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  • Altimus
    Chelsea, Assemble!
    • Nov 2004
    • 27283

    #241
    Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

    Well, that's what happens when you don't have a true 3 or 5 to come of the bench. Nazr at this point is 12th man and not backup center. Not having a true SF on the bench doesn't help either.

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    • z Revis
      Hall Of Fame
      • Oct 2008
      • 13639

      #242
      Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

      Originally posted by 13
      Yeah, Bulls rotation is stretched thin about every game.

      Also, that Rose J is looking silky. They had better video of him shooting at Berto and he was lights out. Obviously warm up shooting is a little different than game speed but his form looked tighter than before.
      When is he supposed to be back? Haven't heard anything about him in awhile. I hope his recovery is going well. I hate the Bulls, but I can't ever hate Rose.
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      • JODYE
        JB4MVP
        • May 2012
        • 4834

        #243
        Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

        Originally posted by z Revis
        When is he supposed to be back? Haven't heard anything about him in awhile. I hope his recovery is going well. I hate the Bulls, but I can't ever hate Rose.
        They are playing that "no timetable" game. He's participating in limited controlled contact drills now, and running and jumping. Still looking at late March, early April as a possible time, at least from the way their moving him along IMO.

        Honestly, I'd rather him sit out the entire year. The future of our franchise is in that surgically repaired knee.
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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #244
          Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

          Originally posted by iRepIndiana
          The more Lebron carries this team as"mr. Everything" because that is what he is to the Heat. He'll end up getting hurt seriously within the next 3 years. He can't continue this pace of scoring 30, rebounding 10, running point, and guarding the other teams best player while playing 39 mins a night

          He's Miami's Mr. Everything whether ppl like it or not.
          Because of LeBron, the Heat are playing pretty much without a PG and a Center. My guess is that it'll probably be a lower back injury of some type moreso than his legs.

          But even the best of players who were asked to do less went down. Lebron's not exempt. But Riley and Spo are gonna ride him until the wheels fall off.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #245
            LeBrons game is to be Mr Everything...he's averaged that same 26 7 and 6 pretty much his whole career. You can't tell him to stop scoring, passing and rebounding...that's what he does naturally

            You can maybe take away his minutes at the 4, but he's not really doing anything unusual for a player his age IMO...I'm sure he's tired from a Finals run and the Olympics, but that's the NBA.

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #246
              Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              I believe that it's an increase in the wear and tear on his body. Again 38 MPG isn't so bad for an NBA player in their 20's, but for a guy that is literally doing EVERYTHING for his team, it's too much. As mentioned he's leading his team in pretty much every statistic, he's playing out of position banging against dudes just as big and bigger than him.
              Ehhh I guess.

              I get that he's the leading scorer, rebounder and their best defender(although I seriously doubt that it's by design and that's also who he was going to be the second he got in the NBA)but people are acting like his career is being shortened every year because of the amount of minutes he played, which is why I asked that question. If it's not affecting his health in the short term or long term, then I personally don't see it as big deal.

              Which is why I don't necessarily blame Spoelstra either because I'm sure he doesn't go into every game thinking, "Ok Lebron, you're going to play 40+ minutes tonight". Things happen, especially in a middle of game and during an 82 game season. Wasn't part of the reason Rashard Lewis was brought in was so that they wouldn't have to worry about playing Lebron that much every night?
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              • King_B_Mack
                All Star
                • Jan 2009
                • 24450

                #247
                Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                LeBron is 28, that **** is going to catch up to him sooner or later.

                LeBron's career minutes.

                39.5
                42.4
                42.5
                40.9
                40.4
                37.7
                39.0
                38.8
                37.5
                38.5

                Dude really does not need to keep this pace up. He's going to, but I don't think it's wise.

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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #248
                  Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                  All I'm saying is, it's the nature of superstar players. Throughout history. I brought up MJ because he was asked to do everything.. score, post, shoot, facilitate, guard the other team's best player etc. etc.

