Good McGrady article..

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:35 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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never said you couldnt say you like tmac, just dont jump on other people when they point out something. Then again, IDK. you and jordan sound like you have some history or something. Then I could understand you thinking he brought up the 19 just to spite you. In fact, that had nothing to do with this thread. But no, I saw objectivity from everyone in THIS THREAD. Like I said, maybe you already found out some of these guys to be haters, IDK.

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I was being sarcastic on purpose, but I guess I should be that way and agree with the haters instead of making my points. I don't intend to come off angry though. I'm not that kinda guy. This is how I really feel man. I like Mac. I like alot of players. You don't see me defending guys like KG here, because he don't have peopel starting bash em up threads about him. I don't see AI fans coming on here making threads like oh PP should've scored 30 and the team lost. In fact most of us sympathize with the guy and how Ainge has jacked the team up. Gabriel has done the same too, but you rarely hear his name in the whole mess. I just like basketball, I'm not tied to one player. I can continually give Kobe props for stepping up his game, and Carmello and LBJ, and KG, TD, etc.. for playing out of their minds. These guys are insane.

If you find other Laker fans calling so called Laker fans huggers, then you know It's not just me, and this isn't the first thread, trust me. I don't know what's up between you and JMood.

I'm not pulling these guys in this, but guys like Shakobe and D4K are true LA Lakers and Kobe fans. Some others too, but then there are some huggers that would be fine if they left it to being Kobe fans instead of starting the Him vs him post.

I'll try to watch myself from now on with respect to those guys, but I have opinions like all of you guys do.

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:37 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
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KDRE said:
Hey man, he's cocky, even when he said Kobe is a better player than him.

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I just question his leadership, and you have to when a team performs like the magic have this season. You know thats true.

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He's no MJ for sure. He calls out his teammates, and everyone says he's trashing them. He should just shut up, and not shoot. He should pass the ball. He's no Darrell Armstrong either. He's 24 and not where he should be. Somebody ought to smack the dude upside the head to wake him up.

Even when he hit those 8 3pointers in a row someone said, he should've passed the ball to Juwan Howard. Man why couldn't I think of that.

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more needless sarcasm.

19 in a row means obvious leadership problems. I'll leave it at that. all that stuff you talking about, like passing to juwon (another ONE GAME POINT) has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Calling out teammates doesnt equal leadership. Mcgrady is cocky. You telling me MAC is not cocky in the least just because he said kobe was better? No, but I'd like to see your definition of cocky.

look at this, you quote me but you dont even make a serious comment on what I said you go on some rant. one thing that wasnt sarcasm is that hes no MJ, and thats because No one is MJ.

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Sorry BigMike, he's not a matured leader. You're right. How many game points should I bring up for you to be satisfied though, and I'm not ranting man. It's true he's no MJ, and DA was the team leader before Gabriel let him go for nothing. Not even a pea.

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:37 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
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KDRE said:
Hey man, he's cocky, even when he said Kobe is a better player than him.

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I just question his leadership, and you have to when a team performs like the magic have this season. You know thats true.

<hr /></blockquote>

He's no MJ for sure. He calls out his teammates, and everyone says he's trashing them. He should just shut up, and not shoot. He should pass the ball. He's no Darrell Armstrong either. He's 24 and not where he should be. Somebody ought to smack the dude upside the head to wake him up.

Even when he hit those 8 3pointers in a row someone said, he should've passed the ball to Juwan Howard. Man why couldn't I think of that.

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more needless sarcasm.

19 in a row means obvious leadership problems. I'll leave it at that. all that stuff you talking about, like passing to juwon (another ONE GAME POINT) has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Calling out teammates doesnt equal leadership. Mcgrady is cocky. You telling me MAC is not cocky in the least just because he said kobe was better? No, but I'd like to see your definition of cocky.

look at this, you quote me but you dont even make a serious comment on what I said you go on some rant. one thing that wasnt sarcasm is that hes no MJ, and thats because No one is MJ.

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Sorry BigMike, he's not a matured leader. You're right. How many game points should I bring up for you to be satisfied though, and I'm not ranting man. It's true he's no MJ, and DA was the team leader before Gabriel let him go for nothing. Not even a pea.

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:37 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
KDRE said:
Hey man, he's cocky, even when he said Kobe is a better player than him.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I just question his leadership, and you have to when a team performs like the magic have this season. You know thats true.

