McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

**jordan0386** · 01-27-2004, 02:59 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

a post nice he made it twice

**noa999** · 01-27-2004, 03:22 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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HMcCoy said:
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GeePee20 said:
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HMcCoy said:
Go, Mac Go!

He keeps launchin' em while his teammates gets colder and colder just standing around on offense, and the Cavs win.

T-Mac fans talk about how bad his team is, but Howard started off hot with 6 quick points early. Howard didn't get to SHOOT the ball again until midway through the 2nd. Good job Mack, you just completely shut out a hot teammate. Unless you can score 80+ pts per game, at some point you WILL NEED THOSE TEAMMATES!. When those treys stop falling, where will the offense come from?

<hr /></blockquote> You completely contradict yourself. Why should they feed Howard if he's hot but not T-Mac? He was 8 of 8 from downtown! I'll take a guy nailing threes left and right over Howard who gets a couple quick baskets. I just don't even know what else to say. You say McGrady is a ballhog when he's 8 of 8 for 3 yet you think it's such a crime Howard didn't get the ball because he was hot. McGrady was hotter, that's why he kept shooting and making them. You say it's wrong that they shut out Howard but you're saying that the Magic should have done the same to McGrady even though he was on fire. And it's a bit unfair to put the loss on T-Macs hands because he had to leave in the 3rd quarter.

Please lay off the haterade.

I thought this was a pretty simple concept, but let me explain...

Lets pretend I'm T-Mac. I see Howard hit a tough shot, so I get it to him again. He hits another nice J, so now he's in a little bit of a groove. Now, I (T-Mac)get a mismatch on a switch so I score. Then I come down and hit a trey. Then another one, so now we have TWO hot guys. I then draw and kick to Howard again and now that he's got a little momentum, he aggressively attacks the rim...scores and 1.

He gives a yell and he's hyped!

(pay attention now, this is the cool part) NOW THE CAVS HAVE TWO GUYS TO WORRY ABOUT INSTEAD OF ONE. NOW WHEN HOWARD GETS THE BALL, HE'S AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING TO SCORE AND THE DEFENSE HAS TO RESPECT HIM. NOW HE'S DRAWS THE D WHEN HE MAKES HIS MOVE. OMG GUESS WHAT? NOW GIRICEK IS WIDE FREAKING OPEN! BECAUSE NOW THE CAVS ARE SCRAMBLING.

Now, I hit another trey because I'm hot too, remember...I AM T-Mac after all...Now Giricek is getting better looks, Lue is getting better looks, Doleac gets a couple of easy buckets, everybody is energized and the DEFENSIVE intensity picks up. Jeez, why is 8 treys a record? Why do you think Bird didn't just fire three after three after three? Or Price? Or Reggie? Please believe, those guys could hit 10 3's in a half easily if they wanted to. Never did or even tried. Because, they UNDERSTOOD THE CONCEPT OF TEAM BASKETBALL. They trusted their teammates and those teammates flourished because of that trust. Its not that complicated. T-Mac, as talented as he is, still needs to learn how to get the best out of his team. Damn.

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You obviously need to watch more Orlando games. Oh wait.. you've probably seen um all, right?

**noa999** · 01-27-2004, 03:22 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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HMcCoy said:
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GeePee20 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
Go, Mac Go!

He keeps launchin' em while his teammates gets colder and colder just standing around on offense, and the Cavs win.

T-Mac fans talk about how bad his team is, but Howard started off hot with 6 quick points early. Howard didn't get to SHOOT the ball again until midway through the 2nd. Good job Mack, you just completely shut out a hot teammate. Unless you can score 80+ pts per game, at some point you WILL NEED THOSE TEAMMATES!. When those treys stop falling, where will the offense come from?

<hr /></blockquote> You completely contradict yourself. Why should they feed Howard if he's hot but not T-Mac? He was 8 of 8 from downtown! I'll take a guy nailing threes left and right over Howard who gets a couple quick baskets. I just don't even know what else to say. You say McGrady is a ballhog when he's 8 of 8 for 3 yet you think it's such a crime Howard didn't get the ball because he was hot. McGrady was hotter, that's why he kept shooting and making them. You say it's wrong that they shut out Howard but you're saying that the Magic should have done the same to McGrady even though he was on fire. And it's a bit unfair to put the loss on T-Macs hands because he had to leave in the 3rd quarter.

Please lay off the haterade.

I thought this was a pretty simple concept, but let me explain...

