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  • iLLosophy
    Plata o Plomo
    • Sep 2005
    • 3673

    #46
    Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

    Chris Paul. That was my answer before, that will be my answer next time.

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    • 24
      Forever A Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 2809

      #47
      Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

      Rondo and Paul are neck and neck in my opinion. CP3 is a little more versatile when it comes to the scoring aspect but Rondo can run the floor better.


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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
        Once in a Lifetime Memory
        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #48
        Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        If Rose deserves an MVP award I see no reason why Rondo can't be in the running for one.
        1. I'm of the opinion that Rose shouldn't have won MVP that season.
        2. That season for Rose blows any of Rondo's seasons out of the water.
        3. If Rondo continues to play the way he has, then sure, you can make a case (though it will be incredibly hard to beat out LeBron), but this season so far has easily been Rondo's best, and the Celtics aren't playing at a high enough level to put him in the discussion in my opinion.

        Obviously that 3rd point is subject to change though.
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          #49
          Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

          Originally posted by 24
          Rondo and Paul are neck and neck in my opinion. CP3 is a little more versatile when it comes to the scoring aspect but Rondo can run the floor better.
          I don't really think Rondo manages the game any better than CP3, but to each their own.
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          • Jukeman
            Showtime
            • Aug 2005
            • 10955

            #50
            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Come on now, he's never had an MVP type season.
            Thats debatable.

            Considering he received MVP votes last year finishing 1 point behind Duhwight and in front of guys like Westbrook who both had a pretty damn good season last year.



            -Juke

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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #51
              Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

              Originally posted by Jukeman
              Thats debatable.

              Considering he received MVP votes last year finishing 1 point behind Duhwight and in front of guys like Westbrook who both had a pretty damn good season last year.



              -Juke
              Ok, he got 2 out of 121 votes for 4th place and 6 out of 121 votes for 5th place and beat out a guy that was the 2nd banana on his team. That's not an "MVP type season".

              Edit: Basically, over 93% of the voters did not think Rondo was one of the 5 most valuable players in the league last year, in what was his best season of his career. So going back to the post that I quoted, Rondo has not had an MVP-type season to this point (though the pace that he is off too so far is an MVP type level in my opinion.
              Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 11-18-2012, 06:01 PM.
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              • Jukeman
                Showtime
                • Aug 2005
                • 10955

                #52
                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                Ok, he got 2 out of 121 votes for 4th place and 6 out of 121 votes for 5th place and beat out a guy that was the 2nd banana on his team. That's not an "MVP type season".

                Edit: Basically, over 93% of the voters did not think Rondo was one of the 5 most valuable players in the league last year, in what was his best season of his career. So going back to the post that I quoted, Rondo has not had an MVP-type season to this point (though the pace that he is off too so far is an MVP type level in my opinion.
                In same breathe, one could say TP who was 4th in MVP (with 1st place votes) season wasnt leaps ahead of guys like Westbrook, Howard and Rondo and was just as valuable to his team as the likes of Howard and Rondo.



                -Juke

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  1. I'm of the opinion that Rose shouldn't have won MVP that season.
                  2. That season for Rose blows any of Rondo's seasons out of the water.
                  3. If Rondo continues to play the way he has, then sure, you can make a case (though it will be incredibly hard to beat out LeBron), but this season so far has easily been Rondo's best, and the Celtics aren't playing at a high enough level to put him in the discussion in my opinion.

                  Obviously that 3rd point is subject to change though.
                  No I agree, I don't think Rondo should be an MVP, I was just saying if Rose got his it wouldn't be a big surprise to me if Rondo were to get one.

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    #54
                    Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    No I agree, I don't think Rondo should be an MVP, I was just saying if Rose got his it wouldn't be a big surprise to me if Rondo were to get one.
                    If Rondo continues to play the way he has this year, he definitely could in my opinion. 13 and 13 while shooting 52 or 53% is crazy.
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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                      If Rondo continues to play the way he has this year, he definitely could in my opinion. 13 and 13 while shooting 52 or 53% is crazy.
                      Yeah, I don't see anybody topping LeBron at this point, if he ups his PPG a little (which I'm sure he will) and he stays around 9 and 7 I'm sure he'll win it again.. Especially if the Heat end up top team in the east again...

                      With the way the Knicks are playing could you picture Melo winning MVP? I've never considered him an MVP guy but it seems as if the voters take the teams record as like 90% of the vote lol

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                      • imdrbbro
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 58

                        #56
                        Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

                        CP3 . rondo is very close but if the play break down and your on the perimeter. cp3 is gon make it happen , if rondo had a 3 pt shot he'd be unguardable

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                        • iLLosophy
                          Plata o Plomo
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 3673

                          #57
                          Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

                          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                          If Rondo continues to play the way he has this year, he definitely could in my opinion. 13 and 13 while shooting 52 or 53% is crazy.
                          He continued his assist streak last night....

                          ....albeit his 10th assist was with 59 seconds left in a game. Where they were down by 20. To the Pistons.

                          But at least Rondo got his 10 assists. MVP!

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                          • JA Money14
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                            • Mar 2012
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                            #58
                            Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

                            PG is the hardest position to pick a top player in. So much Talent.

                            You got CP3, Deron, Westbrook (even though imo he's more of a SG), Rondo, Kyrie, Rose ect.

                            At the other 4 spots theres 2 maybe 3 guys to pick from.

                            I'd say CP3 still runs the show, His passing is amazing, still on point with rondo's (or maybe a FRACTION off, but not by much) and can drop 25 any game. Rondo can't score AND pass like these other guys can so thats my beef against him, among these guys, he has by FAR the worst shot, still he passes better than any of them. even if only by a little bit, and initiates the offense.

                            1. CP3

                            2. Deron Williams

                            3. Rondo

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #59
                              Originally posted by JA Money14
                              PG is the hardest position to pick a top player in. So much Talent.

                              You got CP3, Deron, Westbrook (even though imo he's more of a SG), Rondo, Kyrie, Rose ect.

                              At the other 4 spots theres 2 maybe 3 guys to pick from.

                              I'd say CP3 still runs the show, His passing is amazing, still on point with rondo's (or maybe a FRACTION off, but not by much) and can drop 25 any game. Rondo can't score AND pass like these other guys can so thats my beef against him, among these guys, he has by FAR the worst shot, still he passes better than any of them. even if only by a little bit, and initiates the offense.

                              1. CP3

                              2. Deron Williams

                              3. Rondo
                              Can't and won't are different. Rondo passes up alot of shots (not because he's "scare" to shoot the jumper; he has been hitting the jumper consistently this year and his shot attempts are up) to feed/reward his teammates and perhaps spam the assist stat (he wants that record lol)

                              Rondo should have atleast a 16 and 10 stat line instead of 13 and 13.

                              At this point, he jump needs to improve his free throw shooting and get to the line more (which would also raise his scoring to at least 20)

                              Like The Truth said in the first game of the season, Rondo need to attack more but still be that pass first PG. Just stop over thinking lol do the opposite of Westbrook but not overkill it

                              When he does those things, then he could take that #1 spot from Chris.


                              -Juke
                              Last edited by Jukeman; 11-22-2012, 01:58 PM.

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                              • iLLosophy
                                Plata o Plomo
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 3673

                                #60
                                Re: Best Point Guard in the Game?

                                What the hell is going on with Ty Lawson this year? He does not look like the same player from last year at all.

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