<hr /></blockquote>

He's no MJ for sure. He calls out his teammates, and everyone says he's trashing them. He should just shut up, and not shoot. He should pass the ball. He's no Darrell Armstrong either. He's 24 and not where he should be. Somebody ought to smack the dude upside the head to wake him up.

Even when he hit those 8 3pointers in a row someone said, he should've passed the ball to Juwan Howard. Man why couldn't I think of that.

<hr /></blockquote>

more needless sarcasm.

19 in a row means obvious leadership problems. I'll leave it at that. all that stuff you talking about, like passing to juwon (another ONE GAME POINT) has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Calling out teammates doesnt equal leadership. Mcgrady is cocky. You telling me MAC is not cocky in the least just because he said kobe was better? No, but I'd like to see your definition of cocky.

look at this, you quote me but you dont even make a serious comment on what I said you go on some rant. one thing that wasnt sarcasm is that hes no MJ, and thats because No one is MJ.

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Sorry BigMike, he's not a matured leader. You're right. How many game points should I bring up for you to be satisfied though, and I'm not ranting man. It's true he's no MJ, and DA was the team leader before Gabriel let him go for nothing. Not even a pea.

**dmx806** · 03-02-2004, 10:38 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

**dmx806** · 03-02-2004, 10:38 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

**dmx806** · 03-02-2004, 10:38 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:40 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:42 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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dmx806 said:
I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

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true, tmac has no ricky, but the hawks comparison is a stretch.

BTW, sorry KDRE for piggy backing everyone of your posts lol but its just that the game points you brought up were really tired and I agreed there was no way you could blame him for thos games.

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:42 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dmx806 said:
I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

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true, tmac has no ricky, but the hawks comparison is a stretch.

BTW, sorry KDRE for piggy backing everyone of your posts lol but its just that the game points you brought up were really tired and I agreed there was no way you could blame him for thos games.

**Tha_Kid** · 03-02-2004, 10:42 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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dmx806 said:
I am not a kobe or a t-mac fan but i have to respond to the paul peirce comment The boston celtics are a much better team than the Magics. In Ricky davis The celtics has another explosive player that could drop thirty every night along side pierce. Tracy doesn't have a scorer on his team that is as talented. Juwan howard is on the downside of his carreer so please don't say him. Paul pierce is an unbelievable player with a good team not a great one. The only player that has done much with less is Tracy and Allen iverson. T-mac is a great player that is getting tired of covering for the mediocre talent that is in Orlando. It is part of T-macs fault that they lost 19 in a row but it's not for the lack of trying it is because he is part of the team so it is part of his fault. The losing streak doesn't taint his superstar rating in my book because i saw about ten of the games during the streak and he was working very hard to score, to rebound, to get his fellow teammates to step up, but he cant. Much is made out of Jordan carrying the bulls, making the bulls better,but i think it was Pippen, and Horace that made that team better not him. I believe Jordan would still be jordan without them but jordan wouldn't be champion Jordan without them.I am no way shape or form taking anything away from the great one. He is the greatest player to every lace them up no doubt but he would have never won any championships without his supporting cast and one of the fifty greatest players in Scottie. T-mac doesn't have that but yet the past few years he led the Magic to the playoffs, comming within a game of defeating Detroit in last year's playoffs judge him on that. his team is nowhere near as good as it was last year. His personal life is hell not just the close people that he lost but also being a new dad, just got married and his age 24. He has had alot to deal with but he still plays hard every night. Give credit where credit is due he is a super player on a super bad team. His team in my eyes is almost as bad as the Hawks.

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true, tmac has no ricky, but the hawks comparison is a stretch.

BTW, sorry KDRE for piggy backing everyone of your posts lol but its just that the game points you brought up were really tired and I agreed there was no way you could blame him for thos games.

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

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I forgot about the ESPN bball thing.

I'm cool with everyone as far as I'm concerned. I was actually practicing changing the way I post for anonymous posters here to gear myself to agree with them in a funny way so I don't seem to be angry when I'm not.

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

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I forgot about the ESPN bball thing.

I'm cool with everyone as far as I'm concerned. I was actually practicing changing the way I post for anonymous posters here to gear myself to agree with them in a funny way so I don't seem to be angry when I'm not.

Good McGrady article..

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