Top 5 at each position

[J_Posse]

These threads pop up every summer, LOL.

Here is my lists:

PG
1. Chris Paul
2. Rajon Rondo
3. Tony Parker
4. Deron Williams
5. Steve Nash

SG
1. Dewyane Wade
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Joe Johnson
4. James Harden
5 Monta Ellis

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Loul Deng
5. Paul Pierce

PF
1. Kevin Love
2. Blake Griffin
3. Dirk Nowtizki
4. LaMarcus Aldridge
5. Pau Gasol

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Andrew Bynum
3. DeMarcus Cousins
4. Tim Duncan
5. Al Jefferson

Note: Excluded or didn't consider Rose, Ginobili, Gordon, Horford or Lopez do to injuries. They all would get consideration if they we're healthier last season.

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[wwharton]

Re: Top 5 at each position

So He is 150 in blocking,steals,and rebounds?
And why is cousins listed as a PF.

Why don't you just admit that you didn't know much about the guy and move on? Now you know... this clearly doesn't look like a battle you're going to win.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Top 5 at each position

So He is 150 in blocking,steals,and rebounds?
And why is cousins listed as a PF.

No, I mean every other scoring category. He's a good rebounder, an alright defender, and a below-average offensive player.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Top 5 at each position

No offense against Cousins but if he's a Top 5 Center right now, doesn't that say more about the quality of the position than it does his actual game?

[RedSceptile]

Re: Top 5 at each position

No offense against Cousins but if he's a Top 5 Center right now, doesn't that say more about the quality of the position than it does his actual game?

The fact that Kendrick Perkins, Andris Biedrins, DeAndre Jordan and Brendan Haywood all start should be the only answer you need.

[chance]

Re: Top 5 at each position

No offense against Cousins but if he's a Top 5 Center right now, doesn't that say more about the quality of the position than it does his actual game?

Not really he has the talent

[DukeC]

Re: Top 5 at each position

No offense against Cousins but if he's a Top 5 Center right now, doesn't that say more about the quality of the position than it does his actual game?

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Not really. No more than saying James Harden is a Top 5 SG and Tony Parker a Top 5 PG IMO. SG is the second weakest position besides Center.

[Muzyk23]

Re: Top 5 at each position

PG: Lebron

SG: LeBron

SF: LeBron

PF: LeBron

C: LeBron

I'm dead serious

[702]

Once you get past the elite level players it becomes extremely hard to rank everyone. For example this Cousins being top 5 debate. You absolutely can't name 5 centers better than him, but its equally debatable that you can't claim him definitively better than any of Gasol, Hibbert, Gortat, Monroe, Noah, Bogut (depending on health), and Horford/Garnett (depending on how you list them). So many factors are involved such as their situation, what skills you value/need, how much you value consistency versus "peak" ability, that its really splitting hairs. After Howard and Bynum, it's pointless.

That's why I wouldn't go past this for my rankings.

PG
1. Paul
2. Rose
3. Williams/Rondo/Westbrook.

SG
1. Kobe
2. Wade

SF
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Melo

PF
1. Love/Aldridge/Gasol

C
1. Howard
2. Bynum

After the listed players I don't see definitive differences between players that would supercede fit. No matter what team I have I'm taking Bynum over anyone not named Howard, but past that it really just depends on other factors.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Top 5 at each position

PG: Lebron

SG: LeBron

SF: LeBron

PF: LeBron

C: LeBron

I'm dead serious

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[Reyes19]

PG
1.Rose
2.Paul
3.Rondo
4.Williams
5.Parker

SG
1.Wade
2.Bryant
3.Westbrook(His natural position)
4.Monta Ellis
5.Eric Gordon

SF
1.Lebron
2.KD
3.Melo
4***dy Gay
5.Iguodola

PF
1.Love
2.Griffin
3.Aldridge
4.Dirk
5. Garnett

C
1.Dwight
2.Bynum
3.Al Horford
4.Cousins
5.Monroe

[Rule of Two]