Lets pretend I'm T-Mac. I see Howard hit a tough shot, so I get it to him again. He hits another nice J, so now he's in a little bit of a groove. Now, I (T-Mac)get a mismatch on a switch so I score. Then I come down and hit a trey. Then another one, so now we have TWO hot guys. I then draw and kick to Howard again and now that he's got a little momentum, he aggressively attacks the rim...scores and 1.

He gives a yell and he's hyped!

(pay attention now, this is the cool part) NOW THE CAVS HAVE TWO GUYS TO WORRY ABOUT INSTEAD OF ONE. NOW WHEN HOWARD GETS THE BALL, HE'S AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING TO SCORE AND THE DEFENSE HAS TO RESPECT HIM. NOW HE'S DRAWS THE D WHEN HE MAKES HIS MOVE. OMG GUESS WHAT? NOW GIRICEK IS WIDE FREAKING OPEN! BECAUSE NOW THE CAVS ARE SCRAMBLING.

Now, I hit another trey because I'm hot too, remember...I AM T-Mac after all...Now Giricek is getting better looks, Lue is getting better looks, Doleac gets a couple of easy buckets, everybody is energized and the DEFENSIVE intensity picks up. Jeez, why is 8 treys a record? Why do you think Bird didn't just fire three after three after three? Or Price? Or Reggie? Please believe, those guys could hit 10 3's in a half easily if they wanted to. Never did or even tried. Because, they UNDERSTOOD THE CONCEPT OF TEAM BASKETBALL. They trusted their teammates and those teammates flourished because of that trust. Its not that complicated. T-Mac, as talented as he is, still needs to learn how to get the best out of his team. Damn.

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You obviously need to watch more Orlando games. Oh wait.. you've probably seen um all, right?

**noa999** · 01-27-2004, 03:22 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
GeePee20 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
Go, Mac Go!

He keeps launchin' em while his teammates gets colder and colder just standing around on offense, and the Cavs win.

T-Mac fans talk about how bad his team is, but Howard started off hot with 6 quick points early. Howard didn't get to SHOOT the ball again until midway through the 2nd. Good job Mack, you just completely shut out a hot teammate. Unless you can score 80+ pts per game, at some point you WILL NEED THOSE TEAMMATES!. When those treys stop falling, where will the offense come from?

<hr /></blockquote> You completely contradict yourself. Why should they feed Howard if he's hot but not T-Mac? He was 8 of 8 from downtown! I'll take a guy nailing threes left and right over Howard who gets a couple quick baskets. I just don't even know what else to say. You say McGrady is a ballhog when he's 8 of 8 for 3 yet you think it's such a crime Howard didn't get the ball because he was hot. McGrady was hotter, that's why he kept shooting and making them. You say it's wrong that they shut out Howard but you're saying that the Magic should have done the same to McGrady even though he was on fire. And it's a bit unfair to put the loss on T-Macs hands because he had to leave in the 3rd quarter.

Please lay off the haterade.

I thought this was a pretty simple concept, but let me explain...

Lets pretend I'm T-Mac. I see Howard hit a tough shot, so I get it to him again. He hits another nice J, so now he's in a little bit of a groove. Now, I (T-Mac)get a mismatch on a switch so I score. Then I come down and hit a trey. Then another one, so now we have TWO hot guys. I then draw and kick to Howard again and now that he's got a little momentum, he aggressively attacks the rim...scores and 1.

He gives a yell and he's hyped!

(pay attention now, this is the cool part) NOW THE CAVS HAVE TWO GUYS TO WORRY ABOUT INSTEAD OF ONE. NOW WHEN HOWARD GETS THE BALL, HE'S AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING TO SCORE AND THE DEFENSE HAS TO RESPECT HIM. NOW HE'S DRAWS THE D WHEN HE MAKES HIS MOVE. OMG GUESS WHAT? NOW GIRICEK IS WIDE FREAKING OPEN! BECAUSE NOW THE CAVS ARE SCRAMBLING.

Now, I hit another trey because I'm hot too, remember...I AM T-Mac after all...Now Giricek is getting better looks, Lue is getting better looks, Doleac gets a couple of easy buckets, everybody is energized and the DEFENSIVE intensity picks up. Jeez, why is 8 treys a record? Why do you think Bird didn't just fire three after three after three? Or Price? Or Reggie? Please believe, those guys could hit 10 3's in a half easily if they wanted to. Never did or even tried. Because, they UNDERSTOOD THE CONCEPT OF TEAM BASKETBALL. They trusted their teammates and those teammates flourished because of that trust. Its not that complicated. T-Mac, as talented as he is, still needs to learn how to get the best out of his team. Damn.

