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  • KG
    Welcome Back
    • Sep 2005
    • 17583

    #931
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Brand already had a much more polished post game in college, he already had counters and touch around the bucket. His footwork and feel for the game was apparent. He was destined to become a force in the NBA before the injuries.

    Randle is simply not touted in that regard and I really don't think they have the same approach to how they operate. Randle depends on his physicality and physical tools while Brand had the mental capacity to dominate his opponents in addition to his freakish wingspan and motor.
    Agreed. Brand had ridiculously soft hands and was just a machine. He stood out on a very talented Dook team. I think Randle is a lot more athletic than Zbo but doesn't have his feathery touch around the rim. I like Randle though. I can see him being a much better Pro since teams won't stack the paint vs him like they do now.
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    • phenom1990
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 4789

      #932
      Re: 2014 Draft Class

      I don't agree with the Brand comparisons. I wasn't old enough to remember Antonio McDyess in college; so how do others think Randle compares to him or even a Larry Johnson?
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      • redsrule
        All Star
        • Apr 2010
        • 9396

        #933
        Re: 2014 Draft Class

        Tyler Ennis just declared. I think he's going to be a bust in the NBA, especially if he's taken with a lottery pick. He is awful defensively and was "hidden" in the zone at Syracuse. That isn't going to happen in the NBA.
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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #934
          Re: 2014 Draft Class

          Originally posted by redsrule
          Tyler Ennis just declared. I think he's going to be a bust in the NBA, especially if he's taken with a lottery pick. He is awful defensively and was "hidden" in the zone at Syracuse. That isn't going to happen in the NBA.

          He's a smart player though, I think he could make a pretty solid back up guard for someone.. I probably wouldn't take him in the lottery.. But for a team like Phoenix who may come close to being a lottery team he would be a pretty good fit. Two way sub for Dragic or Bledsoe.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #935
            Re: 2014 Draft Class

            Yeah, I don't see Ennis being more than a back up but who knows. Maybe he'll turn into something a few years in.
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            • JODYE
              JB4MVP
              • May 2012
              • 4834

              #936
              Re: 2014 Draft Class

              Embiid is stating he hasn't made any decision on the NBA yet. Where did someone hear he had declared?
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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #937
                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                Originally posted by 13
                Embiid is stating he hasn't made any decision on the NBA yet. Where did someone hear he had declared?
                It was reported by Yahoo I believe. He'll declare when it's all said and done anyways lol.

                Re: Ennis... yeah, I just don't see him being a productive starter in the NBA. Could carve out a niche as a backup. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in Europe within a 3 or 4 years.
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                • redsrule
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9396

                  #938
                  Re: 2014 Draft Class

                  Andrew Harrison finally playing more like a point guard & I think he's going to be gone this year. I'd rather have him than Ennis in the NBA. He's not great defensively either, but I think he'll continue to improve there.
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                  • Melbournelad
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1559

                    #939
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    Originally posted by redsrule
                    Andrew Harrison finally playing more like a point guard & I think he's going to be gone this year. I'd rather have him than Ennis in the NBA. He's not great defensively either, but I think he'll continue to improve there.
                    Do you think either of the Harrison twins have the ability to become solid starters on a playoff team (whether that be at PG or SG)?

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #940
                      Re: 2014 Draft Class

                      Originally posted by redsrule
                      Andrew Harrison finally playing more like a point guard & I think he's going to be gone this year. I'd rather have him than Ennis in the NBA. He's not great defensively either, but I think he'll continue to improve there.

                      I'd probably rather take a chance on Harrison developing too, but I think I read that neither of the Harrisons are likely to be taken in the 1st round this year. Amazing how far they dropped in one year.
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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #941
                        Re: 2014 Draft Class

                        I'll stick to what I said before and say that I think the Harrison twins both look like the type of players who could end up better pros than they were college players.

                        But I strongly feel Andrew should be drafted as a shooting guard. I just don't feel he's a NBA point guard, and those quicker players will give him problems at both ends.

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                        • KG
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #942
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          Originally posted by redsrule
                          Andrew Harrison finally playing more like a point guard & I think he's going to be gone this year. I'd rather have him than Ennis in the NBA. He's not great defensively either, but I think he'll continue to improve there.

                          I was really really impressed by Andrew last night. I thought he handled the pressure extremely well and was great at picking his spots. If he improves that jumper (which he should because his form is sound) he could be a very solid combo guard in the league. A guy who can give you coverage at both spots.

                          Absolutely love Randle's motor. He showed me some pretty good passing ability too last night.


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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #943
                            Re: 2014 Draft Class

                            I change my mind often on Randle. He's so raw. His motor and knack for getting rebounds impresses me. His fundamentals worry me. Every time he drives I cringe, and last night he was fumbling the ball like crazy. He doesn't have a back to the bucket game that I've seen nor a jump shot. He lacks refinement.

                            I feel like he can have a similar impact of Andre Drummond just by his physical tools alone and instincts to rebound.

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                            • redsrule
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9396

                              #944
                              Re: 2014 Draft Class

                              Originally posted by Melbournelad
                              Do you think either of the Harrison twins have the ability to become solid starters on a playoff team (whether that be at PG or SG)?
                              Andrew yes, Aaron no. I do think both have productive careers though.
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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #945
                                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                I change my mind often on Randle. He's so raw. His motor and knack for getting rebounds impresses me. His fundamentals worry me. Every time he drives I cringe, and last night he was fumbling the ball like crazy. He doesn't have a back to the bucket game that I've seen nor a jump shot. He lacks refinement.



                                I feel like he can have a similar impact of Andre Drummond just by his physical tools alone and instincts to rebound.

                                Exactly, and even when he does score I'd say a good chunk, 60%-70% of his buckets come off him following up a shot he already missed.. Even when he gets close he just lacks the touch to finish first time around.

                                And for lots of the tournament he's been somewhat of a "trash man" in their offense, scoring lots of his points after grabbing an offensive rebound.

                                But he's the most physically ready player for the league in this draft. I could justify him going anywhere from 1st to 7th or 8th depending on what the team needs are coming into the draft.

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