                  I brought up Malone because he's similar in size to LeBron and he took a pounding throughout his career. He did most of all the heavy lifting.

                  Both MJ and Malone both played similar minutes to LeBron.

                  If you're not expecting LeBron to be top 5 in minutes during his prime years, well you're living in a dreamworld.

                  If you guys want to continue to play armchair coach, that's good for you. Spo continues to get criticism and he will continue to get it even after he probably makes the finals this year. Oh well. You guys know better I guess.

                  LeBron himself wouldn't choose to play any less minutes regardless of what it might do to his career. Competitors play this much in the NBA, superstars do this. It's nothing new under the sun.

                  Like I said though, after this year I think you will see his body start to slow down just a bit. That could lead to his minutes winding down as well.

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14833

                    #249
                    Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                    That's why Pop is the best coach in the NBA.

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #250
                      Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      All I'm saying is, it's the nature of superstar players. Throughout history. I brought up MJ because he was asked to do everything.. score, post, shoot, facilitate, guard the other team's best player etc. etc.

                      I brought up Malone because he's similar in size to LeBron and he took a pounding throughout his career. He did most of all the heavy lifting.

                      Both MJ and Malone both played similar minutes to LeBron.

                      If you're not expecting LeBron to be top 5 in minutes during his prime years, well you're living in a dreamworld.

                      If you guys want to continue to play armchair coach, that's good for you. Spo continues to get criticism and he will continue to get it even after he probably makes the finals this year. Oh well. You guys know better I guess.

                      LeBron himself wouldn't choose to play any less minutes regardless of what it might do to his career. Competitors play this much in the NBA, superstars do this. It's nothing new under the sun.

                      Like I said though, after this year I think you will see his body start to slow down just a bit. That could lead to his minutes winding down as well.
                      Jordan definitely wasn't asked to do everything in his prime. Maybe when he was still playing with Corzine and that crew, but you're kidding yourself if you're saying he had to do everything after Pip and Grant came along.

                      EDIT: Also find it kind of funny that you were the one harping about him not even being top five in minutes and as soon as he gets there it's a dreamworld to expect him to not be in the top five.
                      Last edited by King_B_Mack; 01-09-2013, 01:00 PM.

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                      • Jdoug312
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1585

                        #251
                        Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        I brought up MJ because he was asked to do everything.. score, post, shoot, facilitate, guard the other team's best player etc. etc.
                        Could've just summed it up with "score" lol.

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #252
                          Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          Jordan definitely wasn't asked to do everything in his prime. Maybe when he was still playing with Corzine and that crew, but you're kidding yourself if you're saying he had to do everything after Pip and Grant came along.

                          EDIT: Also find it kind of funny that you were the one harping about him not even being top five in minutes and as soon as he gets there it's a dreamworld to expect him to not be in the top five.
                          MJ wasn't asked to do everything his first 10 years?

                          That's great that you find it funny about the top 5 in minutes, my point was that people were complaining about Bron's minutes when he wasn't even in the top 5. That was surprising to me since he should be top 5 in minutes, he is the best player in the league and still relatively young.

                          My point stands, if you don't think he should be top 5 in minutes you're not being realistic.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #253
                            Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                            Originally posted by Jdoug312
                            Could've just summed it up with "score" lol.
                            I wanted to indicate that he was in the post, came off screens, handled the ball and initiated the offense. Just like LeBron does. Except MJ probably operated in an era where defenses were allowed to be a bit more physical than today.

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                            • z Revis
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 13639

                              #254
                              Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

                              Originally posted by 13
                              They are playing that "no timetable" game. He's participating in limited controlled contact drills now, and running and jumping. Still looking at late March, early April as a possible time, at least from the way their moving him along IMO.

                              Honestly, I'd rather him sit out the entire year. The future of our franchise is in that surgically repaired knee.
                              Damn. Yeah, if it's going to be that late I'd probably sit him too.
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                              • SidVish
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                                • Apr 2003
                                • 11743

                                #255
                                Re: 1/7 - 1/13 Games Discussion Thread.

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