Re: Top 5 at each position

PG - 1. Chris Paul 2. Rajon Rondo 3. Russell Westbrook 4. Deron Williams 5. Derrick Rose

SG - 1. Dwyane Wade 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Joe Johnson 4. Monta Ellis 5. James Harden/Manu Ginobili

SF - 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. Carmelo Anthony 4. Paul Pierce 5. Luol Deng/Andre Igoudala/Rudy Gay

PF - 1. Kevin Love 2. Blake Griffin 3. David Lee 4. Josh Smith 5. LaMarcus Aldridge/Dirk Nowitzki/Pau Gasol/Chris Bosh

C - 1. Dwight Howard 2. Andrew Bynum 3. Al Jefferson 4. DeMarcus Cousins 5. Marc Gasol/Greg Monroe/Kevin Garnett

[wwharton]

Re: Top 5 at each position

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Not really. No more than saying James Harden is a Top 5 SG and Tony Parker a Top 5 PG IMO. SG is the second weakest position besides Center.

Parker was a legit MVP candidate this year. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with him being considered top 5 at his position. He's got heavy comp so I can see him slipping out of the top 5 too but I wouldn't say that's the same situation. Having comp bc there are so many good players is different than having comp bc there aren't that many good players at your position.

Harden's just being overranked. It's interesting considering players usually get overhyped when they make a big playoff run but Harden was a no show in the finals so you'd think he'd be under rated right about now. The SG position is weak but Harden isn't top 5 either. Maybe people aren't properly considering the combo guards out there... which is pretty much what Harden is also.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Top 5 at each position

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Not really. No more than saying James Harden is a Top 5 SG and Tony Parker a Top 5 PG IMO. SG is the second weakest position besides Center.

But the PG Position is probably the deepest position in the league in terms of quality/comp so if Parker is a Top 5 PG, then that says more about his game than the actual position.

Parker was a legit MVP candidate this year. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with him being considered top 5 at his position. He's got heavy comp so I can see him slipping out of the top 5 too but I wouldn't say that's the same situation. Having comp bc there are so many good players is different than having comp bc there aren't that many good players at your position.

Agreed and that's basically my point.

[DukeC]

Re: Top 5 at each position

Parker was a legit MVP candidate this year. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with him being considered top 5 at his position. He's got heavy comp so I can see him slipping out of the top 5 too but I wouldn't say that's the same situation. Having comp bc there are so many good players is different than having comp bc there aren't that many good players at your position.

Harden's just being overranked. It's interesting considering players usually get overhyped when they make a big playoff run but Harden was a no show in the finals so you'd think he'd be under rated right about now. The SG position is weak but Harden isn't top 5 either. Maybe people aren't properly considering the combo guards out there... which is pretty much what Harden is also.

Hrm? Where in that did I insult Parker? I have nothing wrong with guys who put Tony Parker in their Top 5, because I also feel at his peak he's a Top 5 PG. Once his floater gets going he's next to impossible to stop given how quick he is and how easily he's able to get into the lane. However, my list goes Paul, Deron, Rose, Nash, Westbrook, simply because I feel like Westbrook can do what Parker does at a higher level.

As for Harden? I feel like if Ginobli is able to crack the Top 5 at SG then Harden should be getting equal consideration also. IMO, it's Kobe, Wade, Ellis, Joe Johnson, then either Ginobli, or Harden take that final spot.

Combo guards are an entirely different story I feel. Do we then just categorize them as simply "Guards" and put them in both lists?

As for the bad comp thing, I agree there aren't a lot of Centers you can just dump the ball to in the post and let them work. A lot of them are a bunch of stiffs. Cousins is definitely NOT one of those Centers though. Simply by way of his offense (Which is light years ahead of Dwight's, Gortat's, Marc's, and Bynum to an extent) he cracks the Top 5. And he's rebounding at a nice clip by averaging 11 a game. He's certainly talented enough to BE a Top 5 Center even with competition though, which is what I was arguing. Stats and footage of his game tend to back my opinion up favorably.