Good McGrady article..

23 · 03-02-2004, 10:43 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

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I forgot about the ESPN bball thing.

I'm cool with everyone as far as I'm concerned. I was actually practicing changing the way I post for anonymous posters here to gear myself to agree with them in a funny way so I don't seem to be angry when I'm not.

**jmood88** · 03-02-2004, 10:50 PM

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

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Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

**jmood88** · 03-02-2004, 10:50 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

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Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

**jmood88** · 03-02-2004, 10:50 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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BigMike said:
I see. I feel the same way you do about those players and what your saying. As far as me and jmood, theres nothing really, we just go back to the ESPN NBA Basketball forum and I cant seem to shake his old image of post whore out my mind

. I guess I was out of line telling you to hold back your opinions, it just that pure sarcasm is frustrating when you are trying to have a serious conversation.

buddies??? j/k

<hr /></blockquote>

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

**ShaKobe** · 03-03-2004, 12:28 PM

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KDRE said:
I'm not pulling these guys in this, but guys like Shakobe and D4K are true LA Lakers and Kobe fans. Some others too, but then there are some huggers that would be fine if they left it to being Kobe fans instead of starting the Him vs him post.

I'll try to watch myself from now on with respect to those guys, but I have opinions like all of you guys do.

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Why you bringing me into this? I'm not involved.

But anyhow, here's what I think. TMac is a great player. He has extraordinary talents that make it even more amazing because of the hardships he has gone thru. Same with Kobe in the last several games, even tho he's going to court and all that crap.

And even tho I think the world of TMac, the blame for the losses lie squarely on his shoulders, just like the wins do. The leader of the team, takes all the blame. Whether it be good or bad, it's on them. It's always like that. The captains have the responsibility to lead the team. Now, don't get me wrong, the team is just horrible. They have too many same pieces (Howard/Gooden) and not enough other pieces, PG and C. That's not TMac's fault at all. That's just upper management and bad decisions.

But it is on him when they win/lose.

Just like it's on TD when they win/lose, or KG, or Shaq/Kobe, or Vince, or AI, or PP, or all the other superstars for their team.

The only team that doesn't do that is Memphis. They rock by the way. Fun group of guys to watch.

**ShaKobe** · 03-03-2004, 12:28 PM

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KDRE said:
I'm not pulling these guys in this, but guys like Shakobe and D4K are true LA Lakers and Kobe fans. Some others too, but then there are some huggers that would be fine if they left it to being Kobe fans instead of starting the Him vs him post.

I'll try to watch myself from now on with respect to those guys, but I have opinions like all of you guys do.

<hr /></blockquote>

Why you bringing me into this? I'm not involved.

But anyhow, here's what I think. TMac is a great player. He has extraordinary talents that make it even more amazing because of the hardships he has gone thru. Same with Kobe in the last several games, even tho he's going to court and all that crap.

And even tho I think the world of TMac, the blame for the losses lie squarely on his shoulders, just like the wins do. The leader of the team, takes all the blame. Whether it be good or bad, it's on them. It's always like that. The captains have the responsibility to lead the team. Now, don't get me wrong, the team is just horrible. They have too many same pieces (Howard/Gooden) and not enough other pieces, PG and C. That's not TMac's fault at all. That's just upper management and bad decisions.

But it is on him when they win/lose.

Just like it's on TD when they win/lose, or KG, or Shaq/Kobe, or Vince, or AI, or PP, or all the other superstars for their team.

The only team that doesn't do that is Memphis. They rock by the way. Fun group of guys to watch.

**ShaKobe** · 03-03-2004, 12:28 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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KDRE said:
I'm not pulling these guys in this, but guys like Shakobe and D4K are true LA Lakers and Kobe fans. Some others too, but then there are some huggers that would be fine if they left it to being Kobe fans instead of starting the Him vs him post.

I'll try to watch myself from now on with respect to those guys, but I have opinions like all of you guys do.

<hr /></blockquote>

Why you bringing me into this? I'm not involved.

But anyhow, here's what I think. TMac is a great player. He has extraordinary talents that make it even more amazing because of the hardships he has gone thru. Same with Kobe in the last several games, even tho he's going to court and all that crap.

And even tho I think the world of TMac, the blame for the losses lie squarely on his shoulders, just like the wins do. The leader of the team, takes all the blame. Whether it be good or bad, it's on them. It's always like that. The captains have the responsibility to lead the team. Now, don't get me wrong, the team is just horrible. They have too many same pieces (Howard/Gooden) and not enough other pieces, PG and C. That's not TMac's fault at all. That's just upper management and bad decisions.

But it is on him when they win/lose.

Just like it's on TD when they win/lose, or KG, or Shaq/Kobe, or Vince, or AI, or PP, or all the other superstars for their team.

The only team that doesn't do that is Memphis. They rock by the way. Fun group of guys to watch.

23 · 03-03-2004, 01:12 PM

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Last year, he wasn't the leader, just the best player. This year, he is captain, but I don't think he knows how to be a leader yet. I agree with you Shakobe.

23 · 03-03-2004, 01:12 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

Last year, he wasn't the leader, just the best player. This year, he is captain, but I don't think he knows how to be a leader yet. I agree with you Shakobe.

23 · 03-03-2004, 01:12 PM

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Last year, he wasn't the leader, just the best player. This year, he is captain, but I don't think he knows how to be a leader yet. I agree with you Shakobe.

**Court_vision** · 03-03-2004, 02:59 PM

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jmood88 said:

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

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Yeah...you know ESPN truely sux when even the Mood man has given up on it

**Court_vision** · 03-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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jmood88 said:

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...you know ESPN truely sux when even the Mood man has given up on it

**Court_vision** · 03-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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jmood88 said:

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...you know ESPN truely sux when even the Mood man has given up on it

**Tha_Kid** · 03-03-2004, 03:38 PM

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monkey said:
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jmood88 said:

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...you know ESPN truely sux when even the Mood man has given up on it

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lol true true

cant help but hope for the best next year tho....

**Tha_Kid** · 03-03-2004, 03:38 PM

Re: Good McGrady article..

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monkey said:
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jmood88 said:

Wow, the old espn nba forum. I haven't posted anything more than like a sentence in there for a while.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yeah...you know ESPN truely sux when even the Mood man has given up on it

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lol true true

cant help but hope for the best next year tho....

Good McGrady article..

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