Bucks really need PG,SG,SF help. If im Bucks id let the ttio of Jennings,Ellis,Redick leave & draft a guard this yr & hope for Wiggins next yr
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Bucks really need PG,SG,SF help. If im Bucks id let the ttio of Jennings,Ellis,Redick leave & draft a guard this yr & hope for Wiggins next yr -
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I don't see how Noel is any worse offensively than Gobert, and I would say he is more of a sure thing defensively.I wouldn't take Nerlens higher than #5.
C/PF is the strength of this very weak draft class IMO. I think Nerlens is a PF. He has no offensive game. I'd take Gorbert and Len before I take Nerlens. And Gorbert is a project but I think he'll eventually contribute somehow on offense. Gorbert would be my #1 C/PF and Len would be my #2 off the board. Nerlens would be my #3.
I like Steven Adams of Pitt as well and I'd take him over Zeller.
Len is interesting to me. His production at Maryland wasn't great, but I think he'll be a better NBA player than a college player. He's number 2 of all the big men for me.Tennessee Volunteers
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I look at Nerlens like Hakim Warrick. Can score in transition, get weak side blocks but nothing worthy of being a top pick in the draft IMO.I don't see how Noel is any worse offensively than Gobert, and I would say he is more of a sure thing defensively.
Len is interesting to me. His production at Maryland wasn't great, but I think he'll be a better NBA player than a college player. He's number 2 of all the big men for me.
To me, Gobert's upside is so much more higher.Comment
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As of right now probably so. He's played like a top 5 PG for most of this season.
But as far as coming in and as a rookie and having that immediate impact not really.
You just don't see those guys anymore, guys who come in and are basically All Stars from day 1.. Maybe LeBron and Melo are the most recent? Idk. Blake Griffin was great, but his rookie season was really his second year so he had that time to develop.
It just seems like those guys aren't out there as much as they used to be.. Anthony Davis was projected to be one of them, Greg Oden, but it didn't happen.Comment
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Im liking Shane Larkin to the Bucks now, dude is athletic as hellComment
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Eh, I think he'll be one of the last couple picks of the 1st round pick if that. You just don't see people as short as he is with as small a wingspan as he has in the NBA, and he doesn't seem to play as athletic as he tested.
At 15, if Milwaukee goes PG, I want MCW or Schroeder.
Also, MCW with a 41" max vertical. That's great for someone his size. Curious to see how he tests on the lane agility though; that will ease team's concerns about him being able to stay with PGs in the league if he tests well.NFL: Bills
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I see Larkin as a Ty Lawson type that can jump like Bledsoe, I think MCW & Schroader r gone by 15Comment
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Eh, just don't think Larkin is nearly as good as Lawson was. I loved Lawson coming out. Think Larkin has been overrated pretty badly.
And I think MCW is pretty much guaranteed to be gone by 15, especially since he just put up a great lane agility time. Not sure if 3 PGs get taken in the lottery though. Schroeder could make it. I'd honestly like to move up.NFL: Bills
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Isnt there a rumor Schroeder got a promise from a lotto team already? (maybe Jazz)Comment
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You are selling Noel mighty short, IMO.
He's one of the best shot blockers to come out in the past decade, and does a great job of getting on-ball steals and playing passing lanes. He's also very good at playing the PnR, and has elite lateral quickness to go along with his explosiveness, bounce, and length.
He's still very raw offensively, and I don't think he'll ever become a big-time scorer. Still though, he can finish very well at the rim and has at least shown a great willingness to improve his game. I think NBA coaching can only help him in that regard, and playing in the right system.
He definitely needs to add weight and in particular lower body strength, but he's only 18 years old so he's definitely capable of it.
I liken him to Joakim Noah. And I think that if you can get a player like that as your anchor defensively (Especially in the Bobcats case) then you go for him if there isn't a more elite player out there, which I don't see in this draft.Ohio State Buckeyes | Carolina Panthers | Charlotte Hornets | Cincinnati RedsComment
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Larkin is a better shooter but he isn't as fast, as quick or as strong(Lawson was built for a small PG) as Lawson was coming out. Also Lawson was a much better finisher than Larkin. Larkin can't finish over length like Lawson can."This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib KweliComment
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Maybe, but it could easily just be his agent trying to drum up more interest. If take a guy like Larkin at 15 and Schroeder goes 14, I'll lose my ****. At that point, you gotta jump over the Jazz if we want a PG.NFL: Bills
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Injuries derailed Davis last year. When he was healthy you saw how good he really is/can be. Does making the all-star in your rookie year matter a ton anyway?As of right now probably so. He's played like a top 5 PG for most of this season.
But as far as coming in and as a rookie and having that immediate impact not really.
You just don't see those guys anymore, guys who come in and are basically All Stars from day 1.. Maybe LeBron and Melo are the most recent? Idk. Blake Griffin was great, but his rookie season was really his second year so he had that time to develop.
It just seems like those guys aren't out there as much as they used to be.. Anthony Davis was projected to be one of them, Greg Oden, but it didn't happen.Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
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Nerlens isn't going to be able to get those blocks guarding guys straight up. He isn't going to have that strength to body a guy like that. I'm not sure how much weight he's actually going to be able to put on. He doesn't have the frame and broad shoulders like Anthony Davis does. And who knows what kind of improvement he'll have in his lower body over the course of his career. His legs are already rail thin.You are selling Noel mighty short, IMO.
He's one of the best shot blockers to come out in the past decade, and does a great job of getting on-ball steals and playing passing lanes. He's also very good at playing the PnR, and has elite lateral quickness to go along with his explosiveness, bounce, and length.
He's still very raw offensively, and I don't think he'll ever become a big-time scorer. Still though, he can finish very well at the rim and has at least shown a great willingness to improve his game. I think NBA coaching can only help him in that regard, and playing in the right system.
He definitely needs to add weight and in particular lower body strength, but he's only 18 years old so he's definitely capable of it.
I liken him to Joakim Noah. And I think that if you can get a player like that as your anchor defensively (Especially in the Bobcats case) then you go for him if there isn't a more elite player out there, which I don't see in this draft.
I don't see the Noah comparison because Noah always struck me as a high level rebounder, not shot blocker.
And I wouldn't call Nerlens elite. Seems more like a complimentary guy.Comment

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