this level of talent in the league before. An all star point guard and an all star center playing together doesn't destroy the your team vs my team thing. Deron Williams doesn't guard Dwight and vice versa.

                      Deron Williams played with Boozer in Utah and consistently got eliminated by the Kobe/Gasol Lakers. The only thing that bothers me is if they decided a long time ago to play together when they were on different teams. Joe Johnson on the Nets is more to the caliber of Glen Rice or Eddie Jones on the Kobe/ Shaq Lakers. I know Eddie was better than Kobe before 2000.
                      That's exactly what they are doing.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • OSUFan_88
                        Outback Jesus
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 25642

                        #1886
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                        Originally posted by CardsFan27
                        You were still royally screwed but when they weren't building super teams more teams had a chance,
                        How many different champions have we had in the past 5 years?

                        Also, something like 7 teams in 30 years have won a title. If you want more of a perceived chance, have at it. I do have a problem with players meeting and arranging themselves at joining teams, but I have absolutely NO problems with the idea behind a super team, or that the NBA was once this balanced league with amazing parity.
                        Too Old To Game Club

                        Urban Meyer is lol.

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                        • Chrisksaint
                          $$$
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19127

                          #1887
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                          I don't hate on the super teams as long as they don't do it in the cocky way that the Heat did before the season, have to have a superstar to win a title. Why I hope AD or EG pan out into a superstar as I don't want to be one of those teams that is just well balanced but no star.
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                          • IlliniM1ke
                            Heroes Never Die
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 8082

                            #1888
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                            Originally posted by phenom1990
                            Magic played with at least 2 HOF guys. Bird had at least 2 other starters in the HOF and Dennis Johnson was a Finals MVP. There was teams with this level of talent in the league before. An all star point guard and an all star center playing together doesn't destroy the your team vs my team thing. Deron Williams doesn't guard Dwight and vice versa.

                            Deron Williams played with Boozer in Utah and consistently got eliminated by the Kobe/Gasol Lakers. The only thing that bothers me is if they decided a long time ago to play together when they were on different teams. Joe Johnson on the Nets is more to the caliber of Glen Rice or Eddie Jones on the Kobe/ Shaq Lakers. I know Eddie was better than Kobe before 2000.
                            All good points, but those players didn't get together during the Olympics and say hey 3 years from now when we all hit FA we should all sign in Miami to give us an easy shot at a ring. They built those teams more through trades and the draft.

                            The idea of plotting out who you're going to play with years before you even hit FA to form a super team is just off putting.
                            Favorite Teams:
                            NCAA- University of Illinois Fighting Illini
                            NFL- Cleveland Browns
                            MLB- St. Louis Cardinals
                            NBA- Boston Celtics
                            NHL- Chicago Blackhawks

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                            • FloydNDLAL
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 281

                              #1889
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                              Who ever said that Bynum didn't want to sign an extension with the magic.


                              2:20 Enough Said.

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                              • jmood88
                                Sean Payton: Retribution
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 34639

                                #1890
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                                Originally posted by jfsolo
                                It seems like the future will be 5 or 6 super teams competing for the title, collectively paying 100's of millions of dollars in luxury tax penalties, with the rest of the owners feigning indignation, while they collect that extra money, and make a nice profit from their team.
                                So it'll be about the same as it has been for awhile except with luxury tax penalties.
                                Originally posted by Blzer
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                                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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