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  • LoSoisNiCEx414
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    • Sep 2010
    • 1162

    #211
    Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

    Bucks really need PG,SG,SF help. If im Bucks id let the ttio of Jennings,Ellis,Redick leave & draft a guard this yr & hope for Wiggins next yr

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    • volstopfan14
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      • Jul 2010
      • 2307

      #212
      Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
      I wouldn't take Nerlens higher than #5.

      C/PF is the strength of this very weak draft class IMO. I think Nerlens is a PF. He has no offensive game. I'd take Gorbert and Len before I take Nerlens. And Gorbert is a project but I think he'll eventually contribute somehow on offense. Gorbert would be my #1 C/PF and Len would be my #2 off the board. Nerlens would be my #3.

      I like Steven Adams of Pitt as well and I'd take him over Zeller.
      I don't see how Noel is any worse offensively than Gobert, and I would say he is more of a sure thing defensively.

      Len is interesting to me. His production at Maryland wasn't great, but I think he'll be a better NBA player than a college player. He's number 2 of all the big men for me.
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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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        #213
        Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

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        • bigeastbumrush
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          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #214
          Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by volstopfan14
          I don't see how Noel is any worse offensively than Gobert, and I would say he is more of a sure thing defensively.

          Len is interesting to me. His production at Maryland wasn't great, but I think he'll be a better NBA player than a college player. He's number 2 of all the big men for me.
          I look at Nerlens like Hakim Warrick. Can score in transition, get weak side blocks but nothing worthy of being a top pick in the draft IMO.

          To me, Gobert's upside is so much more higher.

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          • ojandpizza
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            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #215
            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Would you put Steph Curry in that category or say he's been closer than those two in terms of what you said?
            As of right now probably so. He's played like a top 5 PG for most of this season.

            But as far as coming in and as a rookie and having that immediate impact not really.

            You just don't see those guys anymore, guys who come in and are basically All Stars from day 1.. Maybe LeBron and Melo are the most recent? Idk. Blake Griffin was great, but his rookie season was really his second year so he had that time to develop.

            It just seems like those guys aren't out there as much as they used to be.. Anthony Davis was projected to be one of them, Greg Oden, but it didn't happen.

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            • LoSoisNiCEx414
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              • Sep 2010
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              #216
              Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

              Im liking Shane Larkin to the Bucks now, dude is athletic as hell

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                #217
                Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
                Im liking Shane Larkin to the Bucks now, dude is athletic as hell
                Eh, I think he'll be one of the last couple picks of the 1st round pick if that. You just don't see people as short as he is with as small a wingspan as he has in the NBA, and he doesn't seem to play as athletic as he tested.

                At 15, if Milwaukee goes PG, I want MCW or Schroeder.

                Also, MCW with a 41" max vertical. That's great for someone his size. Curious to see how he tests on the lane agility though; that will ease team's concerns about him being able to stay with PGs in the league if he tests well.
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                • LoSoisNiCEx414
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #218
                  Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                  I see Larkin as a Ty Lawson type that can jump like Bledsoe, I think MCW & Schroader r gone by 15

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    #219
                    Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                    Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
                    I see Larkin as a Ty Lawson type that can jump like Bledsoe, I think MCW & Schroader r gone by 15
                    Eh, just don't think Larkin is nearly as good as Lawson was. I loved Lawson coming out. Think Larkin has been overrated pretty badly.

                    And I think MCW is pretty much guaranteed to be gone by 15, especially since he just put up a great lane agility time. Not sure if 3 PGs get taken in the lottery though. Schroeder could make it. I'd honestly like to move up.
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                    • LoSoisNiCEx414
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      #220
                      Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                      Isnt there a rumor Schroeder got a promise from a lotto team already? (maybe Jazz)

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                      • Sportsbuck
                        The Predator
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 4326

                        #221
                        Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                        I look at Nerlens like Hakim Warrick. Can score in transition, get weak side blocks but nothing worthy of being a top pick in the draft IMO.

                        To me, Gobert's upside is so much more higher.
                        You are selling Noel mighty short, IMO.

                        He's one of the best shot blockers to come out in the past decade, and does a great job of getting on-ball steals and playing passing lanes. He's also very good at playing the PnR, and has elite lateral quickness to go along with his explosiveness, bounce, and length.

                        He's still very raw offensively, and I don't think he'll ever become a big-time scorer. Still though, he can finish very well at the rim and has at least shown a great willingness to improve his game. I think NBA coaching can only help him in that regard, and playing in the right system.

                        He definitely needs to add weight and in particular lower body strength, but he's only 18 years old so he's definitely capable of it.

                        I liken him to Joakim Noah. And I think that if you can get a player like that as your anchor defensively (Especially in the Bobcats case) then you go for him if there isn't a more elite player out there, which I don't see in this draft.
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                        • TheBrothers24
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                          #222
                          Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                          Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
                          I see Larkin as a Ty Lawson type that can jump like Bledsoe, I think MCW & Schroader r gone by 15
                          Larkin is a better shooter but he isn't as fast, as quick or as strong(Lawson was built for a small PG) as Lawson was coming out. Also Lawson was a much better finisher than Larkin. Larkin can't finish over length like Lawson can.
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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                            #223
                            Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
                            Isnt there a rumor Schroeder got a promise from a lotto team already? (maybe Jazz)
                            Maybe, but it could easily just be his agent trying to drum up more interest. If take a guy like Larkin at 15 and Schroeder goes 14, I'll lose my ****. At that point, you gotta jump over the Jazz if we want a PG.
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                            • redsrule
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #224
                              Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              As of right now probably so. He's played like a top 5 PG for most of this season.

                              But as far as coming in and as a rookie and having that immediate impact not really.

                              You just don't see those guys anymore, guys who come in and are basically All Stars from day 1.. Maybe LeBron and Melo are the most recent? Idk. Blake Griffin was great, but his rookie season was really his second year so he had that time to develop.

                              It just seems like those guys aren't out there as much as they used to be.. Anthony Davis was projected to be one of them, Greg Oden, but it didn't happen.
                              Injuries derailed Davis last year. When he was healthy you saw how good he really is/can be. Does making the all-star in your rookie year matter a ton anyway?
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                              • bigeastbumrush
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #225
                                Re: 2013 NBA Draft Discussion

                                Originally posted by sportsbuck
                                You are selling Noel mighty short, IMO.

                                He's one of the best shot blockers to come out in the past decade, and does a great job of getting on-ball steals and playing passing lanes. He's also very good at playing the PnR, and has elite lateral quickness to go along with his explosiveness, bounce, and length.

                                He's still very raw offensively, and I don't think he'll ever become a big-time scorer. Still though, he can finish very well at the rim and has at least shown a great willingness to improve his game. I think NBA coaching can only help him in that regard, and playing in the right system.

                                He definitely needs to add weight and in particular lower body strength, but he's only 18 years old so he's definitely capable of it.

                                I liken him to Joakim Noah. And I think that if you can get a player like that as your anchor defensively (Especially in the Bobcats case) then you go for him if there isn't a more elite player out there, which I don't see in this draft.
                                Nerlens isn't going to be able to get those blocks guarding guys straight up. He isn't going to have that strength to body a guy like that. I'm not sure how much weight he's actually going to be able to put on. He doesn't have the frame and broad shoulders like Anthony Davis does. And who knows what kind of improvement he'll have in his lower body over the course of his career. His legs are already rail thin.

                                I don't see the Noah comparison because Noah always struck me as a high level rebounder, not shot blocker.

                                And I wouldn't call Nerlens elite. Seems more like a complimentary guy.

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