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  • Kashanova
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 12695

    #91
    Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by niharjhatn
    You take out Kobe's 3's and he was otherwise deadly... scoring 54+% FG.

    Lakers are still stuck in the same way for the last several years - no outside shooting. And given the league's growing importance on the 3 this is going to be a bigger handicap on the lakers. They clog the middle but have no reliable shooting around them... and Kobe's never been a good outside shooter.
    if you want to play the hypothetical game, if you take out the bailout foul calls then his fg% goes back to average/below average

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #92
      Originally posted by 23
      Well Kobe blaming Dwights FTs tonight

      Dwight blaming the defense
      Remember when it was entertaining to talk about the Knicks franchise?

      I do feel bad for Lakers fans. I say that honestly because I really don't dislike any teams in the league. Right now Lakers fans are dealing with some real crap.

      Inner bickering. Bad coaching. Poor bench depth. Misdirected accountability.

      This better be D'Antoni's final coaching job. I will feel no pity for any team that decides to hire this guy two years from now when he's fired by Buss.


      Sent from my mobile device.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • Kashanova
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 12695

        #93
        Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by 23
        Well Kobe blaming Dwights FTs tonight

        Dwight blaming the defense

        Kobe is playing like Bad Russ right now.. the dude keeps chucking 27, 28, 29, 30 shots and its no justification for that ever

        That means he doesn't believe in his teammates at all and doesn't care... dude is out there trying to make sure Kobe looks good win or lose
        Pau didn't play, so you know he has to blame someone

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47565

          #94
          Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

          I just want some people to see what I'm talking about with Kobe Bryant right now. And I think people really need to look into the things that are going on with him. I count at least 2-3 fastbreaks where he has 3 on 2's and he keeps the ball for the toughest looks. It just doesn't make any sense at this point of the season. I think he needs to trust his teammates more. Especially in Dan-Toni offense. Which is about spreading the floor and getting easy shots/looks. They are called fastbreaks because you get easy looks.
          0:34 Didn't even attempt to move the ball around (granted he got the blocking call on Lin)
          3:50 Jamison wide open in the corner
          He's not to blame but. I just don't know what he's trying to prove out there. It's only a matter of time until he hurt himself playing like that.
          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/QE3eNvGw9Hg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
          But the Dwight situation. I understand about giving him a chance to knock down the freethrows. Because at the end of the day Dwight Howard is an important part of your team. Laker fans be ready to see a whole lot of Hack-a-Dwight.
          This team needs Steve Nash very badly.
           
          Anyone which the Heat finally get burn for not playing 48 minutes of basketball?
          Also Jordan Crawford = Jamal Crawford maybe?
          Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #95
            Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by niharjhatn
            You take out Kobe's 3's and he was otherwise deadly... scoring 54+% FG.

            Lakers are still stuck in the same way for the last several years - no outside shooting. And given the league's growing importance on the 3 this is going to be a bigger handicap on the lakers. They clog the middle but have no reliable shooting around them... and Kobe's never been a good outside shooter.
            Can I ask you something sir?

            What good does it do to take that many shots, when your 2nd best player is only getting in 9 shots, and you are completely invisible on the defensive side of the court?


            SMH, I mean CMH you feel sorry for them? You sir are alone

            DAntoni pulling that job security rank in the 4th qtr

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            • JODYE
              JB4MVP
              • May 2012
              • 4834

              #96
              Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

              I feel like Kobe has this mode, where if he knows they are going to lose, he goes into score at all costs mode just so he can go into interviews and bitch about other players performances.

              How many times have we seen him score 30-40 and the Lakers lose by double digits? This is nothing new. Kobe is going to get his, anyway he can, even if it's detrimental to the team.
              Cubs | Bulls | Dolphins | 'Noles
              The artist formerly known as "13"
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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #97
                Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by 23

                SMH, I mean CMH you feel sorry for them? You sir are alone
                Ha. I just feel bad for any fans that have Mike D'Antoni as their favorite team's coach.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #98
                  Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  Ha. I just feel bad for any fans that have Mike D'Antoni as their favorite team's coach.
                  They had Mike Brown and didnt want him though

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #99
                    Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by 13
                    I feel like Kobe has this mode, where if he knows they are going to lose, he goes into score at all costs mode just so he can go into interviews and bitch about other players performances.