<hr /></blockquote>

You obviously need to watch more Orlando games. Oh wait.. you've probably seen um all, right?

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:23 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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If T-Mac intentionally tried to shut them out then we have a problem but if you've ever seen him play, he always tries to involve his teammates. It's their job to finish it when they have a chance.

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I agree I'd take the three ball over the 2 all day. It wasn't his fault they lost the game and he really didn't take an excessive amount of shots. Mac understands team ball, but his teammates don't always convert. I'd rather run my offense through my pn fire superstar than a guy like Howard who has his moments every now and then. If Mac was shooting the team out of the game then fine, but that just wasn't the case, and that is not how he always plays the game (jacking up 3's jus because). He's not Antoine Walker.

Truthfully, the guy gets crticized for everything. It's almost unfair, and to think the Magic would be a playoff contender if he shot less.

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:23 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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If T-Mac intentionally tried to shut them out then we have a problem but if you've ever seen him play, he always tries to involve his teammates. It's their job to finish it when they have a chance.

<hr /></blockquote>

I agree I'd take the three ball over the 2 all day. It wasn't his fault they lost the game and he really didn't take an excessive amount of shots. Mac understands team ball, but his teammates don't always convert. I'd rather run my offense through my pn fire superstar than a guy like Howard who has his moments every now and then. If Mac was shooting the team out of the game then fine, but that just wasn't the case, and that is not how he always plays the game (jacking up 3's jus because). He's not Antoine Walker.

Truthfully, the guy gets crticized for everything. It's almost unfair, and to think the Magic would be a playoff contender if he shot less.

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:23 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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If T-Mac intentionally tried to shut them out then we have a problem but if you've ever seen him play, he always tries to involve his teammates. It's their job to finish it when they have a chance.

<hr /></blockquote>

I agree I'd take the three ball over the 2 all day. It wasn't his fault they lost the game and he really didn't take an excessive amount of shots. Mac understands team ball, but his teammates don't always convert. I'd rather run my offense through my pn fire superstar than a guy like Howard who has his moments every now and then. If Mac was shooting the team out of the game then fine, but that just wasn't the case, and that is not how he always plays the game (jacking up 3's jus because). He's not Antoine Walker.

Truthfully, the guy gets crticized for everything. It's almost unfair, and to think the Magic would be a playoff contender if he shot less.

**HMcCoy** · 01-27-2004, 03:47 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

**HMcCoy** · 01-27-2004, 03:47 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

**HMcCoy** · 01-27-2004, 03:47 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:58 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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HMcCoy said:
I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

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Oh come on man. It's not that serious. Noone said he was perfect, but you are saying it's his fault they are losing, and he should've passed to Howard instead of shoot those threes.

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:58 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

<hr /></blockquote>

Oh come on man. It's not that serious. Noone said he was perfect, but you are saying it's his fault they are losing, and he should've passed to Howard instead of shoot those threes.

23 · 01-27-2004, 03:58 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
HMcCoy said:
I give up. T-Mac is God and however many shots he takes or how badly the team stinks, its never his fault. He's a top-notch defender and leader, but still completely hated by the media. There isn't a single iota of room for ANY kind of improvement.

Please enjoy the rest of his majesty's stellar contributions to the Orlando Magic W/L record. Peace

<hr /></blockquote>

Oh come on man. It's not that serious. Noone said he was perfect, but you are saying it's his fault they are losing, and he should've passed to Howard instead of shoot those threes.

**Admiral50** · 01-27-2004, 05:31 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

A few thoughts... he was 8-8 yet his team had a one or two point lead... I guess when you're hot, you're hot but T-Mac seems to have a lot of huge games in losses. Sure he doesn't have the best team, but ...

Rex Chapman once shot 10-10 three's for the Heat if I remember correctly

Everyone gets hot one time or another.

**Admiral50** · 01-27-2004, 05:31 AM

Re: McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

A few thoughts... he was 8-8 yet his team had a one or two point lead... I guess when you're hot, you're hot but T-Mac seems to have a lot of huge games in losses. Sure he doesn't have the best team, but ...

Rex Chapman once shot 10-10 three's for the Heat if I remember correctly

Everyone gets hot one time or another.

McGrady 8-8 3 pointers with 3 mins to go.......

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