You don't see post men with an unstoppable game like this anymore!

[InthePaint]

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Im assuming you guys are referring to the young bigs of today right?

Apparently Tim Duncan doesnt count.

[ehh]

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Post play just isn't utilized the way it once was.

If you look back, guys like Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, etc were averaging as many shot attempts as guys like Kobe, Melo, Durant.. Big men just aren't used the way they once were.

Mostly because of the zones, in addition the lack of talented bigs.

Up until the 2000's half the NBA offenses were simple inside-out offenses. Throw it in to the big, let him eat until he forced a double team. Then once the double came just live on kickouts and ball reversals.

[Vni]

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Sometimes I wonder if any of the guys in today's game could do some work on the block.

It's tough for me to say they can't because I've actually rarely saw any if them even have the opportunity.

Post play just isn't utilized the way it once was.

If you look back, guys like Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, etc were averaging as many shot attempts as guys like Kobe, Melo, Durant.. Big men just aren't used the way they once were.

Yeah everytime you watch a 90's, 00's game that's the first thing you realise. I've watched again Bulls at Jazz 1998 game 6 yesterday, they basically posted up like 80% of the possessions.

[ehh]

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Yeah everytime you watch a 90's, 00's game that's the first thing you realise. I've watched again Bulls at Jazz 1998 game 6 yesterday, they basically posted up like 80% of the possessions.

Besides the fact that the post players were effective, it's much more difficult for defenses to rotate and keep "ball-you-man" principles against an inside-out offense.

Every defender's natural reaction, after an entry pass to the low post, is to turn their head to the post player making the catch. It opens up all kinds of fades, cuts and relocations, etc.

[d11king]

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Bynum and Kevin Mchale aren't even on the same planet. McHale's post game is head and shoulders above Bynum. Hell they shouldn't be in the same sentence

Where in that post did you see me say Bynum's post game is light years ahead of McHale. I just provided a video with Bynum's post moves, and said, "I thought Bynum had a really really good post game"... McHale's not was not in the same sentence, hell, McHale's name wasn't even mentioned so I'm confused as to whether you were trying to punk me just now haha.

[SteelersFreak]

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Apparently Tim Duncan doesnt count.

Tim Duncan is not a player from this generation. There are NO young big men with any sort of solid back-to-the-basket post game. Roy Hibbert is borderline terrible offensively and the rest are all face up guys or are in the league due to their defensive capabilities.

[Vni]

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So Duncan, Nowitzki and KG are the last big mens with a great post game in today's NBA?

That's gona be sad when they all retire.

[InthePaint]

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Tim Duncan is not a player from this generation. There are NO young big men with any sort of solid back-to-the-basket post game. Roy Hibbert is borderline terrible offensively and the rest are all face up guys or are in the league due to their defensive capabilities.

And Pau Gasol?

[Rensational14]

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You can't tell me that you still see a post game like this in the NBA. The post game is a lost art now...

Thats just Up&under cheese! lol

[The 24th Letter]

Unfortunately offense aren't built to dump the ball in the post anymore...I think that's more of the case than there not being any post players, though there's not as many....We (San Antonio) hardly post Duncan anymore, Pau's post game is rotting away in LA...it goes on...

and as much as Bynums an ***, his post game is on point. He has a great combination if power, size and touch, and as much as he's injured, that touch never goes away....too bad we hardly get to see it...if he could stay on the court, his post game would probably scary good by now...

Him and McHale have two different post games... but I definitely think he could be just as effective if you look beyond the names "Bynum" and "McHale"...

[wwharton]

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Where in that post did you see me say Bynum's post game is light years ahead of McHale. I just provided a video with Bynum's post moves, and said, "I thought Bynum had a really really good post game"... McHale's not was not in the same sentence, hell, McHale's name wasn't even mentioned so I'm confused as to whether you were trying to punk me just now haha.

I actually had your back on this one. It's not a Kevin McHale thread. Not to mention, comparing post games to McHale is like comparing overall game to Jordan... very short thread if everyone has to measure up to be mentioned.

I was one who always said healthy Bynum was on par with D12 bc of his offensive (read, post) game. Shaq had an insane post game also, but he was so powerful (and god awful from 10 feet and out), a lot of people may not realized how skilled he was around the basket.

One guy I may put on par with McHale was Hakeem. The dream shake was deadly.

[SteelersFreak]

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And Pau Gasol?

Pau is 32, he's not a member of the young generation either, and his abilities in the post have faded considerably.

I don't see what you're arguing, I never said there weren't any players in the league with abilities to play down on the block, I said there aren't any young guys, and there aren't.

[wwharton]

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Pau is 32, he's not a member of the young generation either, and his abilities in the post have faded considerably.

I don't see what you're arguing, I never said there weren't any players in the league with abilities to play down on the block, I said there aren't any young guys, and there aren't.

I think he's waiting for ANYONE to mention Gasol (old, young, whatever), lol. Honestly though, he's right, Gasol deserves a mention with the older group. I also don't think his post game is fading... they've gone away from it but I bet he still has it in him.

[iLLosophy]

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Al Jefferson? People are sleeping on him but not surprising, it's nothing new...

[SteelersFreak]

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I think he's waiting for ANYONE to mention Gasol (old, young, whatever), lol. Honestly though, he's right, Gasol deserves a mention with the older group. I also don't think his post game is fading... they've gone away from it but I bet he still has it in him.

Its unfortunate that we're probably not gonna find out if he's still got it until at least next season whether he stays in LA or not.