San Antonio Spurs to Receive Sanctions for Resting Players

[jeebs9]

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Why do you think I've been posting some much lol. I'm just kind of shocked people don't see both sides in here. The thing that saves this situation in my opinion is that Spurs back ups came and played a great game. If that led would of got to 10+. The place would of been empty. People would been pissed off.

How do they rest players in baseball? I know they don't rest entire starting line ups. Just asking.

[BlastX21]

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Why do think I've been posting some much lol. I'm just kind of shocked people don't see both sides in here. The thing that saves this situation in my opinion is that Spurs back ups came and played a great game. If that led would of got to 10+. The place would of been empty. People would been pissed off.

How do they rest players in baseball? I know they don't rest entire starting line ups. Just asking.

I don't think people don't see both sides. I do understand why Stern did it, but that doesn't mean I can't think the reason isn't complete BS and that a fine was unjustified.

If Stern had a problem, the first step should have been to call him up and say "hey man, you benching these players on a primetime game is hurting ratings, so please don't do so in the future, or I might have to penalize you". There was no reason to go straight to punitive measures.

But while I'm here, I'll point out that if TV ratings are an issue, then you might as well fine the Spurs for existing, since they've always drawn lower ratings than other high-caliber teams.

[aholbert32]

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Why do think I've been posting some much lol. I'm just kind of shocked people don't see both sides in here. The thing that saves this situation in my opinion is that Spurs back ups came and played a great game. If that led would of got to 10+. The place would of been empty. People would been pissed off.

How do they rest players in baseball? I know they don't rest entire starting line ups. Just asking.

You would never see a team in Baseball rest their top 4 players unless they were playoff bound or way out of the race at the end of the season and wanted to give their young players a shot. Usually, one or two top players may rest at the same time.

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I think both sides have been pointed out, but the fact that David Stern decided to jump the gun

That's the biggest problem with the NBA now. It always boils down to corporate dollars.

You know why probably more than half of the fans of the NBA don't know who the Spurs are past those guys? Its because he never gave them the time of day otherwise

When they won just as many rings as the Lakers did in the decade of 2000-2010 the dude let them go on to be called boring when they were simply doing what they're doing right now

Coaches sit players every single year... and we all know he's being a hypocrite because he wouldn't have said anything if it was the ORL game

The guy is simply lashing out because he mad and and it touched his cash flow

That's it. Its not about the game, its not about the players, and its really not about the fans AT ALL.

[ex carrabba fan]

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People expect Stern to ignore this? Lol, calling him all sorts of negative names just take a second and think... he's protecting his interests. Simple as that. It's business. Money rules all.

There are no statutes on the books that prevent Pops from doing this, which personally I have no issue with what Pops did, but if you think Stern was just going to let it go then you're being unfair.

Now there will probably be some sort of standard for the league set, but I don't see how Stern will implement anything.

[aholbert32]

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I don't think people don't see both sides. I do understand why Stern did it, but that doesn't mean I can't think the reason isn't complete BS and that a fine was unjustified.

If Stern had a problem, the first step should have been to call him up and say "hey man, you benching these players on a primetime game is hurting ratings, so please don't do so in the future, or I might have to penalize you". There was no reason to go straight to punitive measures.

But while I'm here, I'll point out that if TV ratings are an issue, then you might as well fine the Spurs for existing, since they've always drawn lower ratings than other high-caliber teams.

LOL. Why would Pop need a warning? He is one of the smartest coaches ever. He knew what he was doing and he knew the ramifications. The punitive measures serve two purposes. 1) to punish Pop and 2) to serve notice to the rest of the league that this behavior wont be tolerated. A phone call doesnt do that.

Your ratings point is silly. The Spurs v. Heat is a game thats expected to rate well. What effects ratings is people hearing that the 4 best players on the team are sitting or watching the game and tuning out when you hear that the Spurs stars arent playing.

[aholbert32]

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I think both sides have been pointed out, but the fact that David Stern decided to jump the gun

That's the biggest problem with the NBA now. It always boils down to corporate dollars.

You know why probably more than half of the fans of the NBA don't know who the Spurs are past those guys? Its because he never gave them the time of day otherwise

When they won just as many rings as the Lakers did in the decade of 2000-2010 the dude let them go on to be called boring when they were simply doing what they're doing right now

Coaches sit players every single year... and we all know he's being a hypocrite because he wouldn't have said anything if it was the ORL game

The guy is simply lashing out because he mad and and it touched his cash flow

That's it. Its not about the game, its not about the players, and its really not about the fans AT ALL.

You like watching the NBA on Cable and National TV? Well thank corporate dollars. Like NBA.com...corporate dollars. Listening to some of you guys, I would think you would want the NBA to go back to the dark ages when the playoffs were shown on tape delay.


WTF? Huh? As commissioner, how do you control whether the press calls a team boring? I've seen commercials sponsored by the NBA featuring the Spurs in the playoffs over the last few years.

What you are missing is the big issue is how brazen Pop was about it. He didnt keep the guys on the road trip. He sent them home. Also somebody please give me an example of another time a coach has EVER benched his four best players at the same time in the first 4 months of a season. ****, anyone ever doing this outside of April (which is prime tanking/resting season).

[superjames1992]

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The NBA has done this to themselves with their constant emphasis over the individual over the team.

[ojandpizza]

I see both sides, but one side is just complete bull****. Pops job isn't to make those fans happy, his job isn't to make sure TV gets Stern the money he wants. His job as head coach is to do what he thinks is best for his team..

I usually go to a few Grizz games each season just because its the closest team. Would I be mad if I went to a Heat game and the big 3 didn't play? Probably a little yes. But a few angry fans is much different than a punishment from the commissioner when the coach was only doing his job all along..

