Everybody talking bout Mcgrady's problem (read: teammates)

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:35 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in teh future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

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no one is staying tract is struggling...the common theme is that the magic are horrible...

and their only five games out...LMAO

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:37 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

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Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:37 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

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Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:37 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

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Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:44 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

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Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

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the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:44 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:44 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:52 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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jordan0386 said:
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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

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So it's all his fault huh? What should he do then, score 50 or score 20 and pass the ball?

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:52 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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jordan0386 said:
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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

<hr /></blockquote>

So it's all his fault huh? What should he do then, score 50 or score 20 and pass the ball?

23 · 11-28-2003, 01:52 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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jordan0386 said:
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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

<hr /></blockquote>

So it's all his fault huh? What should he do then, score 50 or score 20 and pass the ball?

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 11-28-2003, 01:54 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

Funny thing my cousin told me today during Thanksgiving Party. He said that great players should never be on bad teams. If you are a great player, than you must be on a good team, and your team must be winning. It made sense to some extent, but than I immediatly asked him about Tmac and Pierce. He said that they should find some way, any way, to get quality players on the court through demanding it, make their original teammates better, or get the hell out. Great players should be able to take massive pay cuts so they can win. He says that you can make as much money as Bill freaking Gates, but if your team is stinking it up, than you really aren't that good. Since we are talking about Tmac here, I don't see him taking a paycut any time soon, instead I see him making more money, so getting another all-star teammate is out of the question (especially with Hill out there doing nothing). IT's almost impossible to get these players on the Magic to do better. Tmac still has two years (i think) on his contract, and as dumb as Lay-- I mean Gabriel is, I don't think Tmac will be traded. How do you think Tmac could get on a winning team. And what do you think about my cousin's statements. I think they are actually true when you think about it. You're never gonna hear about a good basketball player who leads a team to a crappy record. I mean how many of you think people are gonna remember Shareef Abdur-Rahim?

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 11-28-2003, 01:54 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

Funny thing my cousin told me today during Thanksgiving Party. He said that great players should never be on bad teams. If you are a great player, than you must be on a good team, and your team must be winning. It made sense to some extent, but than I immediatly asked him about Tmac and Pierce. He said that they should find some way, any way, to get quality players on the court through demanding it, make their original teammates better, or get the hell out. Great players should be able to take massive pay cuts so they can win. He says that you can make as much money as Bill freaking Gates, but if your team is stinking it up, than you really aren't that good. Since we are talking about Tmac here, I don't see him taking a paycut any time soon, instead I see him making more money, so getting another all-star teammate is out of the question (especially with Hill out there doing nothing). IT's almost impossible to get these players on the Magic to do better. Tmac still has two years (i think) on his contract, and as dumb as Lay-- I mean Gabriel is, I don't think Tmac will be traded. How do you think Tmac could get on a winning team. And what do you think about my cousin's statements. I think they are actually true when you think about it. You're never gonna hear about a good basketball player who leads a team to a crappy record. I mean how many of you think people are gonna remember Shareef Abdur-Rahim?

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 11-28-2003, 01:54 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

Funny thing my cousin told me today during Thanksgiving Party. He said that great players should never be on bad teams. If you are a great player, than you must be on a good team, and your team must be winning. It made sense to some extent, but than I immediatly asked him about Tmac and Pierce. He said that they should find some way, any way, to get quality players on the court through demanding it, make their original teammates better, or get the hell out. Great players should be able to take massive pay cuts so they can win. He says that you can make as much money as Bill freaking Gates, but if your team is stinking it up, than you really aren't that good. Since we are talking about Tmac here, I don't see him taking a paycut any time soon, instead I see him making more money, so getting another all-star teammate is out of the question (especially with Hill out there doing nothing). IT's almost impossible to get these players on the Magic to do better. Tmac still has two years (i think) on his contract, and as dumb as Lay-- I mean Gabriel is, I don't think Tmac will be traded. How do you think Tmac could get on a winning team. And what do you think about my cousin's statements. I think they are actually true when you think about it. You're never gonna hear about a good basketball player who leads a team to a crappy record. I mean how many of you think people are gonna remember Shareef Abdur-Rahim?

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:56 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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KDRE said:
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jordan0386 said:
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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

<hr /></blockquote>

So it's all his fault huh? What should he do then, score 50 or score 20 and pass the ball?

<hr /></blockquote>

well...you know society has a..."what have you done for me lately" mentality...so...if you did it by yourself the past two seasons...whats going on now...

its like what doc rivers said...no one complained when they overacheived for three straight seasons...but the rants come full force when their underacheiving...go figure

**jordan0386** · 11-28-2003, 01:56 AM

Re: Everybody talking bout Mcgrady\'s problem (read: teammates)

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KDRE said:
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jordan0386 said:
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KDRE said:
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schindeler said:
Yeah I think all this criticism will help T-mac in the future. How many great players have gone through a tough time but learned from that experience and got stronger. Vince Carter is a prime example this year. Its still pretty scary how people say T-mac is really "struggling" but yet he is still averaging 25 points.

<hr /></blockquote>

Comes with the territory I guess. As I said before, after being arguably the L. best player last year, now people want to question his ability. Go figure.

<hr /></blockquote>

the reason i think its like this is due to him coming off a career year taking his team to the playoffs...another year without g.hill...blah blah blah...

but to have your squad start the year with more than 8 straight losses...

people started to raise a few ?????????????????????????

<hr /></blockquote>

So it's all his fault huh? What should he do then, score 50 or score 20 and pass the ball?

<hr /></blockquote>

well...you know society has a..."what have you done for me lately" mentality...so...if you did it by yourself the past two seasons...whats going on now...

its like what doc rivers said...no one complained when they overacheived for three straight seasons...but the rants come full force when their underacheiving...go figure

Everybody talking bout Mcgrady's problem (read: teammates)

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