                    How many times have we seen him score 30-40 and the Lakers lose by double digits? This is nothing new. Kobe is going to get his, anyway he can, even if it's detrimental to the team.
                    And people still continue to act surprised by all of this.

                    He's been this way for YEARS and it's likely not going to change. Same thing with the Gasol thing as well. People saying he needs to speak up or be a man? Stop it, this is who he is and has been. You can't just MAKE somebody become a man or grow a pair if they haven't by now.

                    What's more likely to come first: The World ending in 17 days or anybody on the Lakers stepping to Kobe Bean Bryant about an issue they have with him?
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • JODYE
                      JB4MVP
                      • May 2012
                      • 4834

                      #100
                      Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      And people still continue to act surprised by all of this.

                      He's been this way for YEARS and it's likely not going to change. Same thing with the Gasol thing as well. People saying he needs to speak up or be a man? Stop it, this is who he is and has been. You can't just MAKE somebody become a man or grow a pair if they haven't by now.

                      What's more likely to come first: The World ending in 17 days or anybody on the Lakers stepping to Kobe Bean Bryant about an issue they have with him?
                      Definitely the world ending.
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                      The artist formerly known as "13"
                      "Heroes get remembered, but legends never die..."


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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47565

                        #101
                        Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                        We all know he's been doing it for years. But I would think at his age. He would be a little more about team ball. After winning championships by sharing the ball. He's not going to win at that kind of pace. I don't mind some of the half court shots he took. What bothers me are the fastbreaks where he blackholes the ball. 3 on 2's are suppose to result in a lay up. Or a check my feet 3 pointer in the corner.
                        Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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                        • SidVish
                          2010,13,15,16 CHAMPS!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 11743

                          #102
                          Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          And people still continue to act surprised by all of this.

                          He's been this way for YEARS and it's likely not going to change. Same thing with the Gasol thing as well. People saying he needs to speak up or be a man? Stop it, this is who he is and has been. You can't just MAKE somebody become a man or grow a pair if they haven't by now.

                          What's more likely to come first: The World ending in 17 days or anybody on the Lakers stepping to Kobe Bean Bryant about an issue they have with him?
                          Agreed. The guy has been in the league for 16 years. That damn leopard isn't changing his spots!
                          "You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish
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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #103
                            Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by SidVish
                            Agreed. The guy has been in the league for 16 years. That damn leopard isn't changing his spots!
                            And the sad thing is, he's always going to point to his right hand with a ring on each finger and say "shut up". It's a shame really, what type of player Kobe is compared to what he could have been. However again, by the same token, he has jewelry and even when people point to Shaq or Pau or Phil for his jewelry, facts still remain that he'll go down as one of the best to ever play. That's his ace in the hole to shut us up on how he plays. It's a shame.

                            Anywho, Pau Gasol was definitely a beast for three years. 2007-2010, the years LA made finals appearances. He was a beast in the paint and on the boards. Don't forget about those years Pack. He played like that because he was the center and only big man on the floor. When Andrew came back healthy in 2010-2011 season is when he started playing shy. It's been like that ever since now with Dwight too. He hasn't quite figured out how to best utilize a twin tower.

                            On the flipside, Kobe and everyone else needs to help him figure it out instead of taking shots at him.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #104
                              Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                              Pointing to rings is no excuse to play basketball like this

                              Tim Duncan doesn't do it and he has rings

                              Robert Horry had rings, so did Fisher and Shaq and none of them did it

                              Jacking up 30 shots a game is not the reason that he or any other player won rings

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #105
                                Re: 12/3 - 12/9 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by 23
                                Pointing to rings is no excuse to play basketball like this

                                Tim Duncan doesn't do it and he has rings

                                Robert Horry had rings, so did Fisher and Shaq and none of them did it

                                Jacking up 30 shots a game is not the reason that he or any other player won rings
                                No it isn't, but that's my point. When you have rings it's not exactly easy to convince that person that his way is not the best way to play. Kobe's the type of guy to tell you he has one more ring than either Duncan or Shaq.

                                Please don't compare Robert Horry or Fisher to Kobe Bryant either.

                                It's not a matter of excuses. It's a matter of him being stubborn and saying 'look, I've been in the league for a long time, I've got hardware, aint nobody gonna tell me how to play this game'. Simple.

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