It blows my mind how little publicity the spurs seem to get over the season and one big game the stars don't play in results in this outrage? How Spurs fans would there even be in Miami anyways? lol..

Pop has been great for the NBA, winning rings, building a contender each season, and coaching up the best PF in league history, and Stern does this to him???

[ex carrabba fan]

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One side is complete BS? That doesn't really make any sense. Both sides are looking out for their best interests. I'd say both sides have a case and Stephen A Smith explained everything perfectly, along with Aholbert.

Both sides have reasons for their actions.

Why would Stern not say anything or take action? He wouldn't be doing his job.

As far as the NBA scheduling the Spurs on a long trip, well the schedule maker again, go **** off. Nobody to blame but yourself.

There are several key points for both sides already being beaten to death but to call one side BS is unfair.

The sanctions should be interesting though, if they come at all. A fine wouldn't be too bad. A suspension to Pops would be like cutting your nose off to spite your face. That wouldn't make any sense to me.

[BlastX21]

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The Spurs v. Heat is a game thats expected to rate well.

Fair enough.

LOL. Why would Pop need a warning? He is one of the smartest coaches ever. He knew what he was doing and he knew the ramifications. The punitive measures serve two purposes. 1) to punish Pop and 2) to serve notice to the rest of the league that this behavior wont be tolerated. A phone call doesnt do that.

1. Its unnecessary to send a message to the rest of the league because Pop is the only coach in the NBA who would do this.

2. If Stern talked to Pop first hand about this issue, its unlikely he'll do this again. I mean c'mon. If the commissioner of the league talks to you directly and says, "don't do this again", are you really gonna do it again?

I mean, call him, release a statement condemning his actions, whatever you want to do, but at least attempt a peaceful resolution before jumping straight to...whatever the heck Stern is going to do.

[ojandpizza]

One side is complete BS? That doesn't really make any sense. Both sides are looking out for their best interests. I'd say both sides have a case and Stephen A Smith explained everything perfectly, along with Aholbert.

Both sides have reasons for their actions.

Why would Stern not say anything or take action? He wouldn't be doing his job.

As far as the NBA scheduling the Spurs on a long trip, well the schedule maker again, go **** off. Nobody to blame but yourself.

There are several key points for both sides already being beaten to death but to call one side BS is unfair.

The sanctions should be interesting though, if they come at all. A fine wouldn't be too bad. A suspension to Pops would be like cutting your nose off to spite your face. That wouldn't make any sense to me.

It isn't Sterns place to decide who a coach plays/doesn't play or starts/doesn't start. That's all I'm trying to say.

The only reason this is gathering any attention is because it was against the Heat and it was Nationally televised.. Neither of which is any concern to Pop.

[ex carrabba fan]

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It isn't Sterns place to decide who a coach plays/doesn't play or starts/doesn't start. That's all I'm trying to say.

The only reason this is gathering any attention is because it was against the Heat and it was Nationally televised.. Neither of which is any concern to Pop.

Pops has never done this any other time with uninjured players so your second statement isn't absolute. We don't know what would happen if they weren't playing the Heat on TNT.

It's Stern's place to protect his stakeholders and interests. He makes decisions based off what he thinks is best for business. That means it is his place in a sense to ensure his teams put a worthy product on the floor or at least attempt to in an acceptable fashion.

[bigeastbumrush]

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I know this forum is very anti-Stern but I'm kind of shocked at the response. Pop chose to rest his best FOUR players who werent injured.

I have Wizards season tickets (I know its a shame) and they play the Heat on Monday. Now if Spo chooses to rest Wade because they are coming off a long road trip, I'm OK with it but if he chooses to bench Wade, Bron and Bosh, I would be ****ing furious. I bought those tickets with the expectation that barring injury, the stars would play. Resting 1 star is understandable but 4? When people paid their hard earned money to watch them play?

I agree with Stern's position from an advertising/TV perspective too. The networks and advertisers have the same expectation as the fans....that the stars will play barring injury. Everyone knows that stars draw ratings in the NBA. Now say I'm the head of marketing at Sprite, I bought ad time during that game and expected that the game would do a 1.0 rating. Then I read that Pop pulled his best players and find out that the ratings for this game were lower than expected...I would consider pulling ads from NBA broadcasts.

Add to that that because of the lower rating, TNT now has to issue make goods (free advertisements) to those advertisers who bought time during the game. Its shortsighted to just think that Pop's responsibility is only to his team. The fans, advertisers and the league are significant reasons the league exists.

The head coach of a team could give a damn about ratings.

The issue is between the schedule makers and Stern. Leave Pop out of the discussion.

Was Stern "protecting his interests" last year when he forced the season to start on Christmas Day and crammed all of those games onto the schedule as marquee player after marquee player went down with injuries? Of course he was and the product suffered. Not because of a coach's decision but because the players could not keep up with the pace.

Having Derrick Rose, Iman Shumpert, Baron Davis, etc all blow out their knees on national TV is good for ratings, huh? How do you think the corporate guys at Adidas felt about that?

[ex carrabba fan]

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The head coach of a team could give a damn about ratings.

The issue is between the schedule makers and Stern. Leave Pop out of the discussion.

Was Stern "protecting his interests" last year when he forced the season to start on Christmas Day and crammed all of those games onto the schedule as marquee player after marquee player went down with injuries? Of course he was and the product suffered. No because of a coach's decision bu because the players could not keep up with the pace.

Having Derrick Rose, Iman Shumpert, Baron Davis, etc all blow out their knees on national TV is good for ratings, huh? How do you think the corporate guys at Adidas felt about that?

Are you really blaming Stern for injuries?